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ShogunDarius
(06-01-2016, 08:55 PM)
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Originally Posted by Jrmint

Yea I assumed cathedral because he said only one. When people talk about the river ones they usually refer to the guy with the big ass gun.

yeah cathedral, so that guy sitting on the chair/altar is optional?
Morrigan Stark
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(06-01-2016, 09:01 PM)
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Originally Posted by Orochinagis

Whats the difference

One has snakes. The other has a toxic swamp.

Originally Posted by Deku Tree

Yeah I hate the Shadows... just because there are three of them.

Heh, Shadows were always cake on all of my characters. The pillar in the centre makes it easy to take refuge and heal if you're in trouble.
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(06-01-2016, 09:14 PM)
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Originally Posted by Morrigan Stark

One has snakes. The other has a toxic swamp.


Heh, Shadows were always cake on all of my characters. The pillar in the centre makes it easy to take refuge and heal if you're in trouble.

Yeah well I was doing fine every time I tried it last night until during each attempt I either got one shot at full health by an off camera combo mostly from that flame spray thing or I got one shot at full health by the snake super.

Hiding behind the pillar to heal wasn't helping with all the one shots on NG+2. I hadn't done the fight in a long time. I finally got it done but it's my least favorite boss in Bloodborne. I don't like all the running away that's required.
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ShogunDarius
(06-01-2016, 09:20 PM)
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Originally Posted by Deku Tree

Yeah well I was doing fine every time I tried it last night until during each attempt I either got one shot at full health by an off camera combo mostly from that flame spray thing or I got one shot at full health by the snake super.

Hiding behind the pillar to heal wasn't helping with all the one shots on NG+2. I hadn't done the fight in a long time. I finally got it done but it's my least favorite boss in Bloodborne. I don't like all the running away that's required.

is this the fight that's like taking on the Nazgul with one seemingly being Orochimaru?
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(06-01-2016, 09:34 PM)
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Originally Posted by Deku Tree

Yeah I hate the Shadows... just because there are three of them.

I never figured out how people just walk up to the first one and start wailing on it without dying. I see people doing it but has never worked for me like ever.

I always end up taking cheap shots and then running around and then taking more cheap swipes and repeating that... I don't like fighting that way. But whenever I run up to one of them to engage with more than one or two hits then another one destroys me from some area that is outside of my camera's vision.

I can get it done that way but not my idea of a fun fight, and on NG+2 if you get combo'd by another shadow that is outside your camera's view then it's usually instant death even from full health even with 50 vitality at level 230.

But they are so easy though:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzFbdD1y0hM
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(06-01-2016, 09:57 PM)
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Originally Posted by Orochinagis

Eh, there is a new OT so I recommend to go there.

Is for people who platinum the game

Ahhh didn't see there was a new thread already, my bad.

And ohhh its for platinum only. Still need to go through the other endings then.
ShogunDarius
(06-01-2016, 09:58 PM)
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the dlc is bloody hard, even has that enemy I hate from Cainhurst
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(06-01-2016, 10:03 PM)
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Originally Posted by ShogunDarius

the dlc is bloody hard, even has that enemy I hate from Cainhurst

You fight the first boss yet?
ShogunDarius
(06-01-2016, 10:08 PM)
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Originally Posted by JadedWriter

You fight the first boss yet?

Not yet, the normal enemies are giving me a good challenge so far, the spider thing ladies plus hunters on the bridge especially
Orochinagis
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(06-01-2016, 10:12 PM)
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Originally Posted by ShogunDarius

Not yet, the normal enemies are giving me a good challenge so far, the spider thing ladies plus hunters on the bridge especially

You are gonna meet a big wall of PAIN, and hooves
JadedWriter
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(06-01-2016, 10:12 PM)
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Originally Posted by ShogunDarius

Not yet, the normal enemies are giving me a good challenge so far, the spider thing ladies plus hunters on the bridge especially

What's your level and weapon level? You probably shouldn't be there with anything less than a +8 weapon.

Originally Posted by Orochinagis

You gotta meet a big wall of PAIN, and hooves

Rape horse bruh.
Deku Tree
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(06-01-2016, 10:21 PM)
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Originally Posted by ShogunDarius

is this the fight that's like taking on the Nazgul with one seemingly being Orochimaru?

Something like that.

