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Linkura
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(10-12-2017, 09:56 PM)
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Originally Posted by FrankCanada97

They weighted the four categories equally.

Yup, their weighting is total shit.
LegendofDragoonLives
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(10-12-2017, 09:57 PM)
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How is Chicago safe lol? WTF
Boy Wander
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(10-12-2017, 09:57 PM)
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LA being safer than London surprised me.
Sunster
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(10-12-2017, 09:59 PM)
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Not for women who want to ride a train without being groped.
Waddle Dee
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(10-12-2017, 10:00 PM)
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Originally Posted by explodet

The safest city in the world, even though there's this one area of the city about ten square blocks large where some asshole with an eyepatch and snakeskin jacket will show up out of nowhere to beat the crap out of you.

Damn it I thought I was gonna be creative by posting Yakzua shit.
dreams
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(10-12-2017, 10:01 PM)
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Originally Posted by Austriacus

Arent there women only carriages?

Granted that it has to come to that is an issue but its a separate one from safety.

...How is that separate from safety?
Sunster
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(10-12-2017, 10:02 PM)
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Originally Posted by Austriacus

Arent there women only carriages?

Granted that it has to come to that is an issue but its a separate one from safety.

there are not nearly enough for all women and they are only available a peak hours.
schwabdizzle
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(10-12-2017, 10:04 PM)
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Originally Posted by LegendofDragoonLives

How is Chicago safe lol? WTF

Right, especially with gun violence being an epidemic and I live in St. Louis.
Dynamite Shikoku
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(10-12-2017, 10:05 PM)
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Yay 7th safest
Sblargh
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(10-12-2017, 10:13 PM)
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Originally Posted by ldcommando

Rio de Janeiro at 37th and safer than So Paulo is going to make so many brazilians salty it's not even funny. Still, LMAO!

Paulistas do love to end their lives early in car accidents.
neojubei
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(10-12-2017, 10:18 PM)
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Originally Posted by Danneee

I can vouch for Tokyo. Awesome city and never felt unsafe, not even in the middle of the night strolling through alleys.

Same here. I love going to Tokyo and dont have to deal with being mugged if walking the streets alone.
Joeytj
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(10-12-2017, 10:25 PM)
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Originally Posted by LegendofDragoonLives

How is Chicago safe lol? WTF

Yeah, I've seen your crime statistics. They're not as bad as where I live or other cities in Mexico, ha!

And we feel pretty safe overall.
Subpar Spatula
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(10-12-2017, 10:32 PM)
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I don't trust Japan. Like, I trust Japan but I also don't trust Japan.

They lie a lot to keep a good image.
RoKKeR
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(10-12-2017, 10:33 PM)
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Can confirm, as long as you're not an idiot.
Switch Back 9
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(10-12-2017, 10:34 PM)
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Barring certain areas I've never once felt worried or threatened walking the streets of Toronto.

North York, Rexdale and parts of Scarborough scary though.
FrankCanada97
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(10-12-2017, 10:47 PM)
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Originally Posted by Linkura

Yup, their weighting is total shit.

Yeah strange weighting, I can't seem to see how they weighted each of the subindices.
therealist
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(10-12-2017, 10:48 PM)
Tokyo is nice but its also extremely homogeneous and xenophobic. I'd take a higher chance of getting mugged over living in a place like that any day.
Agent_ShortBus
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(10-12-2017, 10:51 PM)
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Sounds about right. Friend and I were super fucked up one night in Tokyo and pretty much blacked out and fell asleep in a kids park? Woke up and I still had all my shit including all my money I brought for the trip, also met and hung out with this Japanese salary man who was throwing up in the parks restroom( I went in to throw up also). Last I remember is we went to a 7-11 and Don Quijote. Bought a couple more beers and drank at the park. No way I'd feel safe passing out in the street in the U.S. or in Mexico. Shout out to my boy Yusei for hanging with us.


