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Netflix plans to spend $8 billion to make its library 50 percent original by 2018
- Thread starter Shard
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Bring back This Is Wonderland, and Slings and Arrows. Think of all the
There must be at least two other people who liked those shows at the time and would be just curious enough to watch their revivals but not curious enough to see if those shows hold up.
Random Human
They were trying to grab your prize. They work for the mercenary. The masked man.
It does feel a bit like Netflix is a slightly classier direct to video fate for these movies.
SciencePilot
Member
It's a risky maneuver but it is their only path for survival. This market is extremely tough and there's no way they'd survive otherwise.
It's too bad though. It would have been nice to live in a world where Netflix became a great archive of TV and movies.
It's too bad though. It would have been nice to live in a world where Netflix became a great archive of TV and movies.
Nordic4tKnight
Member
Technically they still can be the great archive as long as they are one of the last services standing in the end. I think a lot of the smaller streaming services will eventually shut down since people are enharently lazy and cheap and wont subscribe to more than 3ish services.
This. They going all in with their own content but I can't watch the movies I started paying for Netflix in the first place. I wanted all my favorite movies in one place, a huge solid library in one app, but now it's just littered with movies I never heard of and shows I'm not sure I want to invest in. Netflix is getting played out.
Compsiox
Banned
Then they ruined it.
ChubbyHuggs
Member
And their category sections are a fucking mess. Just casually browsing comedy is a nightmare when you have to trawl through 100 Spanish movies, 100 Indian movies, 100 Korean movies, just to find an English movie. I have no problem watching any of those, but sometimes you're in the mood for one and not the others. I can see people who prefer one to the other just giving up searching.
Some of it is pretty good, most of it is pretty mediocre.
And all the while, their movie selection seems to be getting worse. Which is why I originally signed up for Netflix all those years ago. Plus they keep raising their prices to produce so many shows I just don't care for.
Edit: My biggest worry is that every subscription service is going down this road and it's just dumb. I want all my movies and t.v. shows in one place, not paying for three different subscriptions so they can all make original shows. I feel like they lost the plot...
shira
Member
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BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
They're getting a Witcher series
N7 MRP Weasel
Banned
Hurry up and make a Hyperion mega series or Dune before HBO gobbles it all up...
moffattron9000
Member
Cool. My favourite show this year was a Netflix "original" after all.
Megawarrior
Member
What is amazon doing (or going to be doing)?cause while I have had prime for years, I have literally only used it once to watch an anime that wasn't on crunchyroll due to exclusivity. the interface was godawful.
Can't disagree with ya about movies and Netflix at all. I'm just happy they have something somewhat tolerable to listen to in the background as opposed to repeats of CSI Miami, lol.
I'm not sure what they have planned, but their big shows right now are Transparent and Man in the High Castle. The Tick is pretty good too. But I'm sure they're working on more stuff. I think in terms of original content, they're relatively new compared to Netflix and Hulu.
Spyder_Monkey
Banned
The 30 new anime series sounds more like a threat to me.
Agreed. They started out with some quality shows but I barely like anything new from them now. The Marvel stuff all turned to garbage with the Defenders and Iron Fist.
I wish they keep more good licensed stuff to be honest than forcibly try create new mediocre content.
Iron fist really fucked them over. What a mess.
RecRoulette
Member
Cool, the original stuff is what got me to resub in the first place a couple of months ago.
Man in the High Castle is so good and worth it alone. Also I just wanted to add, I think I remember watching a pilot about these guys moving to some farm for jobs. Thought it was pretty funny, hope thats still coming.
Crimson_Echidna
Banned
It's not surprising when you think about it. The lines have metaphorically been drawn in the sand as far as streaming content goes what with Disney planning to pull all their content and launch their own service(s) in 2019, CBS walling off Stark Trek: Discovery behind their own streaming service, and other companies like Warner Bros. also working on their unique service.
Netflix is definitely going to feel this so it makes sense for them to start pumping more money into their original content selling their subscribers on the idea of them before they start jumping ship.
Netflix is definitely going to feel this so it makes sense for them to start pumping more money into their original content selling their subscribers on the idea of them before they start jumping ship.
Didn't Dark Matter just get new episodes added to Netflix which also came out this year?
sleepnaught
Member
I enjoy Netflix original content so this is a great news to me. Between Amazon, Netflix, and HBO Now, I never have trouble finding something great to watch.
Crossing Eden
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Arondight
Member
Probably not just fantasy but a generally a good consistent epic to watch on par with the quality of GOT or Black Sails. I wouldn't mind original content if it was more consistent in quality but so far, they're kind of a mixed bag in terms of quality, half the time you have great quality and then the other half is just terrible.
If only they spent that amount on a couple of quality TV shows every year. I still find it amazing that GOT costs around 100 million. I think the binge also isn't quite great as well, it's nice initially but it does absolutely kill discussion, community not to mention the quick succession doesn't allow for digesting everything seen. Even starting by spreading the content one episode every 2 days or 4 days would do wonders and it would make it so that if they did have enough quality shows, that one show would lead on to the next giving people ample amount of content throughout the year.