Originally Posted by JadedWriter

But they are so easy though:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzFbdD1y0hM

I just realized that I should have put on the bone marrow ash armor. the armor that I was wearing had horrible fire defense so I was taking way more damage than I should have been...
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(06-01-2016, 10:41 PM)
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I've never summoned an NPC before, so I'm wondering if the NPC dies during the boss battle are they gone forever?
ShogunDarius
(06-01-2016, 10:43 PM)
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Originally Posted by JadedWriter

What's your level and weapon level? You probably shouldn't be there with anything less than a +8 weapon.

Rape horse bruh.

Right now

Lvl 102

Saw cleaver +10
Blood gems
Physical attack up + 18%

Atk up +15%

Physical attack up +12.6
Add physical atk up +6.6

All in all physical attack 180 + 250
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(06-01-2016, 10:59 PM)
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Originally Posted by ZiggyPalffyLA

I've never summoned an NPC before, so I'm wondering if the NPC dies during the boss battle are they gone forever?

No it's not like DS3 in that way.

But if you miss a missable side quest then that NPC will not be summonable for later boss fights and there is no replacement NPC to summon so you get no NPC summon.
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(06-01-2016, 11:13 PM)
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https://mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne/17265

What do you think of this build? I'm thinking about doing threaded cane then blade of mercy then rakuyo plus old hunters bone when I get them. I'm kinda stuck with 21 STR unless I start a new character.
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(06-02-2016, 12:25 AM)
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Originally Posted by ShogunDarius

Right now

Lvl 102

Saw cleaver +10
Blood gems
Physical attack up + 18%

Atk up +15%

Physical attack up +12.6
Add physical atk up +6.6

All in all physical attack 180 + 250

That's pretty good but you can easily improve it with cursed 19.8% gems dropped by Winter Lanterns in Nightmare of Mensis.
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(06-02-2016, 12:53 AM)
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Originally Posted by Deku Tree

Something like that.



I just realized that I should have put on the bone marrow ash armor. the armor that I was wearing had horrible fire defense so I was taking way more damage than I should have been...

I usually wear either that or Cainhurst set because they're baller. The rest are situational.
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(06-02-2016, 01:07 AM)
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Originally Posted by ZiggyPalffyLA

I've never summoned an NPC before, so I'm wondering if the NPC dies during the boss battle are they gone forever?

Mmm so far only Eileen can die and never respawn but is not a summon NPC

Originally Posted by ShogunDarius

Right now

Lvl 102

Saw cleaver +10
Blood gems
Physical attack up + 18%

Atk up +15%

Physical attack up +12.6
Add physical atk up +6.6

All in all physical attack 180 + 250

Just add a fire paper and you will be alright
The God
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(06-02-2016, 03:57 AM)
So what's the purpose of Madman's Knowledge and Insight?
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(06-02-2016, 05:09 AM)
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Orphan of Kos is a jerk. I can handle its first phase. Any tips for its second phase? It jumps around so much with attacks that can stun you and kill you in two hits.

Originally Posted by The God

So what's the purpose of Madman's Knowledge and Insight?

There are some stuff in the Hunter's dream store (the fountain at the top of the stairs) that can only be bought with insight. There is also something in the game world that can only be seen once you have a certain level of insight.
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(06-02-2016, 05:26 AM)
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Originally Posted by The God

So what's the purpose of Madman's Knowledge and Insight?

To open your eyes
The God
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(06-02-2016, 05:51 AM)
Any tips on how to beat the machine gun Hunter in Old Yharnam? He just keeps fucking me up. His sidearm is bullshit. Should I even try to kill him?
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ShogunDarius
(06-02-2016, 09:13 AM)
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Originally Posted by Jrmint

Yea I assumed cathedral because he said only one. When people talk about the river ones they usually refer to the guy with the big ass gun.

just got to that one last night, the gun guy spawns first and I can even kill him before the other spawns in, ok yeah, Ludwig is pretty damn hard too.
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Toxi
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(06-02-2016, 10:14 AM)
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I was replaying the game and I missed the second part of Eileen's quest (When you talk to her in Cathedral Ward and she gives the shhhh gesture); I accidentally ended up skipping to the fight in Oedon Tomb.

Does that mean I fucked up and get the bad ending? Sucks if so.
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Ferr986
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(06-02-2016, 10:24 AM)
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Originally Posted by The God

Any tips on how to beat the machine gun Hunter in Old Yharnam? He just keeps fucking me up. His sidearm is bullshit. Should I even try to kill him?