Hypron
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(10-12-2017, 10:52 PM)
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Interesting they chose Wellington over Auckland for NZ. Sure, Wellington is probably safer but it's a lot smaller in pretty much every metric too.
Patrick Bateman
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(10-12-2017, 10:55 PM)
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Originally Posted by frontovik

Can Japan GAF confirm?

Ive been twice to Japan and its supersafe. Ive never seen one police man in whole Tokyo except when I passed the police station. No cop cars with alarm or anything.
Its just not necessary.
Dommo
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(10-12-2017, 11:00 PM)
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In Tokyo, I saw a cop park their car and go into 7/11, leaving the keys in the ignition with the car idling. Was bizarre to see and couldn't imagine that happening in most other nations.
Dyle
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(10-12-2017, 11:13 PM)
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Chicago safer than London/New York is absurd, even if the data completely ignored the west/south sides. Also unclear what they mean by the term megacity, there's a huge difference between a single city and a larger metropolitan area and it isn't clear how they breakdown that distinction/if they do at all. Chicago/suburbs are completely different beyond the border towns and it makes no sense in terms of how security is handled by city and local police forces. Digital security also seems completely overrated when the other three categories consistently threaten life and limb when digital security pretty much only threatens financial livelihood.
commish
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(10-12-2017, 11:17 PM)
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Originally Posted by Dommo

In Tokyo, I saw a cop park their car and go into 7/11, leaving the keys in the ignition with the car idling. Was bizarre to see and couldn't imagine that happening in most other nations.

Who on earth would steal a cop car though.
Pachimari
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(10-12-2017, 11:19 PM)
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Manila ranked among the 60 safest cities, yet cities like Copenhagen ain't on there at all..
bomma_man
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(10-12-2017, 11:19 PM)
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Originally Posted by Dyle

Chicago safer than London/New York is absurd, even if the data completely ignored the west/south sides. Also unclear what they mean by the term megacity, there's a huge difference between a single city and a larger metropolitan area and it isn't clear how they breakdown that distinction/if they do at all. Chicago/suburbs are completely different beyond the border towns and it makes no sense in terms of how security is handled by city and local police forces. Digital security also seems completely overrated when the other three categories consistently threaten life and limb when digital security pretty much only threatens financial livelihood.

Its the economist
PillarEN
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(10-12-2017, 11:20 PM)
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Kawaii.
MattKeil
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(10-12-2017, 11:21 PM)
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Originally Posted by frontovik

Can Japan GAF confirm?

Yup. One night in particular in Tokyo resulted in a bit of embarrassment at worst, but in almost any other city on the planet one of us would have been dead in an alley somewhere. Ridiculously safe city.
Tu101uk
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(10-12-2017, 11:23 PM)
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Originally Posted by frontovik

Can Japan GAF confirm?

Definitely confirm Tokyo, been there twice now. I've been out bar hopping in the middle of Shibuya into the wee hours with wads of cash (for all of their technology Japan is still a cash-centric society though it has improved greatly with more ATMs for foreigners and contactless payments) and not feel in the slightest bit threatened.

Osaka, on the other hand, was a bit more urban (granted the hostel my group were staying in was in a more rundown part of the city), that city reminded me more of Central and South London, with bikes and mopeds everywhere. Maybe it was safer than it looked? It was certainly less pristine than the ivory towers and emerald roads of Tokyo that's for sure.

PS - surprised London wasn't lower amongst the big world cities...
blackflag
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(10-12-2017, 11:27 PM)
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LOL how are they weighing these.

Chicago, LA, Johannesburg, Sao Paulo....There's a lot of violent crime in these places.
Omadahl
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(10-12-2017, 11:28 PM)
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Originally Posted by commish

Who on earth would steal a cop car though.

Most of the methed-outed nutjobs that populate the US midwest or any idiot in most metropolitan areas.

