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Overwatch |OT10| That'll do pig, that'll do
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Ghostbound
Member
People in this game are so fucking sensitive. We didn't even know why he was throwing until the first round was already done, so it was pretty much a guaranteed loss at that point.
Live Junkrat is still a trashfire of a character that is generally not worth picking. He has some niche and gimmick uses now, but it's not something that is super consistent. In soloq he's pretty bad just by nature of soloq(I feel he's better in organized play), but his damage can hurt teams that make big mistakes. There's always a better ladder option, but in rare cases it's fine.
PTR Junkrat is a lot better, but still probably niche. We're still in mobility dominated hell, and just slapping more mobility onto him isn't going to make him compete with Genji or Tracer. It just makes him better at doing what he does and dealing with people jumping on top of him.
He'll prolly be viable with the PTR change, but not anywhere near the current mainline DPS line up. There'd need to be a shift away from the mobile tanks that's stronger than like what Zarya is doing atm.
Baron Doggystyle von Woof
Member
Your right. I don't care if people use Hanzo or Widow. But switching heroes is essential in Overwatch. Specially with payload maps you get stuck sometimes and then some need to switch to counter the enemy. Usually a Hanzo or Widow is useless on some areas.
The thing is that if people are asked to switch they take it too personally. You can be a very good Hanzo AND switch when needed.
Hell even healers switch to adjust to a certain situation. Why is it so hard for Hanzo players to switch?
I played a game just now with a Mei who headshotted Tracer three times in a row he made him throw and go Torb.
I love having a good Mei in our team.
Also just queued up with two diamond friends and we we had masters in our team same goes for the enemy team.
No healer. Checking everyone stats and nope. Not a single healer in our team. GG
Ok. I will be your Mercy guys
A minute later and dead. No one communicate. No one protects you.
To top it off I got disconnected but it was very brief so managed to get back quickly. Payload was near the end so I said fuck it I ain't gonna be your guardian angel. Time for my boy Zen!
We managed to do it with a solo healer vs their lucio/zen and sometimes Mercy. Felt sooooo goood.
I love Zen.
edgefusion
Member
I am really sick of this shitty new loot system. Getting garbage white white blue white over and over but no coins to buy what I want.
I use Comcast as well and it happens most often on the weekends around 1:30AM-2:30AM. I've chosen those times not to play Comp. But yea, it's inconsistent on when they do it sometimes. Pretty annoying. I think I'll switch to FiOS in the future.
My last 15 boxes all had dupes. I haven't gotten anything new. I think if the next two weekly lootboxes gives me all dupes, I'll buy another skin to see if that resets or fixes the issue.
I've actually had more legendary drops than before the change.
What sucks is people's luck is completely random lol
edgefusion
Member
I only want the McCree skin, that's it. With the previous loot system I would have had enough coins to buy it by now, but with this system I'm not even halfway saved up. Great thing I got all those Bastion voice lines though :eyeroll:
I mean, I get it. I watched the same happen in the Halo thread back when Halo was really popular and relevant. I was in the "discord crowd" of that community. It is what it is, people will never all get along, and there will always be people that post more than they should, or maybe have not popular opinions.
I just hate seeing people rag on others opinions because they choose to play on console, it's just a game, who cares? I've always thought the communities should have been split, probably would have been the best for everyone.
Rickenslacker
Banned
Yep, people really monkey pawed that one.
Conrad Link
Member
I was so excited for the loot box update, sounded really cool, they finally listened to a complaint of mine!
lol. >_<
Now I just get nothing, spray spray spray junk and 0 coins to actually buy the item I want like I use to have to do during events cause of my shitty luck with getting the actual item.
So now I still don't get anything I want from loot boxes, and at this rate wont get enough coins to force buy the item either before the event ends.
Woops, monkey paw'ed indeed.
lol. >_<
Now I just get nothing, spray spray spray junk and 0 coins to actually buy the item I want like I use to have to do during events cause of my shitty luck with getting the actual item.
So now I still don't get anything I want from loot boxes, and at this rate wont get enough coins to force buy the item either before the event ends.
Woops, monkey paw'ed indeed.
I'm firmly in the camp of giving absolutely zero fucks about console anything in this game. I've said before that when I talk, I'm only talking about PC and am not going to bother to try to talk about console because I don't care and I definitely am not qualified to talk about console since I've never really played it. I don't mean to shit on console players by saying that. What I am saying is that conversations around the console version are something I shouldn't be a part of.
That gets kinda odd when I'm in a thread of a lot of PS4 players though.
No difference to me in the grand scheme of things when it comes to our general experiences. Most of the OW YouTubers I watch only play on PC and many players here have played on both platforms with some migrating over to PC. The only major difference are people's experiences in the different ranks that they're playing in.
We may disagree at times about certain heroes but I always appreciated your posts here.
The console and PC versions aren't so totally different that anything you say about the game is useless to console players though. Some of the comments, insight and advice I've seen you post have been easily applicable to the console version too so still appreciated! Although endgame for me is to be playing on PC once I've upgraded my POS.
Yea, I wasn't implying you do that. It's all good.
Incendiary
Banned
The problem is that the loot box dupe correction should have happened a long time ago. Now everyone is being inundated with all the blues and whites they never got as the system is correcting itself. When previously when you got blues and whites they were all dupes - if the loot algorithm had been correct then you'd be having more new ones and the dupes would gradually increase over time. Instead what happened was you got about 50% of the most common items and then started getting nothing but dupes with an occasional new common item for a good chunk of time, now you're going to get the other 50% all at once. Once everything evens out and you have more of the blues and whites already the dupe rate should reset back to a comfortable amount of gold acquiring.
But in the mean time, yeah it sucks. At the very least I haven't gotten a legendary dupe since the new algorithm was put in place.
