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No Drivers For Xbox One Controller? [up: Penello brings everyone kittens]
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michaelius
Banned
Don't really care i'm not buying Xbone anyway so I'd have to buy pad separately if i decide to get rid of my x360 pad i use for pc.
BTW, DS4 works great on PC, both as generic controller and via that DS4Tool app that emulates X360 gamepad.
Actually I don't mind. Maybe it will encourage devs to support controllers in a more generic way.
My wireless 360 pads are still going strong on my pc so no need to upgrade just yet. I really hope that Microsoft doesn't take this rumored greedy approach though.
GoofsterStud
Member
Hmmmm....
I don't understand the move.
So now DS4 becomes the PC controller of choice. After getting use to the controller you prefer it and perform better at it, which would reinforce going PS4 for multiplats even further.
What is the logic?
I don't understand the move.
So now DS4 becomes the PC controller of choice. After getting use to the controller you prefer it and perform better at it, which would reinforce going PS4 for multiplats even further.
What is the logic?
Why not a DS4 (or DS3 for that matter)?
IMHO, they had the superior PC controller since the PS3 went on sale -- or certainly since the good DS3 drivers were released.
The last time I tried the PS4 controller (around January), the performance was pretty sub-par. Issues with lag, spazzing, games not supporting it, drivers fucking up etc. - it's not even close to the 360 PC controller experience, which is the same as on console.
Seeing a lot of people jumping to a conclusions from an article on a completely unknown site. Clickbait until confirmed.
IF it is true, then I'm pretty sure we just see the 360 pad stay as the defacto PC controller. Those things are cheap, and still arguably the best controller around.
IF it is true, then I'm pretty sure we just see the 360 pad stay as the defacto PC controller. Those things are cheap, and still arguably the best controller around.
poopninjamvc3mk
I sucked six dicks to get this tag.
Terrible adapter, speaking from a tourney mindset.
Dr. Buni
Member
They are the worst thing to happen to gaming as a whole, not only PC gaming. Terrible company indeed.
Anyways, I was really hoping to buy a Xbox One controller to use on my new PC. Never mind that, will pick a new Xbox 360 controller or maybe a Dual Shock 4.
Cizeta-Moroder
Banned
Not a good thing.
It was "standardized" enough as it was. Xinput has a lot less features than Dinput.
At least they bring some games to the PC? Yes it could be more, but it is a business and guess what? Money needs to be earned and your products need to be sold.
They could also just say; fuck the PC and release their games on the Xbox One or Xbox 360 only like Sony and Nintendo do. Maybe try to open your eyes a bit, it isn't as simple as it sounds when you provide an OS for the PC and a console. Decisions need to be made to get the best out of it.
I highly doubt this rumor is true and wasn't there a youtube vid already online that showed the Xbox One controller working with a PC game? And didn't MS use PC's during the E3 as people were claiming? Let's just wait and see what happens before we start making all sorts of accusations again. If it does happen to be true, we shouldn't hold back and show them how unhappy we are, but we haven't reached that point yet.
Is it wireless on pc?
Bluetooth, yes.
cascardian
Member
This has been a long time coming and was something I've suspected for a while now. There was simply no way a mere controller input driver based on an already supported and integrated API such as XInput would have taken this long to create. Remember, various people are already reverse-engineering it, but there are apparently some legal issues. If MS really goes ahead and does as the OP describes, I'd imagine a third-party driver will eventually find its way out to the internet out of sheer spite.
If, as some here seem to suggest, this rumour was simply clickbait, then that's a good way to kill your new site immediately. Lying about non-existent sources is a pretty egregious offence, so I'd hope no one with a new site to promote would want that.
If, as some here seem to suggest, this rumour was simply clickbait, then that's a good way to kill your new site immediately. Lying about non-existent sources is a pretty egregious offence, so I'd hope no one with a new site to promote would want that.
brotkasten
Member
Negative news seem to get more traction around here, even if they're unconfirmed, from an unknown source or misleading (latest DriveClub thread for example).
Like it was said before, people in here eat it up, because Microsoft behaved like a bunch of incompetent assholes before. That doesn't make this rumor more believable, though. The way it was written should give it away.
hooijdonk17
Member
Honestly, who gives a shit? The 360 controller is superior.
The Incredible Muffin
Member
Is it better than a wired X360 controller? Nope,,, prob never will be. Not unless you want to fiddle with third party software.
But that's the point,,, X360 controller is just plug and play for most games now.
But but but... $500,000 went into the Xbone controller... it has to be better!
Doctoglethorpe
Member
But if you were only ever going to buy the controller and not the whole console then this changes nothing for you. You just buy the PC version instead of the console version.
A lot of people don't seem to realize the convenience of a wireless controller on PC. I don't want to plug in a controller over USB. Dualshock4 will not and should not be the new standard.
What this really paves the way for is the Steam controller, which hopefully won't have shit drivers (Xinput is awful save for plug and play support--otherwise, no configuration and no dead zone settings for analog sticks unless programmed in by game developers).
