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wrowa
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(08-05-2017, 11:49 AM)
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Originally Posted by Wamb0wneD

I didn't want to chime into that thread but I'm really curious... I don't get what "games DMs" are. The only tweet I can make something out of is the one with sending nudes. Is that what he asked women for? did he blackmail them or something?

I feel dumb and old for not getting what's going on in that thread. I hate twitter.

"every woman in games'" = every woman in the games industry
"DM" = direct message, Twitter's version of PMs
HazySaiyan
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(08-05-2017, 11:51 AM)
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Yeah like others have said, JonTron. Used to love his content then he goes full on white supremacist. I can't support someone with views like that
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(08-05-2017, 11:53 AM)
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Originally Posted by brianmcdoogle

Probably when I first heard about Woody Allen and Polanski?

those two, Mel Gibson and to a much much lesser extent because of the lower severity Clint Eastwood (cuz of his corny speech to a chair at the RNC)

I still like all of them in media tho.

John Wayne too.
Bits N Pieces
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(08-05-2017, 11:57 AM)
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Saville. There can be no bigger fall from grace than that cunt.

He was a hero to me as a wee guy growing up :(
CaviarMeths
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(08-05-2017, 11:57 AM)
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Originally Posted by SpaceWolf

Orson Scott Card. He was something of a hero to me when I was younger, on the account of the fact I used to cherish one of his books on writing.

Oh, Orson, you silly fuck.

Right, Card. I was struggling to think of one that affected me personally.

I love Ender's Game, the Speaker trilogy, and even the Shadow saga. His message in all of those books was always consistent too -- one of understanding and tolerance of the 'other.' To find out that he was such an intolerant prick in real life hurt.

That said, all of the child wedding stuff in his books was always... weird. When I found out about his real life views, it was a bit of an 'a-ha' moment.
G.O.O.
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(08-05-2017, 11:58 AM)
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Originally Posted by HiResDes

He has too many other redeeming qualities, no one is perfect jeez

Sure, and it probably comes from a good place, but it's still a deadly opinion to have. So, disappointed.
Mifec
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(08-05-2017, 12:05 PM)
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The anti vaxxer reveals in this thread for me just now :(

Man Godstiny really opened a lot of people's eyes to Jon "wealthy blacks commit more crimes then poor whites" Jaffari aka Genetron.



Teren_Kanan
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(08-05-2017, 12:18 PM)
Read the whole OP and still have zero fucking idea what this thread is about or what the fuck Milkshake Duck means.
Jackpot
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(08-05-2017, 12:19 PM)
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Originally Posted by HiResDes

He has too many other redeeming qualities, no one is perfect jeez


... Same as above

He uses money and influence to help more children die of painful diseases.
chaobreaker
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(08-05-2017, 12:19 PM)
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Originally Posted by zashga

Koichi Sugiyama is one of mine. He wrote so many classic tunes for Dragon Quest, but he's also an apologist/denier for Japanese atrocities in WW2. Puts a bit of a damper on my enjoyment of his work.

Isn't he also super possessive about his DQ music rights and causes ports of DQ games to use downgraded music?
G.O.O.
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(08-05-2017, 12:26 PM)
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Originally Posted by Teren_Kanan

Read the whole OP and still have zero fucking idea what this thread is about or what the fuck Milkshake Duck means.

a celebrity you had a high opinion of until you realized you couldn't align with his/her views and that spoiled everything you liked about him/her

like chick-fil-a but with a person
Wamb0wneD
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(08-05-2017, 12:30 PM)
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Originally Posted by wrowa

"every woman in games'" = every woman in the games industry
"DM" = direct message, Twitter's version of PMs

Ooooh that makes sense. So he was a creep towards a lot of women in the gaming industry.
Roi
(08-05-2017, 12:32 PM)
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Thought Amir0x was a good mod, until I read he is a pedophile with a computer full of child porn. Apparently he also beat his mother.. Yikes.
Syder
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(08-05-2017, 12:34 PM)
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Never had a milkshake duck because I'm just not into idolising people I've never met.
McMoneyman
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(08-05-2017, 12:38 PM)
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Listening to the Lostprophets is pretty much impossible after all the horrible shit Ian Watkins did.


Also someone mentioned James Woods and that I would agree with too.
Sojgat
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(08-05-2017, 12:39 PM)
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Mel Gibson.

I love him as an actor, but he turned out to be a piece of shit human being.
Aaron Strife
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(08-05-2017, 12:40 PM)
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The answer is a bit generic, but JonTron definitely fits this bill for me.

