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shimon
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(10-12-2017, 04:01 PM)
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Originally Posted by Brerlappin

I wonder how that dude who got a Lawbreakers tattoo feels right about now

Someone got a tattoo like that? Oh man...
GRIMREEFZ
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(10-12-2017, 04:01 PM)
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"Lawbreakers will be free to play. Just kidding"
"Lawbreakers will be PC exclusive BC controllers suck and console arent good enough. Just kidding."
Probably their inconsistent promoting & the fact that the game has a steep learning curve.
coolstones
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(10-12-2017, 04:01 PM)
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That's pretty sad because the gameplay looked fun actually. I just spend too much time in other multiplayer only games, which has been infuriating me lately.
RMI
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(10-12-2017, 04:02 PM)

Originally Posted by strafer

Am I missing something, why are people suddenly hating on Cliffyb? I thought people loved him.

he is an ass to people online on a regular basis and seems to have a bit of an ego, so there is an understandable amount of schadenfreude here.

The guy is a talented game designer for sure, and this looked like a cool game. It just seems like it came out a little too late once most of the community for this type of thing had already committed to other games and weren't interested in switching.

I hope he does something like GoW again. Not necessarily a 3rd person shooter, but something that becomes the benchmark by which the genre is judged again.
‹bermatik
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(10-12-2017, 04:02 PM)
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This is just atrociously bad. I can think of Wii games that had a higher online player count a year after release.
Budi
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(10-12-2017, 04:03 PM)
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Originally Posted by RMI

he is an ass to people online on a regular basis and seems to have a bit of an ego, so there is an understandable amount of schadenfreude here.

If there is one thing us gamers take a stand against, it's being an ass online. Nothing but love and respect in Neogaf to developers and fellow gamers. Not to mention something like Twitch and Youtube, welcoming and supportive places for discussion and to share our hobby.
Mass Effect
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(10-12-2017, 04:04 PM)
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The original Star Wars Battlefront 2 has more players than Lawbreakers.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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(10-12-2017, 04:06 PM)
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Originally Posted by Mass Effect

The original Star Wars Battlefront 2 has more players than Lawbreakers.

Battlebore has more players than Lawbreakers.
Nick_C
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(10-12-2017, 04:06 PM)
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Originally Posted by Oachkatzlschwoaf

hella painful

Duxxy3
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(10-12-2017, 04:06 PM)
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Originally Posted by Adam_802

poor Cliffy, shoulda stuck with Epic or Gears

I still there should be a second Gears series. I initially didn't like Judgment, but it grew on me.
friskykillface
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(10-12-2017, 04:07 PM)
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Ouch

I'll wait til it's ftp tbh
Bog
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(10-12-2017, 04:09 PM)
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And the Limited Run Games Lawbreakers CEs just showed up at their offices. Oof.
Castef
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(10-12-2017, 04:10 PM)
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Originally Posted by HamsterExAstris

It was MP-only.

Just like Overwatch and Playerunknown's Battlegrounds, you know...

"It is just multiplayer" is no longer an excuse for non selling well since like 2010...

I guess also Titanfall and Titalfall 2 demonstrated this.

The issues were others, like lack of promotion, not-so-stellar design, wrong choice of platforms and more.
Drencrom
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(10-12-2017, 04:11 PM)
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Originally Posted by statham

he made a dumb move. He made Gears of freakin War, most of his fans are still on Xbox, makes it PC/PS4 exclusive.

No XB1 version is the reason why no one plays this game on PC? lol

Lots of older Gears fans have a PC or PS4 besides XB1, saying none of Cliffy's fans bought the game simply because it wasn't released on Xbox is kinda silly.
Gaardus
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(10-12-2017, 04:12 PM)
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Originally Posted by Bog

And the Limited Run Games Lawbreakers CEs just showed up at their offices. Oof.

Oh my god. This game is going to be literally unplayable by the time it reaches customers' hands.
CHC
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(10-12-2017, 04:12 PM)
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Originally Posted by Brerlappin

I wonder how that dude who got a Lawbreakers tattoo feels right about now

Probably very unique.
Narpas Sword0
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(10-12-2017, 04:12 PM)

Originally Posted by Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew

Battlebore has more players than Lawbreakers.

There are more people playing video games in my house than Lawbreakers
ridley182
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(10-12-2017, 04:12 PM)

Originally Posted by brokenbeans

I feel bad for the team but not Cliffy.