The Steam controller drivers will hopefully be plug and play and open source and work for a variety of controllers and we can leave Microsoft out of the equation.
What this really paves the way for is the Steam controller, which hopefully won't have shit drivers (Xinput is awful save for plug and play support--otherwise, no configuration and no dead zone settings for analog sticks unless programmed in by game developers).
The Steam controller drivers will hopefully be plug and play and open source and work for a variety of controllers and we can leave Microsoft out of the equation.
I played Titanfall on PC with my Xbox360 pad and on Xbox One with my One pad and the One pad was much better.
PoloBlue28
Banned
The only reason you needed a dongle for the Wireless 360 Controller was because it did not send data over the charging cable.
The X1 controller does, so I think this rumour itself is bullshit. Even if MS doesn't make the drivers, everyone has a micro USB cable and third party drivers would be made sooner or later.
The X1 controller does, so I think this rumour itself is bullshit. Even if MS doesn't make the drivers, everyone has a micro USB cable and third party drivers would be made sooner or later.
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Also when the cable is plugged in, all wireless communication stops. This would mean that the pad could not be charged while playing. I suppose you could use batteries but why would they pass up the opportunity to sell a play and charge kit.
CouchMaster
Member
Yes. Its standard BT so works wirelessly, uses touchpad to navigate menus, and best of all, you can change the color and intensity of that light or turn it off completely. In a way it works better with PC than it does with PS4.
Fixed2BeBroken
Member
i dont think I would enjoy valve's controller just because of the weird button layout.
Captain Tuttle
Member
that stick placement tho
rakkadakka
Member
Sooo it looks like this Titanfall Xbone controller is going on Ebay/Craigslist.
ElRenoRaven
Gold Member
No big deal. I like the 360 controller better personally. So I'll continue to use that on my PC anyway.
You could not plug in any Dinput controller and have it automatically map the appropriate buttons. You had to do all that yourself.
Dredd97
Member
Nothing wrong with the stick placement at all....
DarkoMaledictus
Tier Whore
Nintendo doesn't license a windows operating system for pcs or Directx 12 for windows 8.1...
Felix Lighter
Member
In a perfect world, the Xbox 360 controller would have simply used DirectInput instead of Xinput but you can't deny that standardized pad controls became more common after the GFW certifications were introduced.
Honestly, that's pretty stupid to do. We all knew it would need an adapter to connect wirelessly. And the wired drivers should get released regardless.
Still, if the rumor is true (big if), then just buy the package with the adapter and sell the controller. What's the big deal?
I found this was released yesterday:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGXHejtLeII
Haven't tested yet, not so sure about using on W7, judging from the comments theres a little of an issue with W7.
I'm hoping it has trigger rumble support as really wanna test that, ha ha, but I'm guessing not.
EDIT: Should have put this up, seeing I guess people would find it hard to trust a youtube link as being proof enough, ha ha.
Came from this guy apparently: http://lucasassis.com/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGXHejtLeII
Haven't tested yet, not so sure about using on W7, judging from the comments theres a little of an issue with W7.
I'm hoping it has trigger rumble support as really wanna test that, ha ha, but I'm guessing not.
EDIT: Should have put this up, seeing I guess people would find it hard to trust a youtube link as being proof enough, ha ha.
Came from this guy apparently: http://lucasassis.com/
Metallix87
Member
A lot of people would disagree with you on that.
CrunchyFrog
Member
BTW, DS4 works great on PC, both as generic controller and via that DS4Tool app that emulates X360 gamepad.
was just gonna say, hey sony, here's a nice and easy way to get a couple million more controller sales over the life of the console by swooping into PC gamepad market. I would certainly pick up a few in that case.
Sigh not this again... I will never understand this argument, ha ha.
Why is it fine for the right analogue to be at the bottom, but heaven forbid the left on being at the bottom. Makes no sense to me at all. The thumbs touching each other is a valid reason, but seems its no longer a problem for DS4.
Isn't really a problem whether they choose to put analogues for me (...Within reason of course, ha ha), I can adjust to any controller just fine. Analogue placements arent enough to make me prefer another controller outright. Dependent on comfortability mostly and perhaps features.
MDSLKTR
Member
Define a lot.
Have not experienced any lag or 'spazzing' but the issue of games not supporting it is entirely to do with the fact that it uses its own interface, sort of like how when you first got your x360 pad and it didn't work with any of your old games - Except because DS4 doesn't use an entirely new interface it does work with some existing games.
It will never use XInput (360 pad interface) as a native solution though due to a variety of reasons, so you'll likely have to deal with driver hacks if you want it to emulate a 360 pad. Or just wait for games to start supporting it properly.
Edit - Also for the folks saying just use Valves controller you should know it works best as a KB+M replacement, not necessarily as a joystick replacement. Different games will always favor different control interfaces, KB/M, Steam pad, DS4.