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Shig
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(10-07-2017, 06:40 PM)
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Originally Posted by Tagyhag

Janet Hubert as Vivian.

Daphne Reid as a person.

Yeah, pretty much. I like the fire that OG Vivian brought to the show, but it sounds like once the cameras stopped, it kept going and tended to burn the people around her. You gonna be an actor, you need to have an off switch for that sort of intensity.
sixteen-bit
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(10-07-2017, 06:40 PM)
Original Vivian was the best!
Africanus
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(10-07-2017, 06:40 PM)
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New Vivian as a person is amazing. Got a lot of flack back in the day in Chicago for being Northwestern’s first black homecoming queen I believe. Has good morals.

As a character, well ahh.
Galang
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(10-07-2017, 06:42 PM)
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Original for sure. They should have just wrote her out the series instead of replacing her. I hate seeing flat out replacements in long-running series. I remember they made an excuse for the mom in That's so Raven for like two seasons saying she was studying in another country or something lol. Annoying, but it works better this way.
Moltisanti
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(10-07-2017, 06:43 PM)
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og viv, dont think ive ever heard a single person prefer the other one
theaffection
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(10-07-2017, 06:46 PM)

Originally Posted by Moltisanti

og viv, dont think ive ever heard a single person prefer the other one

Hah yeah me neither. That would be weird *scratches neck nervously*
SomedayTheFire
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(10-07-2017, 06:47 PM)
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New Vivian is a better person, so yeah.
Boombloxer
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(10-07-2017, 06:54 PM)
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New Vivian.

Not even close to me.
Ushojax
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(10-07-2017, 06:55 PM)
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The OG was a great character, a strong, educated woman but also a great parent with a wry sense of humour. The second version was just a piece of furniture, she was a set dressing and nothing more.
HomerSimpson-Man
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(10-07-2017, 07:02 PM)
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This is a question?

The actress being a better person or not is irrelevant if we are talking about the actual onscreen character that is being portrayed. Old Vivian was a strong main character with story arcs and intensity that blended with the other characters beautifully.

New Vivian was unfortunately sidelined as a character not giving the actress a chance to take the helms as the character, which is unfair.
Rumblebones
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(10-07-2017, 07:02 PM)
They're both great.
Line_HTX
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(10-07-2017, 07:08 PM)
I liked the original Aunt Viv, but damn, I had no idea that shit went down.

That's a shame.
Davidion
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(10-07-2017, 07:24 PM)
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"EAST L.A.?!?!?!?!"

Originally Posted by Tagyhag

Janet Hubert as Vivian.

Daphne Reid as a person.

I'll go with this.



This thread is great, btw. NeoGAFonvideogamesvsNeoGAFonpornAuntviv.jpg
TP-DK
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(10-07-2017, 07:26 PM)
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Originally Posted by royalan


Original Aunt Viv had a personality, stated interests and even her own story arcs. She was an educated career woman who chose to stay home, but you saw glimpses of this in her character. It wasn't something that was just said in the dialogue, as shown in one of the most memorable scenes from the show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RB7zRhENCw

I can just imagine her doing those snaps with her finger at Will, each time she finished a scene.
Seesaw15
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(10-07-2017, 07:30 PM)
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Old only because those kids were too dark otherwise.

As a person new Viv.
old manatee
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(10-07-2017, 07:31 PM)
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It was a seamless transition.
Davidion
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(10-07-2017, 07:33 PM)
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Originally Posted by royalan


Original Aunt Viv had a personality, stated interests and even her own story arcs. She was an educated career woman who chose to stay home, but you saw glimpses of this in her character. It wasn't something that was just said in the dialogue, as shown in one of the most memorable scenes from the show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RB7zRhENCw

I didn't realize that when she starts dancing, the audience actually takes a second to realize what's going on. You can hear a "heh" in the background before people start hollering.

Could be a laugh track signal, but that's great.
Eggbok
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(10-07-2017, 07:36 PM)
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OH AUNT VIC >>>>

Originally Posted by zeemumu

Come on, now

ICONIC.

lucebuce12
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(10-07-2017, 07:38 PM)
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OG Viv was best Viv.
PSqueak
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(10-07-2017, 07:38 PM)
I feel the writing they did for Janet Hubert was much better, the character herself was stronger too, i always wonder why they decided to mellow the character out after the switch, maybe to spite Hubert?
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(10-07-2017, 07:38 PM)
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Original all the day.

But we had this thread before and it was glorious.
Dizzy-4U
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(10-07-2017, 07:38 PM)
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Doesn't matter, aunt Helen was the best aunt.
DeathyBoy
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(10-07-2017, 07:39 PM)
New Vivian.

But it's pretty much two shows connected by a title. Once she left the show went full crazy awesome, shattering the fourth wall and going from a solid sitcom to something that was both hilarious and genuinely profound.
pdog128
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(10-07-2017, 07:40 PM)

Originally Posted by zeemumu

Come on, now

Came for this.
Faddy
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(10-07-2017, 07:40 PM)
OG Vivian was great. She made the whole premise make sense, she was a much more political character than uncle Phil and was damn fierce.

