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Nyoro SF · Oct 28, 2015

I played through FC once while playing at my own pace, then I replayed it for the 100%. I plan on doing the same with SC.

Mostly because I don't like going through RPGs with a guide for the first time; makes them feel like work instead of fun and I don't want to turn an enjoyable game like this into too much work where I'm constantly checking multiple lists, even on my FC replay it was kind of stressful, don't want to imagine what it would be like doing that for a first-run SC.

Dragoon En Regalia · Oct 28, 2015

SC gives you more incentive for a replay, too, because you can partner with either Agate or Scherazard for early-game and get different sets of dialogue as a result. Right now I'm going with Agate to preserve the male/female pairing (Joshua/Estelle), but apparently there's gender balance to consider for equipment and battle strats.

Acosta · Oct 28, 2015

I still can't believe it...

Thanks Xseed, thank you SpaceDrake, thank you Sara. I have no time to play it now but I'm there day one, sales be damned.

krYlon · Oct 28, 2015

Yeah a big congratulations to XSEED and everyone involved. You got there in the end!

Famassu · Oct 28, 2015

The Illiterati said:
If it's even 10% off I'll buy it. Otherwise, might as well wait until I'll actually have time to play it. Not until after Fallout 4, that's for sure.

You can buy & play Fallout 4 later when mods & at least a few patches have made the game worthwhile to play instead of Bethesda's usual vanilla-lameness.

Chrom · Oct 28, 2015

Is Nightmare Mode available from the start or does the game need to be beaten first to unlock it?

Durante · Oct 28, 2015

Nyoro SF said:
I played through FC once while playing at my own pace, then I replayed it for the 100%. I plan on doing the same with SC.

Mostly because I don't like going through RPGs with a guide for the first time; makes them feel like work instead of fun and I don't want to turn an enjoyable game like this into too much work where I'm constantly checking multiple lists, even on my FC replay it was kind of stressful, don't want to imagine what it would be like doing that for a first-run SC.

That's why I normally dislike design in JRPG which has too many time-limited missables.

Basileus777 · Oct 28, 2015

Durante said:
That's why I normally dislike design in JRPG which has too many time-limited missables.

Is this game just as bad with this as FC?

Aeana · Oct 28, 2015

Basileus777 said:
Is this game just as bad with this as FC?

All of the games in this series are like that if you want to get absolutely everything. They all have hidden quests that you'll only ever uncover by talking to NPCs (aren't listed on the board), all have books to collect, etc. Although I think FC and SC are the worst about having to go to an extremely out of the way place to get a book or a hidden quest... though I can think of one particularly dumb case in Trails of Cold Steel.

jonjonaug · Oct 28, 2015

Dice// said:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/psp/933329-the-legend-of-heroes-trails-in-the-sky/faqs/62082
So good. Literally, everything you need.

This is for FC, pretty sure they meant SC.

The Illiterati · Oct 28, 2015

Famassu said:
You can buy & play Fallout 4 later when mods & at least a few patches have made the game worthwhile to play instead of Bethesda's usual vanilla-lameness.

To each his own, I've played every Fallout near release, mod free, no problems yet. I enjoyed FC, but I am hyped for F4 at the moment.

Eusis · Oct 28, 2015

Nyoro SF said:
I played through FC once while playing at my own pace, then I replayed it for the 100%. I plan on doing the same with SC.

Mostly because I don't like going through RPGs with a guide for the first time; makes them feel like work instead of fun and I don't want to turn an enjoyable game like this into too much work where I'm constantly checking multiple lists, even on my FC replay it was kind of stressful, don't want to imagine what it would be like doing that for a first-run SC.

It's why I won't care (much) for SC. FC was for preparation to SC in case I wouldn't/couldn't replay, but SC may as well just ENJOY it.

Finalow · Oct 28, 2015

Dragoon En Regalia said:
- (you need it for

Lorence

specifically) -

eh, that fight was legit bullshit on nightmare.

I couldn't die, his damage wasn't high at all (pretty sure some random special ops soldiers with the halberd did way more) even without kaempfer, but HE couldn't die either, that is what was annoying for me. 70% HP left? Np, spamming tearal and recovering 1800HP + double earth guard, and again, he's not even at half HP so it makes no sense. oh yeah but you can stop his arts with impede 3 quartz right, 80% chance right? Nope, as soon as he gets a turn he uses the art (you know it's tearal) right after casting it, and I'd say that happens 90% of the time, even if everyone was at max speed.

fight literally took 2 hours then I realized that Estelle and Shera could do 4k+ damage with a crit turn and their best S-craft, mostly Estelle if you get her strongest weapon. and even with that you need to get lucky.

/rant

now I wonder if SC has similar fights

max_505 · Oct 28, 2015

I promised myself that I'd play FC's soundtrack (more like the soundtrack selections from FC's premium edition) and prostrate in front of the TV while shouting, "Praise Aidios!" just before I play SC. No hesitations later.

Se7enSword · Oct 28, 2015

Nice OT!