Try to make him fall. Or just ignore him and keep going, its not required and you can go back later and even befriend him
Matt Frost
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(06-02-2016, 10:31 AM)
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I thought that the guy on the rooftop of Cainhurst is painful (almost beat him, got so close)... until I met the thing at the end of Nightmare of Mensis... how do you beat that thing after you take half of his health? Is really hard to fight him and his illusions. Should have figured it out since the area is the most painful for me so far.

Also, was backtracking and was doing everything again from the start and when I got to the Big Cathedral I met something with crow clothes. It gave me a pretty tough fight but in the end I killed it. Gave me the option to buy his awesome clothes and a new weapons. The weapon seems to be incredible. Is it or is just me and I like it because is really fast?

Originally Posted by Soulhouf

That's pretty good but you can easily improve it with cursed 19.8% gems dropped by Winter Lanterns in Nightmare of Mensis.

I am on Nightmare of Mensis... where and what are the Winter Lanterns?

Originally Posted by ShogunDarius

the dlc is bloody hard, even has that enemy I hate from Cainhurst

The "thing" right on the beginning before entering the castle? LHB both handed melts them in 3 hits.
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(06-02-2016, 10:45 AM)
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Originally Posted by Matt Frost

I thought that the guy on the rooftop of Cainhurst is painful (almost beat him, got so close)... until I met the thing at the end of Nightmare of Mensis... how do you beat that thing after you take half of his health? Is really hard to fight him and his illusions. Should have figured it out since the area is the most painful for me so far.

Also, was backtracking and was doing everything again from the start and when I got to the Big Cathedral I met something with crow clothes. It gave me a pretty tough fight but in the end I killed it. Gave me the option to buy his awesome clothes and a new weapons. The weapon seems to be incredible. Is it or is just me and I like it because is really fast?



I am on Nightmare of Mensis... where and what are the Winter Lanterns?


.

Tips about that boss. Just ignore the puppets when you are running up and down, they barely follow you. Also, I suppose you're having problems with that magic attack. Just be sure to be lose to him , he triggers that attack when you're far. You can also interrupt him while casting with a shot, although he'll try to cast it again.

About the crow girl, it's part of a quest and it can have a different outcome, you probably missed some steps of that quests. The weapon is good, especially the evade and attack hit (a thrust forward).

And the Winter Lanterns are that ladies with the big brain head that sing, they are found in both Nightmare areas (dunno if you found the Nightmare Frontier area, it's an optional area before Mensis).

Btw, start thinking into diving into the DLC if you have it. Remember that once you beat the final boss the game automatically puts you at the start of NG+.
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Originally Posted by Ferr986

Tips about that boss. Just ignore the puppets when you are running up and down, they barely follow you. Also, I suppose you're having problems with that magic attack. Just be sure to be lose to him , he triggers that attack when you're far. You can also interrupt him while casting with a shot, although he'll try to cast it again.

Thanks. That magic attack is what was giving me a lot of trouble. Will try to be closer, even with his 6 arms with blades on each one.

Originally Posted by Ferr986

About the crow girl, it's part of a quest and it can have a different outcome, you probably missed some steps of that quests. The weapon is good, especially the evade and attack hit (a thrust forward).

Quests? This game has quests? I didnt know. I just found her and wanted to kill. I will go for quests on NG+

Originally Posted by Ferr986

And the Winter Lanterns are that ladies with the big brain head that sing, they are found in both Nightmare areas (dunno if you found the Nightmare Frontier area, it's an optional area before Mensis).

Edit: Searched for a photo of a Winter Lantern and yes, now I remember those. Also, I been to Frontier and beaten Amygdala, was though but the area is amazing. Thanks!

Originally Posted by Ferr986

Btw, start thinking into diving into the DLC if you have it. Remember that once you beat the final boss the game automatically puts you at the start of NG+.

How close am I to the final boss? I dont even know where I stand...
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ShogunDarius
(06-02-2016, 11:49 AM)
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Originally Posted by Matt Frost

Thanks. That magic attack is what was giving me a lot of trouble. Will try to be closer, even with his 6 arms with blades on each one.



Quests? This game has quests? I didnt know. I just found her and wanted to kill. I will go for quests on NG+



Edit: Searched for a photo of a Winter Lantern and yes, now I remember those. Also, I been to Frontier and beaten Amygdala, was though but the area is amazing. Thanks!