I think most overall discussion can be applied across both console and PC. Positioning on maps, strategies versus certain heroes, which heroes are on meta vs off meta, those kinds of things.
The only thing that doesn't translate well is things that are directly related to the mouse & keyboard's better response time vs. console controllers. Like, when somebody says the best Tracer strategy is to blink through an enemy and then do a quick 180 and blast 'em. That's really hard to do properly on console because quick turns are not as fluid. Same goes for the D.Va discussion I had a few pages back. On console she may be fine because she can't instantly turn and DM from any direction, but good D.Vas on PC can pretty much aim anywhere and DM, so cross-platform balance discussions in that aspect could lead to frustration.
Speaking of which, Blizzard really dropped the ball on adjusting things specifically to console vs PC, huh.
I don't think you've seen my junkrat yet
Let me carry
(You're silver right? That's where I'm at)
I watched a video with the #1 Junk PvPTwitch and he didn't mention any damage reduction in it so I assume not. No clue.
Not sure when they recorded the video but it was released yesterday so maybe it was recorded before the change.
waitwhat42
Member
That second mine is gonna make junk even more popular. Not looking forward to having Hanzo and Junk on my team in every game lol
You have me for Junk and xCobalt for Hanzo (he's an amazing Hanzo). No worries. You only need to worry about Owzers playing DF.
Berserking Guts
Member
It's fun pretending you're going to go Widow at the hero select screen. Especially when you're on a team of annoying kids lol
It took you this long to release an official condemnation?!
This administration is ruining OW-GAF
Berserking Guts
Member
Doomfist always one hit kills me when I'm dps. I'm not even kidding. He's like a blue shell that never misses. He's adversely affected my experience with OW. I don't like him and I want him nerfed the fuck down and when he is I will laugh and drink tears.
Which DPS do you usually play and how do you engage DF?
Berserking Guts
Member
Soldier and Reaper. When I'm Soldier I always engage from a distance but DF homing missile closes the distance and he messes me up. As Reaper I'm flanking and he's always waiting around a corner to get me.
That Tiger uppercut and ground pound is too much for my analog thumbs to keep up with too.
Oh, Reaper is a real issue for me when I play as DF mainly cuz the Wraith form can totally bait the punch and Ult. If you hold onto them when engaging him, you can really mess up DF upclose.
Soldier engagement seems fine altho probably better to simply sprint away if he gets close and hope he targets someone else while you shoot him from a distance. I don't find DF too much of an issue so far. Not many good ones especially in Comp.
That is straight up sinister lol
Mentioned it in the discord, but a main reason I don't play OW atm is that it's the most toxic game I've ever played at this point. I made it through LoL, CSGO, XBL in the early 360 era, and the FGC at large. OW is easily the most consistently toxic in games and in the community I have ever experienced. It's a real bummer.
TheThinWhiteDuke
Member
I'm a low-SR console player, but I love reading what high-level PC players think about the game, how their strategies differ, or just how they're feeling about how things are going overall with Overwatch. It all trickles down eventually.
Most of my Twitch follows are Top500 PC Zens, and I learn a lot watching them, even if they're exponentially better than me.
Terareflection
Member
It's getting so bad that I have to turn off team chat sometimes. A shame.
Thanks! I got a few games in last night with other gaffers. We didn't do too great but it was fun nonetheless.
I can see where you're coming from. I think the severity of it comes from the fact that it stems from teammates. With fighting games and console shooters, it usually comes from the opponent and isn't really detrimental to your performance. Overwatch on the other hand, is objective and team-based. A toxic player will affect five others.
Incendiary
Banned
It's kind of sad since Overwatch is really the first competitive multiplayer game I've enjoyed in a long time. What contributes to it being more toxic than anything else? Is it just Blizzard's atrocious management of reporting? Or do you think it has something to do with the medal system and everyone thinking they're awesome and everyone else is to blame?
1. The queue system is garbage. Role select is a huge source of toxicity. Everything being Dynamic queue starts toxicity over stacks and abuse. The crazy ranking system gives people bad ideas.
2. The report system is a joke. If somebody throws even twice, they should be banned all season. Period. Do it again next season, perma. Etc. Having things go unpunished for so long is absurd.
3. Blizzard didn't give players the tools to learn the game, and the community perception of what to expect from teammates is so wildly variable you never know what you're going to get.
4. Did I mention you can throw 10 game sin a row, go on insane tirades, and even just leave with no penalty? The reporting system is a joke.
5. The idea that the medal system is less toxic than just a scoreboard is one of the greatest jokes ever told.
6. Somebody called me a faggot about 100 times while jumping off the map as Torb 2 games in a row. He got mass reported and only received a chat ban. The reporting system is a joke.
7. There's literally no incentive for being nice. Other games allow you to actually say "this dude was nice" and then they eventually get rewarded. The end screen of OW just shows the highest hidden stat lines and says "vote for nothing" while everybody leaves the lobby.
8. Did I mention the reporting system literally doesn't function correctly?
Ultimately, the fact that Blizzard allowed all this shit to fester for so long while going "Our systems are fine and don't promote toxicity" is really insane and just led to this. It's like when a bunch of children realize that their parents/teacher/whatever left and won't be coming back for a period of time. Once they know they can get away with it, they just keep doing it and it spreads. This could have been handled awhile ago as people started to point out the increase in toxic behavior, but Blizzard in their infinite wisdom decided things were okay to continue as is.
Well imagine console, minus text chat and without absolutely no reporting system. You can do absolutely whatever you want, whenever you want however you want. I agree with you on all the points and partly why ive made little effort to try to transition to PC because it just seems like the same shit wrong with console even if it is the better game. My interest is also no where near it was a month or so ago.