Can't wait to go on a buying spree tomorrow

Dragoon En Regalia · Oct 28, 2015

Finalow said:
now I wonder if SC has similar fights

I'm guessing SC's fight with him will be equally tedious at that difficulty, but who knows.

Shouta · Oct 28, 2015

*looks outside* Are those pigs I see in the horizon?

Maybe I'll buy a few copies and hand them out to friends.

Sanpunkan · Oct 28, 2015

Aeana said:
All of the games in this series are like that if you want to get absolutely everything. They all have hidden quests that you'll only ever uncover by talking to NPCs (aren't listed on the board), all have books to collect, etc. Although I think FC and SC are the worst about having to go to an extremely out of the way place to get a book or a hidden quest... though I can think of one particularly dumb case in Trails of Cold Steel.

I'm looking into jumping into FC now that SC is coming, but this bothers me because I can tend to be a neurotic completionist. If I know there's tons of missable things I'll use a guide and destroy any enjoyment I may have derived from playing.

That said, are these missable items a big deal? A better question is, would a first-timer be recommended to just play and enjoy, or play with a guide because that stuff is really important? I rarely give games more than a single play through, for what it's worth.

BassForever · Oct 28, 2015

jonjonaug said:
This is for FC, pretty sure they meant SC.

Yeah and if its the same guide I used for FC it's missing a liberl news paper :C

Barrylocke · Oct 28, 2015

I am so damn ready for this. The game I've been most hyped for all year, coming in less than 24 hours. I'm bouncing in my seat as I type this!

I do need to do some more refreshing with the LP. At the minimum I need to reread the 100 day war book.

Dice// · Oct 28, 2015

jonjonaug said:
This is for FC, pretty sure they meant SC.

My bad, read too fast. All gamefaqs has for SC is one half-finished guide. So...uh, power to the players, hopefully we can figure things out and update the OT FAQ as it comes? ;/

Nerokis · Oct 28, 2015

I won't get around to playing this for awhile, as I've yet to truly dive into FC, but I'll happily purchase it the moment it becomes available on Steam. After everything that's been said about the rough localization process, and with how long fans have had to wait, this release really feels like a triumph.

I should give FC a proper go now. I put in around 5 hours, decided to give XSEED some time to work out bugs and implement the Monster Book (lol, feels kind of ridiculous writing that), and then decided to wait even longer for more information about SC's release. It's time.

EVA UNIT 01 · Oct 28, 2015

Nooooo
Why do i work tomorrow

Finalow · Oct 28, 2015

ready for more Olivier than ever. it must have been fun and also a pain in the ass to translate him. :^

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depending on character levels for your clear data, they will start the game at the following levels -

35 or lower - 35
36 to 39 - same level
40 or above - 40

wasn't Estelle the only one to join with those levels?
anyhow, I don't get it. I'm assuming I play as Estelle since the beginning or shortly after, so isn't she pretty much overpowered until the end of the game? Or maybe the game starts with monsters at level 40+ from the beginning as well? That would make much more sense actually.

Uchigatana · Oct 28, 2015

Finalow said:
ready for more Olivier than ever. it must have been fun and also a pain in the ass to translate him. :^

wasn't Estelle the only one to join with those levels?
anyhow, I don't get it. I'm assuming I play as Estelle since the beginning or shortly after, so isn't she pretty much overpowered until the end of the game? Or maybe the game starts with monsters at level 40+ from the beginning as well?

By the time the other characters join her, they will be well above 40.

ShadowgeistX · Oct 28, 2015

Is there a spoiler free missables guide for this game? Because man, the amount of times I reloaded my save in FC thanks to the Carnelia series is unreal. During the second time through I actually missed the precise point where you have to redeem the books.

Apparently I suck with missable items and it'll plague me till the day I die lol.

zakujanai · Oct 28, 2015

The Illiterati said:
If it's even 10% off I'll buy it. Otherwise, might as well wait until I'll actually have time to play it. Not until after Fallout 4, that's for sure.

For the sake of $3? If you're a fan of the first one just buy it, if you're not, don't. Don't see what difference $3 makes

krYlon · Oct 28, 2015

Sanpunkan said:
I'm looking into jumping into FC now that SC is coming, but this bothers me because I can tend to be a neurotic completionist. If I know there's tons of missable things I'll use a guide and destroy any enjoyment I may have derived from playing.

That said, are these missable items a big deal? A better question is, would a first-timer be recommended to just play and enjoy, or play with a guide because that stuff is really important? I rarely give games more than a single play through, for what it's worth.

I played without a guide and enjoyed it perfectly fine.
I missed a bunch of stuff but isn't that the nature of rpgs and non-linearity? It's your own experience and you're not necessarily supposed to 100% everything first time. I'd rather miss missables then play a game with a guide.

It might be different for you as you're a completionist but it's completely fine for a first time player to just relax, play in your own way, do your own thing and understand what's going on. It'll be your own experience.

SpaceDrake · Oct 28, 2015

The OT I have waited four years for.

I hope you guys enjoy. It's been a long, long, long road.

Sara, myself, and XSEED folks will be around to answer questions. Jess is traveling on the 29th (sadface!), so she might not hop in immediately.

