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Red Bull CEO outlines pro-Trump, anti-refugee beliefs in interview
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Well he kinda sounds like any other conservative old man who fears of losing his values and traditions, which is stupid in itself.
It also seems like he mostly gets his opinion-building information from rather conservative (not to say right-wing) outlets. I don't think he has first-hand experience with anything refugee-related, lol.
.. and I (as grandchild of a Turkish immigrant in Germany) think he's partially right about the "refugee according to the Geneva convention" thing, which could have been handled better by the EU right from the start of the crisis.
A huge portion of refugees that you see and interact with every day in Germany are clearly people who used the opportunity to move to a country where they can live a much more comfortable life (before anything else), no one can deny that. And there is also absolutely nothing wrong about people being opportunistic here, everyone would've done the same in the same circumstances.
But that convention was also established for a reason, so I guess a lot of conservative people cry foul because a lot of refugees did not "play by the rules" and the Austrian and German politicians just let it happen.
I can understand the frustration with that, but after having read the whole interview, I still can't decide whether he is just one of that frustrated bunch or whether he is one of the fear-mongering idiots.
It also seems like he mostly gets his opinion-building information from rather conservative (not to say right-wing) outlets. I don't think he has first-hand experience with anything refugee-related, lol.
.. and I (as grandchild of a Turkish immigrant in Germany) think he's partially right about the "refugee according to the Geneva convention" thing, which could have been handled better by the EU right from the start of the crisis.
A huge portion of refugees that you see and interact with every day in Germany are clearly people who used the opportunity to move to a country where they can live a much more comfortable life (before anything else), no one can deny that. And there is also absolutely nothing wrong about people being opportunistic here, everyone would've done the same in the same circumstances.
But that convention was also established for a reason, so I guess a lot of conservative people cry foul because a lot of refugees did not "play by the rules" and the Austrian and German politicians just let it happen.
I can understand the frustration with that, but after having read the whole interview, I still can't decide whether he is just one of that frustrated bunch or whether he is one of the fear-mongering idiots.
Escape Goat
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The British and Latin invasions already happened in the 60s and 90s respectively.
jim2point0
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Ugh. Now what the hell do I drink.
Oh. Healthy stuff I guess. No time like the present.
Oh. Healthy stuff I guess. No time like the present.
radios shipping overview
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Old food industrialist has right-wing views, despite his company's youth-oriented marketing. Mild shock.
Fenderputty
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The "explanation" in the OP doesn't really make the CEO's stance seem less pro trump, IMO. Honestly it sounded like a man who supports Trump but isn't stupid enough to openly say it like the Under Armor CEO.
shadowsdarknes
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Red Bull is such an easy product line to avoid.
Will be avoiding.
Will be avoiding.
moffattron9000
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Well at least I can keep drinking V. I can also feel safe in knowing that it's owned by a faceless Japanese conglomerate.
jim2point0
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It's going to be a hard habit to break.
A few months ago I had to work really late one night. I thought "I'll get me an energy drink." I bought a red bull because I thought I would hate it and wouldn't want to drink them in the future but would get me through the night.
Turns out that I did like it and now I'm bloody addicted to the things.
Yeah I could go for more boycotts of stuff I'd never touch with a ten foot pole. Can we get the Miracle Whip CEO to come out against vaccines?
I think it more that he is a citizen of Austria not the US and thus really doesn't have much of a stake in the president of US. As in it doesn't make any practical difference to him if he supports Trump or not and thus he doesn't really have an opinion on the matter. Here in Europe we have had this anti-immigrant right wing going on long before we even had the first rumours of Trump running for president.
RPGCrazied
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I would stop drinking it, if I drink these types of energy drinks. I mostly drink vitamin water and juice sometimes.
crooked spin
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I don't know anyone who actually drinks the shit but honestly Red Bull Music Academy gives quite a bit of money/resources to artists.
Fenderputty
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How much businesses does redbull have in the US? He has plenty stake.
just read the original interview since it was in German.
What he says is not half as bad as this thread makes out to believe. It certainly isn't pro-Trump. It's not very anti-Trump either.
His anti-refugee comments are rather "mild" compared to what is out there. His main point seems to be about how politicians mishandled the situation. But yes he does sound like a grumpy old man who thinks most who come here are not real refugees. Clearly misinformed about the situations.
This thread though is something else. Calling him a fascist and posting pics of the Swastika nicely reflects the downward spiral GAF has took in the last few months.
What he says is not half as bad as this thread makes out to believe. It certainly isn't pro-Trump. It's not very anti-Trump either.
His anti-refugee comments are rather "mild" compared to what is out there. His main point seems to be about how politicians mishandled the situation. But yes he does sound like a grumpy old man who thinks most who come here are not real refugees. Clearly misinformed about the situations.