Yup.
Voidwolf
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(10-12-2017, 04:13 PM)
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I thought the open beta was pretty terrible. Just doesn't seem like a good or fun game by any means.
jg4xchamp
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(10-12-2017, 04:14 PM)
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Itís a shame since the game is genuinely good. Those zero G fights on some maps were some of the best gameplay moments of the year for me. Oh well on to the next mp game that will be fun for a week before it dies.
Z3M0G
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(10-12-2017, 04:16 PM)
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I simply find the game visually unappealing.. boring art style. It kept me from even wanting to learn more about how it plays, etc.
Barrel Cannon
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(10-12-2017, 04:18 PM)
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Well looks I was wrong. RIP Lawbreakers it seems. Don't know how they can come back from this. Shame it was damn good too
kewlmyc
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(10-12-2017, 04:20 PM)
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Originally Posted by HamsterExAstris

It was MP-only.

Which means nothing with PUBG's 15 million, and other multiplayer only games doing gangbusters.
grandwizard
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(10-12-2017, 04:21 PM)
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Originally Posted by Barrel Cannon

Well looks I was wrong. RIP Lawbreakers it seems. Don't know how they can come back from this. Shame it was damn good too

I agree, there isn't anything they can do at this point to save the game. Even going F2P isn't going to make the game more friendly to new people and have them stick around. I know a lot of people are having fun at the news because of Cliffy B being a douche but I find it sad because it was a genuinely good game that scratched an itch for an old school shooter fan like me and it's failure is just more proof that the industry and it's players have moved on.
Serious Sam
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(10-12-2017, 04:21 PM)
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F2P won't save this game, nothing will. Assuming F2P does happen, player count will go up to about 1000-2000 and then down to 10 in a couple of weeks.
swarley64
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(10-12-2017, 04:24 PM)
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Castef
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(10-12-2017, 04:27 PM)
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Originally Posted by RooMHM

Looked too fast for the majority of today's players.

I don't think Overwatch si THAT too much slower, actually.
d9b
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(10-12-2017, 04:27 PM)
Calfirma
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(10-12-2017, 04:27 PM)
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Originally Posted by HamsterExAstris

It was MP-only.

Say hello to Overwatch
amdb00mer
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(10-12-2017, 04:28 PM)
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Originally Posted by Drencrom

No XB1 version is the reason why no one plays this game on PC? lol

Lots of older Gears fans have a PC or PS4 besides XB1, saying none of Cliffy's fans bought the game simply because it wasn't released on Xbox is kinda silly.

I agree, but releasing it on X1 would have helped. Not sure if it would have been enough to save it though. Like I said I never have issues playing on my PS4, but then again I do always seem to play with the same people. I would have preferred it on X1 as that is where all my friends game. I don't think the game is a permanent exclusive either. I think it is timed and we may still see it on X1 at some point. Especially if it goes full on Free to Play next year.
Randomizer
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(10-12-2017, 04:29 PM)
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Wow that's really sad for the developers. Not my type of game but looks very polished and solid. Mechanical more interesting than others in the genre too.
Exile20
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(10-12-2017, 04:29 PM)
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Originally Posted by jg4xchamp

Itís a shame since the game is genuinely good. Those zero G fights on some maps were some of the best gameplay moments of the year for me. Oh well on to the next mp game that will be fun for a week before it dies.

What are you talking about? This game started out with an extremely bad player count. There were a lot of mis-step before the game was even released.
Shil Pencer
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(10-12-2017, 04:34 PM)
The marketing for this game was bad, not being on xbox was bad, the attitude of cliff was bad....everything except the game itself was bad
mrlion
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(10-12-2017, 04:36 PM)
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Originally Posted by jsnepo

The private server of Metal Gear Online for PS2 has more people playing.

There's a private server for MGO?
WHM-6R
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(10-12-2017, 04:36 PM)
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Originally Posted by Blam

What happened?.

PUBG for one.
Tough market.
People are sheep.
When the story became how many weren't playing it was already all over and this is just beating a dead horse.

If only there was a platform it could've been released on that is largely said to be starving for games and had a player base that is largely said to only like shooters...
Yohane
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(10-12-2017, 04:38 PM)
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at the end of the day,10 people itís better than nothing
Gator86
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(10-12-2017, 04:38 PM)
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Originally Posted by Serious Sam

F2P won't save this game, nothing will. Assuming F2P does happen, player count will go up to about 1000-2000 and then down to 10 in a couple of weeks.