How close am I to the final boss? I dont even know where I stand...




you are right there, do the dlc now if you are gonna


Ludwig is an absolute bitch, fucker is hard to pin down
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(06-02-2016, 12:17 PM)
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Originally Posted by ShogunDarius

you are right there, do the dlc now if you are gonna

Didn't know I was so close to the finish line... on my first run at least. Good to know. Thanks

I bought the dlc while it was on sale, I thought you had to finish the game first before accessing it. Also, when you beat the final boss, the game doesn't let you free roam the map before starting NG+? I thought it was the case
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Originally Posted by Matt Frost

Didn't know I was so close to the finish line... on my first run at least. Good to know. Thanks

I bought the dlc while it was on sale, I thought you had to finish the game first before accessing it. Also, when you beat the final boss, the game doesn't let you free roam the map before starting NG+? I thought it was the case

It doesn't, it goes straight to NG+ (Dark Souls 2 and 3 lets you do that).. Basically, once you beat Micolash, you have another boss, then final boss, so stop before fighting the final boss, and head onto the DLC (check out you accessed the Upper Cathedral Ward first though, if not do that instead).

DLC is harder to vanilla so once you beat it you'll probably find the final boss too easy but oh well. You can also have a backup save on PS+ and reload the save after beating the final boss.
ShogunDarius
(06-02-2016, 01:51 PM)
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Any advice for Ludwig, his first form has so much range and damage
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Originally Posted by Ferr986

Try to make him fall. Or just ignore him and keep going, its not required and you can go back later and even befriend him

Any benefits from befriending him? Do I miss out on some good stuff if I kill him?
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Originally Posted by ShogunDarius

Any advice for Ludwig, his first form has so much range and damage

Don't try to dodge away from him. Instead, dodge towards him when he attacks and try to get underneath him. For me, using a fast weapon like the saw spear/cleaver worked well (+ the serration bonus helps a lot).
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Originally Posted by The God

Any benefits from befriending him? Do I miss out on some good stuff if I kill him?

You miss a gesture if killing him. I think the rest you can get it either way.

Originally Posted by Menthuss

Don't try to dodge away from him. Instead, dodge towards him when he attacks and try to get underneath him. For me, using a fast weapon like the saw spear/cleaver worked well for me (+ the serration bonus helps a lot).

This. Or upgrade the Whirligh Saw to +10, pop a fire paper on it and go town holding L2.
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ShogunDarius
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Took 15 health potions, but managed to beat him, beat his second form on the first try though I did get hit by what looked like Squall Lionhearts Blasting Zone, I was at full health for that thankfully
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Originally Posted by ShogunDarius

Took 15 health potions, but managed to beat him, beat his second form on the first try though I did get hit by what looked like Squall Lionhearts Blasting Zone, I was at full health for that thankfully

Congrats. One of my favorites and that theme is GOAT as fuck.

Originally Posted by Ferr986

You miss a gesture if killing him. I think the rest you can get it either way.

I usually kill his ass at some point. I usually just befriend him for the gesture, come back and kill him when I want to get his armor set, which is usually when I get to Mensis or get prepared to go to Mensis.
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Originally Posted by Ferr986

It doesn't, it goes straight to NG+ (Dark Souls 2 and 3 lets you do that).. Basically, once you beat Micolash, you have another boss, then final boss, so stop before fighting the final boss, and head onto the DLC (check out you accessed the Upper Cathedral Ward first though, if not do that instead).

DLC is harder to vanilla so once you beat it you'll probably find the final boss too easy but oh well. You can also have a backup save on PS+ and reload the save after beating the final boss.

I played a bit on my lunchbreak... damn, the DLC area is... hard... really hard. That hunters with the whip sword (I want that, looks way better than the threaded cane) and all the creatures... going back later.

I also went to the Upper Cathedral Ward and except a Orphan Key and other stuff I found a locked door (dont know what are both). What should I do there?
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Originally Posted by Matt Frost

I played a bit on my lunchbreak... damn, the DLC area is... hard... really hard. That hunters with the whip sword (I want that, looks way better than the threaded cane) and all the creatures... going back later.

I also went to the Upper Cathedral Ward and except a Orphan Key and other stuff I found a locked door (dont know what are both). What should I do there?