I also vastly prefer TV content more than films the last film I watched must of been Beasts of no Nations.
mariachi507
Member
Netflix is too good to us. The price is still relatively low compared to other services, their player is probably the best in the market, all tv episodes released at once, and there are no ads. Somethings gotta give eventually though, and of course they are going to spend money to make more original content. The reason being is that all of the other companies want a piece of the Netflix pie so they are pulling their content to start their own services. Netflix has to survive on something. And yeah, a good portion of their originals have been trash (like the Sandler movies) but I don't blame them for trying to pull in an audience, and Sandler at least used to have one. I don't know how anyone could say that they are all trash though. They've released two films just this month that I've enjoyed (Gerald's Game and The Babysitter). Add their documentaries and tv shows into that and I think they offer a fine value. I do wish I could have my AMC shows on there forever, but I won't be surprised when one day I log on and they're not. Netflix doesn't own them.
I hope these investments pay off for them and that they keep taking chances on unique projects (Okja, Stranger Things, The Irishman, etc.) They seem to be interested in giving their creators chances and after all of these years of continued service they have my loyalty.
I agree with others about Netflix paying too much for certain projects. I love Dave Chappelle and all, but $60,000,000 is insane for 3 comedy specials. Then again, we live in a world where some classic tv shows can fetch a price as high as $100,000,000.
I hope these investments pay off for them and that they keep taking chances on unique projects (Okja, Stranger Things, The Irishman, etc.) They seem to be interested in giving their creators chances and after all of these years of continued service they have my loyalty.
I agree with others about Netflix paying too much for certain projects. I love Dave Chappelle and all, but $60,000,000 is insane for 3 comedy specials. Then again, we live in a world where some classic tv shows can fetch a price as high as $100,000,000.
MHWilliams
Member
Then talk to the folks that have the rights to those old movies and non-Netflix stuff.
Companies are raising their prices for that content. They also want to put that content on their own platforms. Even beyond that, assuming Netflix would be able to keep stuff, they'd have to start charging more and folks already pitched a fit that sub prices are going up $2, so that's a no-go.
You can be unhappy with it, but at least place the blame on the right party.
Discotheque
Banned
He said he's lost his fight to pitch movies and get budgets now (even gone girl was a hard sell to the studios and then it ends up making like almost 300 million lol)
It's pretty sad. And id rather see his movies in theaters. But if Netflix is willing to put up the money for his films then I really hope he considers it rather than sticking to tv
Like I'm enjoying mindhunters quite a bit but in the grand scheme of things it's one of the worst things he's worked on this century too. Mans gotta make more movies.
Adam Sadler
Member
I've actually enjoyed quite a few recent Netflix Originals tbh, they have been going upwards in terms of quality or becoming more consistent I feel.
All these streaming services are going to die. The market won't be able to sustain every channel and production company making their own streaming service for 10 bucks a month. Netflix should be saving its money and only taking sure shots at original content and building a bank it can use until the eventual crash and consolidation of the streaming market again.
The end result of a Netflix monopoly is more likely that the currently low subscription price is higher.
While some of the subscription services of the traditional content companies do not last, there is little indication that all competition will die off. Amazon has 80 million subscribers, HBO has 50 million, and Apple has 30 million.
Finally, content owners can just choose to collect digital revenue in the form of digital purchases instead of take small amounts from streaming services. Before the many competing streaming services came about and Netflix was the only streaming video service in town, many providers just chose to keep their content off Netflix. We can look at the China streaming market (where subscriptions are like $2-$5/month) to see that many content owners will balk at putting their content on these platforms when the revenue is paltry.
Soapbox Killer
Grand Nagus
Netflix needs to chill with releasing entire season at once. Give us some time to digest the product. Also, they need a Live Stream that has News, Sports and Talk.
NoMoreTrolls
Banned
I believe the 50 percent bit; they keep dropping my favorite shit off the service.
But in your scenario, why would the market consolidate to Netflix? If they're simply looking to have a handful of high quality properties to sell, then I could understand. But if Netflix wants to maintain their status as market leader, then they will need a great deal of capital in the form of both original content + userbase.
When the streaming market eventually collapses, it will all be folding into the highest stakeholder. If Netflix comes to the table with only 20 or 30 items plus a mediocre userbase, then they're DOA.
Fast Forward
Member
Yep.
My thoughts exactly.
The golden age of Netflix being a one stop shop for movies, and TV shows was bound to have a limited shelf life, though, so this news does not surprise me at all. Everyone wants that Netflix money, and in pursuit of that we are gonna have 9 million challengers to the throne, like CBS All Access.
As it is, I'm surprised CBS has not already pulled their content, like Star Trek, from Netflix.