With new Viv they took a lot of personality out of the character and made the show more mainstream in appeal.
King Tubby
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(10-07-2017, 07:41 PM)
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https://youtu.be/_NrsaTwx3OA?t=111
Hollywood Duo
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(10-07-2017, 07:46 PM)
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OG Viv was legit my favorite character from the series.
BlazinSkatinAxel
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(10-07-2017, 07:51 PM)
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Old Aunt Viv's actress is a Capricorn. And if you know some Capricorns, even when they are wrong, they are still right. She reminds me of an ex.
Mechanized
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(10-07-2017, 07:52 PM)
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Both were pretty fantastic honestly.
pokeystaples
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(10-07-2017, 08:02 PM)

Originally Posted by BlazinSkatinAxel

Old Aunt Viv's actress is a Capricorn. And if you know some Capricorns, even when they are wrong, they are still right. She reminds me of an ex.

As a Cap...I cosign this. Took me a long time to learn when to shut the hell up and be "right" by my damn self.

Also, OG Viv is the best Viv, but new Viv was the better person. She was just milquetoast af.
PSqueak
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(10-07-2017, 08:04 PM)

Originally Posted by BlazinSkatinAxel

Old Aunt Viv's actress is a Capricorn. And if you know some Capricorns, even when they are wrong, they are still right. She reminds me of an ex.

Can't tell if you're being serious or you're referencing that episode where Will and Uncle Phil are hired by a highly superstitious person.
Sanjuro
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(10-07-2017, 08:05 PM)
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At least there aren't two Uncle Phils to choose from..
Kyuur
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(10-07-2017, 08:05 PM)
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My SO and I started binging through FP on Netflix and quit the season New Vivian showed up, so yeah.
spindashing
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(10-07-2017, 08:06 PM)
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OG Aunt Viv slays the other, BUT New Aunt Viv is alright. The difference in quality isn't as severe as the Old Harriette Winslow vs New Harriette Winslow, though.

Originally Posted by Dizzy-4U

Doesn't matter, aunt Helen was the best aunt.

Truth. I love that actress.
CarpeDeezNutz
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(10-07-2017, 08:07 PM)
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I liked both but would go with OG Aunt Viv.

Edit: I guess its off netflix? Was going to watch it again but its not on there.
mrmickfran
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(10-07-2017, 08:07 PM)
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New Vivian was fiiiiiinnee.

But old Vivian was a wayyy better actress.
Tekniqs
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(10-07-2017, 08:08 PM)
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you know ms banks...since you had that baby, something's different about you
spindashing
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(10-07-2017, 08:10 PM)
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Fun fact, the actress who played the "New" Aunt Vivian was Daphne Maxwell Reid. She's married to Tim Reid, who you might know as...



Ray Campbell from Sister, Sister!
Haly
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(10-07-2017, 08:11 PM)
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Old.

Old might've had a little too much sass for Will Smith but new is just milquetoast.
Sanjuro
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(10-07-2017, 08:11 PM)
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Originally Posted by spindashing

Fun fact, the actress who played the "New" Aunt Vivian was Daphne Maxwell Reid. She's married to Tim Reid, who you might know as...



Ray Campbell from Sister, Sister!

You're a Smart Guy.
Bizazedo
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(10-07-2017, 08:14 PM)
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Originally Posted by King Tubby

https://youtu.be/_NrsaTwx3OA?t=111

Came to post this, thank you.
mrmickfran
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(10-07-2017, 08:17 PM)
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Originally Posted by Tekniqs

you know ms banks...since you had that baby, something's different about you

HomerSimpson-Man
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(10-07-2017, 08:19 PM)
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Originally Posted by DeathyBoy

New Vivian.

But it's pretty much two shows connected by a title. Once she left the show went full crazy awesome, shattering the fourth wall and going from a solid sitcom to something that was both hilarious and genuinely profound.

They also strengthen the relationship with Will and Uncle Phil a lot too, which was great. Uncle Phil treated Will as his own son and not just as "Uncle Phil".
Ferr986
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(10-07-2017, 08:21 PM)
I feel like New Viv problems were more about the writers and not the actress.

At the end yeah, Old Viv was better as a character, but partly because she was better written IMO.
SamuelSupreme
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(10-07-2017, 08:26 PM)
OG Aunt Viv.
The Abominable Snowman
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(10-07-2017, 08:29 PM)
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I don't remember anything about the newer Aunt Viv. I mean I remember her speaking but she had no presence.

OG Viv made me want to pay attention to her.
Anung
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(10-07-2017, 08:32 PM)
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OG Aunt Viv.

New one felt underwritten to me and barely a character.
NipplesAndToes23
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(10-07-2017, 08:45 PM)
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This will be an unanimously opinionated thread. New Vivian wasn't even a character really.
ISOM
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(10-07-2017, 08:46 PM)
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The original had personality. The new one just fades into the background.
inner-G
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(10-07-2017, 08:47 PM)
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There was a second aunt Viv? Doesn’t ring a bell

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