Thud · Oct 28, 2015

Olivier is the true protagonist.

wrowa · Oct 28, 2015

Still can't believe this is actually happening. Tomorrow will be great.

zerokoolpsx · Oct 28, 2015

Olivier is one of my favorites haha. Gotta decide if I want it on PSP or PC, or both?

EVA UNIT 01 · Oct 28, 2015

Screw it.
Playing at work on every break as well.
Coworker relationships be damned

Morrigan Stark · Oct 28, 2015

Yay!
Insta-wishlisted on Steam. Not sure when I'll buy it, 'cause of my current backlog, and the Bloodborne DLC coming out next month. It might have to be a Christmas gift, due to the timing, but I'm still pretty excited. More Olivier sounds awesome. xD

Eusis · Oct 28, 2015

EVA UNIT 01 said:
Screw it.
Playing at work on every break as well.
Coworker relationships be damned

This is how you indoctrinate them!

Or just deeply embarrass yourself.

AcademicSaucer · Oct 28, 2015

Does this game do anything with the save data from the first one ?

hosannainexcelsis · Oct 28, 2015

AcademicSaucer said:
Does this game do anything with the save data from the first one ?

Yes, if you read the OP it lays out what transferring a save from FC to SC will do.

Rollo Lawson · Oct 28, 2015

I'm going PC for this. I hope to be completely wrapped in it all weekend.

ChanMan · Oct 28, 2015

I am curious about the gameplay changes in this one.

Dragoon En Regalia · Oct 28, 2015

Thud said:
Olivier is the true protagonist.

He's today Danjuro Kabuki, he gets high on you.

hosannainexcelsis · Oct 28, 2015

Durante said:
That's why I normally dislike design in JRPG which has too many time-limited missables.

Unless they're required for progression, I don't have a problem with it. I actually like the idea of games that make you go out of your way to achieve 100% completion; that should be something to have to work for rather than it always being something that's simple to achieve. If you don't want to make extra playthroughs or extra effort for 100%, then don't bother with it; you shouldn't feel required to complete every ounce of content a game has to offer if you don't enjoy doing so.

SatelliteOfLove · Oct 28, 2015

zerokoolpsx said:
Olivier is one of my favorites haha. Gotta decide if I want it on PSP or PC, or both?

Pretty much.

Eusis said:
This is how you indoctrinate them!

Or just deeply embarrass yourself.

"What? You're on your phone!"

I played FC a couple of resturant visits with coworkers, and it was one of the "Estelle and Josette hilariously insult each others' femininity" scenes, too so I was constantly snickering. Course, that was before the iphone barrage was at a fever pitch, but...

LordGorchnik · Oct 28, 2015

Shouta said:
*looks outside* Are those pigs I see in the horizon?

Maybe I'll buy a few copies and hand them out to friends.

This is exactly what I plan on doing.

KuwabaraTheMan · Oct 28, 2015

hosannainexcelsis said:
Unless they're required for progression, I don't have a problem with it. I actually like the idea of games that make you go out of your way to achieve 100% completion; that should be something to have to work for rather than it always being something that's simple to achieve. If you don't want to make extra playthroughs or extra effort for 100%, then don't bother with it; you shouldn't feel required to complete every ounce of content a game has to offer if you don't enjoy doing so.

Agreed. I like it when a 100% is hard earned, and not just something you get normally. It should feel like an accomplishment.

ChickenHunter · Oct 28, 2015

Been waiting for this to come out so I could finish my own playthrough of FC. Glad to see the day has finally come.
If i'm towards the start of Chapter 2 in FC, how many more hours do I have to go assuming I go for all the BP? I don't want to miss out on any of those save transfer bonuses.

SatelliteOfLove · Oct 28, 2015

KuwabaraTheMan said:
Agreed. I like it when a 100% is hard earned, and not just something you get normally. It should feel like an accomplishment.

I look at stuff like this as a nuanced (and therefore better than a damn rote toggle) difficulty mode. The more you care, the harder the game gets!

DangerMouse · Oct 28, 2015

ramoisdead said:

We've finally almost made it to getting to play this

leesmapman · Oct 28, 2015

My PSP is not ready yet... Going to charge the battery, clear the memory card (removing Brandish) and copying the save file of TitS:FC...

Dragoon En Regalia · Oct 28, 2015

leesmapman said:
clear the memory card (removing Brandish)

No! Please, not one of the best remakes (and OG games) Falcom has made! There's got to be another way!

If there isn't, do what you have to, but Brandish needs to get its respect. So does Lord Monarch, but I struggle along on that front.

Augemitbutter · Oct 28, 2015

ShadowgeistX said:
Is there a spoiler free missables guide for this game? Because man, the amount of times I reloaded my save in FC thanks to the Carnelia series is unreal. During the second time through I actually missed the precise point where you have to redeem the books.

Apparently I suck with missable items and it'll plague me till the day I die lol.

currently replaying FC. some guy just gave me one of those books. i was just thinking: no, i'm not doing this shit. keep your book.

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