In fact a lot of the YouTube animators' community is this, whether it's full bigotry (hotdiggitydemon) or mere namby-pamby both sidesism (Harry Partridge). The fact that no one on YouTube ever wants to address any of this is pretty depressing.

If I ever found out Danny from the Game Grumps was a big pos that would be soul crushing, he added a lot of heart to the show.
ahoyhoy
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(08-05-2017, 12:46 PM)
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Notch continually devolving into a bigger toolbag the more success Minecraft gets is certainly disconcerting.

Dude brought joy to hundreds of millions of kids with his crazy unconventional experiment, and he hates so many of them.
MineralCraver420
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(08-05-2017, 12:46 PM)
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Its honestly happened with so many youtubers that I have assumed that they're all shitheads except superbunnyhop he's alright. YMS, Jontron, hotdiggitydemon, Dunkey, Crowbcat; all varying degrees of shitty.
BrutishMrFish
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(08-05-2017, 12:46 PM)
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Originally Posted by Dr. Carroll

This developer actively hated them for their perfectly legitimate choice of failed businessman candidate.

No, the developer actively hated them for their choice of voting for possibly the most racist, sexist, xenophobic, dishonest, and downright stupid presidential candidate we've had in decades.

Trump being a shitty businessman is probably one of the better things you can say about him.
DrKelpo
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(08-05-2017, 12:47 PM)
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Originally Posted by Aaron Strife

If I ever found out Danny from the Game Grumps was a big pos that would be soul crushing, he added a lot of heart to the show.

don't even joke about that

so what did threedog and crowbcat do?
fhqwhgads
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(08-05-2017, 12:50 PM)
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Originally Posted by Aaron Strife

The answer is a bit generic, but JonTron definitely fits this bill for me.

In fact a lot of the YouTube animators' community is this, whether it's full bigotry (hotdiggitydemon) or mere namby-pamby both sidesism (Harry Partridge). The fact that no one on YouTube ever wants to address any of this is pretty depressing.

If I ever found out Danny from the Game Grumps was a big pos that would be soul crushing, he added a lot of heart to the show.

Even though it's not as extreme as Jon's case, it still sucks to see HDD making an ass of himself on twitter with shitty comments or having Partridge making really bad criticisms of "censorship" where it only fuels the "SJWs are ruining media!!!" conspiracy. Really is a shame they have the humour and talent only to use it for the worst things.
thebeeks
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(08-05-2017, 12:51 PM)
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Originally Posted by LewieP

Penny-Arcade.

Oh my god, yeah. I warily stuck around during the dickwolves thing only to then find out Mike is transphobic. Stopped reading the webcomic and sold all my PA books/merch. I know there was an apology and a donation to charity and all that, but fool me twice, shame on me.
Dyle
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(08-05-2017, 12:51 PM)
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H3H3 for me, they were the only group I've ever really cared about that truly soured me on them. Admittedly their case came mostly from ignorance rather than genuine hatred, but the quick succession of defending Pewdiepie, not saying anything about JonTron, and that blatantly false attack on the WSJ's reporters made it impossible for me to respect them anymore. Their downfall, where uninformed pseudo-political content became the norm rather than the exception in their work, has basically led me to stop watching all entertainment youtubers and focus on more academic/curated videos on the site.
D4Danger
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(08-05-2017, 12:53 PM)
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Originally Posted by McMoneyman

Listening to the Lostprophets is pretty much impossible after all the horrible shit Ian Watkins did.

that's definitely one. They had a couple of hits and used to get quite a bit of play in that nostalgic Linkin Park way but now they have been purged from history. I feel bad for the other guys who probably could've lived on that success for years to come.
Coketruck
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(08-05-2017, 12:54 PM)
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Originally Posted by McMoneyman

Listening to the Lostprophets is pretty much impossible after all the horrible shit Ian Watkins did.

First thing I thought of. "Start Something" was in my permanent CD rotation for a long time, but now I can't listen to any of their stuff anymore. Dumbass stuff like being anti-vax is one thing, but actions like Watkins' are beyond the pale.
tomtom94
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(08-05-2017, 12:55 PM)
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I stopped listening to Disturbed when David Draiman came out as pro-Gamergate.
Horp
(08-05-2017, 12:58 PM)
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Isnt the meme about something/someone that rise to fame quickly and then superquickly is found to have opinion x/y or has a bad history with x/y. Like Cosby shouldnt apply, right?
DukeBobby
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(08-05-2017, 12:58 PM)
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I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Ian Watkins yet. I was not really a fan of Lostprophets, but I never would have thought in a million years that he was capable of such evil acts.