Keep exploring :) tip: you need to open the big door

And you can get that DLC weapon, yep.
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Originally Posted by Ferr986

Keep exploring :) tip: you need to open the big door

And you can get that DLC weapon, yep.

Ah don't tell me the key opens that door, I had to leave for work and didn't check that. Damn those werewolves are hard to fight 3 at the same time. Well, will give me more practise for the DLC, I feel like I am going to need it.
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Originally Posted by Matt Frost

Ah don't tell me the key opens that door, I had to leave for work and didn't check that. Damn those werewolves are hard to fight 3 at the same time. Well, will give me more practise for the DLC, I feel like I am going to need it.

Those werewolves are a big pain, as are the other enemies in there, be careful. My strat for the werewolves was to back up to the door you come in and hit them with a big weapon through the doorway, because they can't get through.
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Originally Posted by Matt Frost

I played a bit on my lunchbreak... damn, the DLC area is... hard... really hard. That hunters with the whip sword (I want that, looks way better than the threaded cane) and all the creatures... going back later.

I also went to the Upper Cathedral Ward and except a Orphan Key and other stuff I found a locked door (dont know what are both). What should I do there?

Once you get a read on the parry timing for the beast cutter hunters they get a lot easier. I might not be the hugest fan of the beast cutter myself though, I think it's a bit slow compared to the cane.
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I had an awesome fight vs. Lady Maria last night - my first 3 tries I used my LHB and failed miserably. It's just too slow, even with the stagger capability.

My 4th try I used my trusty axe and parried as often as I could and she went down pretty easily. I timed it so that she would die from a visceral, but somehow the actual pistol shot that staggered her also killed her. Damn.

I wish I had recorded it, I have no idea how to record gameplay. I hit the share button and it only showed the last 5 seconds or so, after the battle was over.
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Originally Posted by ZiggyPalffyLA

I had an awesome fight vs. Lady Maria last night - my first 3 tries I used my LHB and failed miserably. It's just too slow, even with the stagger capability.

My 4th try I used my trusty axe and parried as often as I could and she went down pretty easily. I timed it so that she would die from a visceral, but somehow the actual pistol shot that staggered her also killed her. Damn.

I wish I had recorded it, I have no idea how to record gameplay. I hit the share button and it only showed the last 5 seconds or so, after the battle was over.

The ps4 usually automatically records 15 minutes up the point where you hit the share button. I have my settings at double tap share to record though.
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Originally Posted by JadedWriter

Once you get a read on the parry timing for the beast cutter hunters they get a lot easier. I might not be the hugest fan of the beast cutter myself though, I think it's a bit slow compared to the cane.

I will have to get that weapon since I want the Platinum trophy

Originally Posted by Jrmint

Those werewolves are a big pain, as are the other enemies in there, be careful. My strat for the werewolves was to back up to the door you come in and hit them with a big weapon through the doorway, because they can't get through.

LOL now those werewolves will be a cakewalk. Nice tip :) Those Insight stealing monsters are still there, but they come 1 by 1
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Originally Posted by Matt Frost

LOL now those werewolves will be a cakewalk. Nice tip :) Those Insight stealing monsters are still there, but they come 1 by 1

UCW is a good place for the threaded cane. I usually just kill the main one at the locked door, through the locked door to get the key making the ambush later a lot more manageable. Don't be afraid to use some blue elixirs later and don't forget to get a certain gesture from there as well.
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Originally Posted by JadedWriter

Once you get a read on the parry timing for the beast cutter hunters they get a lot easier. I might not be the hugest fan of the beast cutter myself though, I think it's a bit slow compared to the cane.

I like the beast cutter way more than the cane, but I know it's not a popular opinion.
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Originally Posted by Ferr986

I like the beast cutter way more than the cane, but I know it's not a popular opinion.

Beast Cutter probably has better stagger, but I just seem to find that there's a delay with the attack in whip form that I do not like with the Beast Cutter.
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Originally Posted by JadedWriter

UCW is a good place for the threaded cane. I usually just kill the main one at the locked door, through the locked door to get the key making the ambush later a lot more manageable. Don't be afraid to use some blue elixirs later and don't forget to get a certain gesture from there as well.

I got the gesture and never use elixirs and things like that. I definitely should. Damn I can't stop thinking about this game, can't wait to get out of work to get back into it...

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