This thread though is something else. Calling him a fascist and posting pics of the Swastika nicely reflects the downward spiral GAF has took in the last few months.
Kill Your Masters
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Yeah but not the brown ones so that doesn't count.
I've never bought a single Red Bull. I've tasted it, though. After tasting that, and trying a Monster, never again. I can't stand energy drinks.
Xisiqomelir
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That is revolting. Our unique, distinct cultures are what enrich our collective human existence.
I don't blame Mateschitz for slamming this Belgian guy.
It's not an easy brand to avoid. They have their fingers in a lot of pies. Especially here in NYC, they sponsor like half of the decent music concerts.
apparently some people are very keen on pressing complex issues into easy to understand black and white categories. sadly reality (outside the US) isn't that simpel - and this cast isn't either
I'll never understand the "just let it happen" or "invited them" "argument". boarders aren't physical things, but that seemingly hard to understand for right wingers.
everyone in Austria is a "migrant" in some shape or form
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multinational_state#Austria-Hungary
I'll never understand the "just let it happen" or "invited them" "argument". boarders aren't physical things, but that seemingly hard to understand for right wingers.
everyone in Austria is a "migrant" in some shape or form
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multinational_state#Austria-Hungary
Westbahnhof
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Am I the only one who unironically thinks that stuff is delicious?
Nope. Same here.
That's pretty light for a 72 year old European. Most oldies here are very hateful towards any kinds of immigrants. Can barely even deal with their country neighbors half of the time.
Red Bull is probably full of people who are pro Trump and anti-Trump. Massive company.
Even if this old guy was some extra hateful curmudgeon I'd still enjoy things like Digging in the Carts.
Red Bull not so much. Some Monster flavors sure. That's just the two most mainstream companies out there though. I'm sure if I was more than just a can a month/2 weeks guy I'd be able to find certain flavors that I'd enjoy a lot.
Red Bull is probably full of people who are pro Trump and anti-Trump. Massive company.
Even if this old guy was some extra hateful curmudgeon I'd still enjoy things like Digging in the Carts.
Red Bull not so much. Some Monster flavors sure. That's just the two most mainstream companies out there though. I'm sure if I was more than just a can a month/2 weeks guy I'd be able to find certain flavors that I'd enjoy a lot.
I appreciate the occasional red bull when I'm real tired and on the go for a long day of whatever outside activity. Usually in the summer. I'll buy like 6 a year max I'd guess. I do genuinely like the taste. There are others I like here (Montreal) so I'll be switching to those. Sometimes I do anyway.
A 70 something year old billionaire though... I mean, I'm against it and will easily boycott but I'm zero surprised someone like this would have those beliefs.
A 70 something year old billionaire though... I mean, I'm against it and will easily boycott but I'm zero surprised someone like this would have those beliefs.
The Artisan
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I never liked Redbull anyway
And I don't mean that sarcastically
And I don't mean that sarcastically
Yep. The strangest thing about this is that Mateschitz actually calls out the people in this thread for precisely that reason. The black-and-white view. The immediate attack on anyone with an opposing view. He literally says this is what happens nowadays and then here we go, one badly translated article later...
Westbahnhof
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I mean Red Bull Cola, which isn't an energy drink. Just their take on cola. Literally everyone I know hates it.
It reminds me of something, a nostalgic feeling, not sure why, maybe some brand I enjoyed as a kid?
Normal cola does nothing like that.
Oh I wasn't even aware they made non-energy drinks. I like coke in general. The differences from brand to brand don't really impact me like they do you. Maybe Pepsi is too sweet. But even then if it's a hot day it's still refreshing to me.
I was ready to say that it's good I never liked Red Bull. Which is true and I'm not going to start now, but the interpretation by Aiii doesn't sound that horrible. I get that anything said about Trump can/will be taken as support when it's not clearly and strictly just calling the dude as piece of shit that he is.
Also havent heard about this Resident Advisor site before, not sure it's something we should be getting news like this from? It's a site for electronic music afterall, not journalistic outlet.
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Also havent heard about this Resident Advisor site before, not sure it's something we should be getting news like this from? It's a site for electronic music afterall, not journalistic outlet.
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Westbahnhof
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The difference is much bigger than Pepsi-Coke, I'd say. Maybe I'm wrong, but I feel like there is something really different going on with their weird, "all-natural cola".
On topic, good thing it's super overpriced just like their energy drink, which means I'm basically boycotting Red Bull by default.
evilromero
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Invasion? Do you think your choice of word here already proved your bias regarding this story?
If you don't know the answer, it is yes.
Netherscourge
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Bye Bye Red Bull
ElRenoRaven
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Well I don't drink energy drinks but if I did or ever do it shall not be Red Bull. That's for damn sure.
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