EDIT: Ah, I see it's been mentioned already.
JonnyDBrit
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(08-05-2017, 12:59 PM)
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Originally Posted by DukeBobby

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Ian Watkins yet. I was not really a fan of Lostprophets, but I never would have thought in a million years that he was capable of such evil acts.

McMoneyman brought him up. Scroll a few posts up.

Edit: I see you edited as well!
zeemumu
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(08-05-2017, 01:00 PM)
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Probably JonTron. I do think some of his videos are actually pretty hilarious so that kinda sucked.
wideface
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(08-05-2017, 01:07 PM)
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Wait, what did Nick Robinson do? What is he accused of? Edit: Nvm, did some research.

JonTron. His first videos were pretty funny although I've never been really a fan.
My ex-girlfriend used to love him, makes me wonder what she thinks of him now.
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ArgyleReptile
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(08-05-2017, 01:09 PM)
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Cee-Lo Green
Mel Gibson
Jontron

Those are the ones I can think of. At least, before this thread...
Silvard
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(08-05-2017, 01:10 PM)
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Originally Posted by Dr. Carroll

Attacking feminism is not equivalent to attacking women. Feminism is a political ideology that has evolved through a number of iterations and splintered off into a range of sub-groups with wildly conflicting beliefs.

Despite you insisting such, someone who claims to "hate feminism" does not automatically hate women. They could hate feminism for any number of reasons, including, as I mentioned earlier, the tendency of modern feminism to gravitate towards being pro-abortion and being openly hostile to women who are anti-abortion. People who are alienated by so-called "modern feminism" are left with the choice of trying to "reclaim" feminism or outright reject it and embrace the label "anti-feminist".

Only a fraction of women in America -- around 1/4 to 1/3 -- identify as feminist. They don't view feminism as the inherently good pursuit of equality between men and women. They view it as something far more politically tainted. With interpretations of what is needed for equality that go places they're not comfortable with. Parallels can be drawn to a wide range of outwardly positive political movements that over the years have gathered so much baggage people are uneasy about identifying with the label.

For a lot of women, finding out someone is a feminist is their "Oh, dear, another extremist -- shame, she seemed so sane" milkshake duck moment. That's worth chewing over.

Transparent as fuck.

Anyone arguing with this poster is wasting their time, they're here to peddle false equivalence.
PaulExcellent
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(08-05-2017, 01:12 PM)
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Nick Robinson.
His videos got me to try out some games I would have never looked at, listen to some interesting podcasts/videos, and he just seemed like an overall cool dude.
CoolGamesInc. even gave me some great ideas for projects that I kinda don't want to make anymore after all this.

Also, JonTron and Tom DeLonge. One is a fucking idiot and the other one is lost in alien research. Why?! -_-

Originally Posted by MineralCraver420

Its honestly happened with so many youtubers that I have assumed that they're all shitheads except superbunnyhop he's alright. YMS, Jontron, hotdiggitydemon, Dunkey, Crowbcat; all varying degrees of shitty.

What did HDD and YMS do?
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funkystudent
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(08-05-2017, 01:16 PM)
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These days I just assume every pro wrestler is racist or homophobic as default and just hope they prove otherwise over time.
tomtom94
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(08-05-2017, 01:16 PM)
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Originally Posted by Coketruck

First thing I thought of. "Start Something" was in my permanent CD rotation for a long time, but now I can't listen to any of their stuff anymore. Dumbass stuff like being anti-vax is one thing, but actions like Watkins' are beyond the pale.

Hot damn, this. I was really, really into Lostprophets for a while. I assume they can't re-record the songs either because Watkins still gets a songwriting credit.
Frodo
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(08-05-2017, 01:18 PM)
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Has anyone mentioned Azalea Banks?

Came across 212 and thought "omg, this is a bop". From there got into Broke With Expensive Taste and I absolutely love the album. But then I came across her, now banned, Twitter account, and she is a mess. Not only racist, but homophobic and constantly finding reasons to get into a beef with someone.
Admiral Woofington
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(08-05-2017, 01:19 PM)
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Put me on the Jontron train.

I was even turning my head away awkwardly at some of his other shit saying I could separate art from the artist. Others called me out on my bullshit but they didn't realize just how much I loved his content for years and years.

Then the full on white supremacist shit came and I just couldn't ignore it anymore. Was it worth it Jon? You gained absolutely nothing from this besides lose the support of many from the industry, and gained the support of edgy white kids who think you should be able to say what you want online.
How About No
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(08-05-2017, 01:26 PM)
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JonTron

Tom Cruise (replace Racist with crazy scientologist, but I still like him as an actot)
DontBeThatGuy
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(08-05-2017, 01:29 PM)
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I used to think James Woods was cool as shit but NOPE, he's a piece of shit. Adam Baldwin too. I mean, My Bodyguard turned into that?