Basically. I think they maybe had a small window near launch to try a big pivot, but that window is absolutely shut now with stuff like Fortnite BR free everywhere, the fall release calendar, DLC drops for the big MP titles, etc. It's a wrap.

Spending even another dime on this game seems more like wishful thinking and sunk cost reasoning for the devs.
Ahasverus
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(10-12-2017, 04:39 PM)
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Was the market really hungry for another quirky multiplayer shooter? I think not.
ViciousDS
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(10-12-2017, 04:40 PM)

Originally Posted by Yohane

at the end of the day,10 people it’s better than nothing

its getting close to those two guys who bought call of duty on the windows store lol


thankfully they got refunded
TheSpoiler
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(10-12-2017, 04:40 PM)
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Fake news there are 34 people online
Marcel
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(10-12-2017, 04:40 PM)
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Originally Posted by Ahasverus

Was the market really hungry for another quirky multiplayer shooter? I think not.

They might have been if the LawBreakers developer has stuck to its guns on F2P and not listened to fans that don't know jack shit about selling a game.
Formosa
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(10-12-2017, 04:41 PM)

Originally Posted by St3v3

PUBG happened, and there's just so many other good games out ATM.

you mean overwatch lol
_Legacy_
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(10-12-2017, 04:42 PM)
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Should have released as ftp and on the XOXO or whatever Cliffy calls it these days.

The game did look interesting, I just didn't care enough to buy it or even play the demo. RIP Lawbreakers, dead in the space of two months.
dawgparty
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(10-12-2017, 04:42 PM)
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Originally Posted by jsnepo

The private server of Metal Gear Online for PS2 has more people playing.

I actually want to know more about this. I just wanna watch...
Papacheeks
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(10-12-2017, 04:43 PM)
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Law-breakers.......breaking the player count one law at a time!

Originally Posted by _Legacy_

Should have released as ftp and on the XOXO or whatever Cliffy calls it these days.

The game did look interesting, I just didn't care enough to buy it or even play the demo. RIP Lawbreakers, dead in the space of two months.

Funny thing this game started as a F2P game when it was first announced.
Blam
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(10-12-2017, 04:47 PM)
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Originally Posted by Papacheeks

Law-breakers.......breaking the player count one law at a time!



Funny thing this game started as a F2P game when it was first announced.

and what a bad turn that was.
Castef
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(10-12-2017, 04:48 PM)
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Originally Posted by Drencrom

No XB1 version is the reason why no one plays this game on PC? lol

No, but I guess releasing it on XB1 would a bit wiser.

Cliffy B worked a lot on the console and he actually created some kind of fan base, while he is basically no one for a big chunk of the PS4 base.

Also, on PS4 there are more similar games in comparison to XB1 (for instance, Paragon is on PS4 and PC and not on XB1).

They could have worked with Microsoft to push the "return of the creator of Gears of War" and create a bit of sensation. Most probably it could have worked better than launching on PS4 with Sony not very interested in pushing the game (their attitude towards indie games is clearly changed, as you may have noticed).

So yes, launching it also on XB1 would have helped, for several reasons.
Forerunner
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(10-12-2017, 04:49 PM)
Yeah, itís pretty much dead now (PC). I wonder how the PS4 numbers are doing. Iím glad I got to play it when it first was released because itís a legitimately fun game. However, once Quake Champions came to Steam, I dropped it completely.

Hopefully Boss key can rebound from this.
Weston
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(10-12-2017, 04:50 PM)
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I've had a ton of fun with Lawbreakers, but I haven't played in a couple weeks. I've just been playing other games. I didn't like the health changes either. I also don't know why they're pushing out leagues now. I get that people want them but it doesn't make sense given the population. It truly is an excellent game though. It's sad to see it doing so poorly. I've played well over 500 matches and I'll be back when they release the last class.


I love Raiders of the Broken Planet and it's struggling too. It's only been out a few weeks. Another niche title overlooked in a year of great games.
Marcel
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(10-12-2017, 04:52 PM)
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Originally Posted by Weston

I've had a ton of fun with Lawbreakers, but I haven't played in a couple weeks. I've just been playing other games. I didn't like the health changes either. I also don't know why they're pushing out leagues now. I get that people want them but it doesn't make sense given the population. It truly is an excellent game though. It's sad to see it doing so poorly. I've played well over 500 matches and I'll be back when they release the last class.


I love Raiders of the Broken Planet and it's struggling too. It's only been out a few weeks. Another niche title overlooked in a year of great games.

Leagues? How will that work with a peak of below 100 people?

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