There's lots of them.
J_ToSaveTheDay
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(08-05-2017, 01:30 PM)
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JonTron was my first gaming-related milkshake duck.

My first real-world example was arriving at high school to find a colleague of mine that I had been going to school with since elementary school under heat for publishing a "Hitler was a great leader because he really rallied his country together (but let me conveniently ignore the means by which he rose to political power and followed through on ambitions of racial extermination)" style article in the school newspaper. He vehemently defended it in the aftermath. Really tried to make it seem rosy and neutral like he did some astonishingly noble thing rallying post-WWI Germany to greatness by pure virtue of leadership.

I wasn't close friends with him for that entire time, but he never, ever struck me as much of a white supremacist up until that point. I just kind of completely cut association with him then and haven't heard from or seen him since graduating high school.
Snowman Prophet of Doom
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(08-05-2017, 01:32 PM)
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Ezra Pound was sort of the original milkshake duck. One of the more famous poets of the first half of the 20th century, then became a massive proponent of fascism and antisemite and ended up being locked up in a mental institution for 13 years after the war was over for having actively undertaken anti-U.S. government measures in Europe during the war.
Incendiary
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(08-05-2017, 01:32 PM)
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I remember when I found out that Bill Murray was allegedly a spousal abuser...that was a punch in the gut.
Lightning_Roller
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(08-05-2017, 01:37 PM)
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Bill Cosby

Mel Gibson

Jontron especially for me. Yeeeesh, that was horrific what he said.

......


Jim Carrey is an anti-vaxxer!?! And Robert DeNiro? Damn, that's sad.
torre_avenue
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(08-05-2017, 01:38 PM)
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Kanye.

It was one thing to offend America by "attacking" America's sweetheart.

It's another to ally yourself with an idiot who would actively harm devoted members of your fan base for no reason other than they exist. That picture with him & Trump and the signed Time cover is going to haunt him to his grave, almost deservedly so.
Zepp Twofist
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(08-05-2017, 01:39 PM)
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Originally Posted by Snowman Prophet of Doom

Ezra Pound was sort of the original milkshake duck. One of the more famous poets of the first half of the 20th century, then became a massive proponent of fascism and antisemite and ended up being locked up in a mental institution for 13 years after the war was over for having actively undertaken anti-U.S. government measures in Europe during the war.

Knut Hamsum, winner of the Nobel Prize in literature, was a huge fan of Nazi Germany and even sent Goebbels his Nobel medal as a gift. He also met with many Nazi leaders including Hitler. After the war he was tried for treason, but it was dismissed due to his mental decline.
chaobreaker
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(08-05-2017, 01:41 PM)
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Originally Posted by Dyle

H3H3 for me, they were the only group I've ever really cared about that truly soured me on them. Admittedly their case came mostly from ignorance rather than genuine hatred, but the quick succession of defending Pewdiepie, not saying anything about JonTron, and that blatantly false attack on the WSJ's reporters made it impossible for me to respect them anymore. Their downfall, where uninformed pseudo-political content became the norm rather than the exception in their work, has basically led me to stop watching all entertainment youtubers and focus on more academic/curated videos on the site.

You know, this is me as well. All my favourite YouTube channels these days are the thoughtful personalities who are making video essays from the most mundane to the most compelling subjects out there. Extra Creditz, Lindsey Ellis, Nerdwriter, kaptiankristian, Idea Channel, Folding Ideas, Arlo, Hbomberguy, Errant Signal, Ethos, CGPGrey, Noah Cadwell-Gervais, MrBTounge, and Innuendo Studios.

All those channels are great. I mostly moved on from all those hot take gamer guy comedic channels a long time ago but still like the occasional chill LP group like Vinesauce and SBFP.
BLOODED_hands
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(08-05-2017, 01:42 PM)
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I mean.... I knew Knight of OHN is a pos, but what did threedog do and say? Fuck that hurts if OHN is just a shitty group. I always thought threedog was the more sane one out of the group.
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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(08-05-2017, 01:44 PM)
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My first personal experience was in high school. Had a female friend in math class who was really sweet to me. One day while the teacher was preparing for the day's lesson, A male classmate that sat near me made a heart gesture with his hands to me as a joke and I did the same in return. I then noticed that the girl saw this and gave me the dirtiest look which told so much about her. I think this happened the same year I realized I was gay, so that really hurt and I couldn't look at her the same way.

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