Just confirming that I mean people on meth, not that the entire midwest is on meth. Reference: I live in the midwest.
Mattakuevan
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(10-12-2017, 11:30 PM)
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Huh... where the hell is San Diego on this. We're a way safer city than freaking LA.
Breakage
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(10-12-2017, 11:34 PM)
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Acid attacks, knife crime, and terrorism have probably helped put London at 20.
FrankCanada97
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(10-12-2017, 11:42 PM)
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They seem to consider "perceptions" of safety in the personal security category for some reason. As if perceptions have any influence on reality.
pseudocaesar
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(10-12-2017, 11:45 PM)
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I cant take this ranking seriously at all.. because there is no way to accurately measure every city on the planet. You're trying to tell me that living in LA, Chicago, Kuwait City, Mexico City, Cairo, Tehran etc etc are safer than my city of Hobart in Australia... or any capital city in Australia for that matter?

Some of the cities listed are almost stereo-typically bad in terms of perception of safety/crime etc. Hell... Chicago is nicknamed Chiraq because of how violent it is.
Austriacus
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(10-12-2017, 11:46 PM)
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Originally Posted by FrankCanada97

They seem to consider "perceptions" of safety in the personal security category for some reason. As if perceptions have any influence on reality.

Of course it has an influence on reality, how safe you believe you are affects how you handle living in a city and what measures you take to live in it. For example, in a city you percieve as more dangeours you might chose to carry a gun or a pocket knife, which could lead to an escalation of a situation that didnt need it. Multiply that by millions of citizens not feeling safe and you got people not trusting each other and the city being more dangeours as a result.

Also im really confused at people believing the cities that are not here didnt make the cut or something, i doubt you can rank every city in the world, its possible that the criteria they did to choose these cities might have been as simple as amount of readers they have in them or where their correspondents find themeselves.
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FrankCanada97
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(10-12-2017, 11:51 PM)
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Originally Posted by Austriacus

Of course it has an influence on reality, how safe you believe you are affects how you handle living in a city and what measures you take to live in it. For example, in a city you percieve as more dangeours you might chose to carry a gun or a pocket knife, which could lead to an escalation of a situation that didnt need it. Multiply that by millions of citizens not feeling safe and you got people not trusting each other and the city being more dangeours as a result.

Also im really confused at people believing the cities that are not here didnt make the cut or something, i doubt you can rank every city in the world, its possible that the criteria they did to choose these cities might have been as simple as amount of readers they have in them or where their correspondents find themeselves.

Oh, I took it to mean outside perceptions. Your explanation makes sense.
Chaos2Frozen
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(10-12-2017, 11:53 PM)
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Only number two?! Theres no glory in second place!
Darksol
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(10-12-2017, 11:56 PM)
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Originally Posted by frontovik

Can Japan GAF confirm?

I leave my wallet and laptop and cell phone on my table when I go to the bathroom in a busy Starbucks nobody will ever touch it.

You can see passed out salarymen outside stations with their wallet and phone sitting on their chest nobody will touch it.
DopeyFish
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(10-13-2017, 12:02 AM)
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Originally Posted by AAK

Toronto? There are so many crime headlines I read throughout the week.... that can't be right.

To give you an idea, Toronto has like 10% of the murders of Chicago.

Just remember, the population of Toronto and the area immediately surrounding it is 25% of the country's population

Want to see relatively unsafe in this country, see Edmonton.
FrankCanada97
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(10-13-2017, 12:04 AM)
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Originally Posted by DopeyFish

To give you an idea, Toronto has like 10% of the murders of Chicago.

Just remember, the population of Toronto and the area immediately surrounding it is 25% of the country's population

Want to see relatively unsafe in this country, see Edmonton.

Toronto also has a larger population than Chicago.
Stinkles
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(10-13-2017, 12:08 AM)
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Yep. It's crazy watching LITTLE kids going to school on their own in a city of more than the million people. I mean like six year olds. It's kind of awesome. I have never felt unsafe in Tokyo and the most drama you ever see is hawkers in Roppongi getting grabby with customers, or wasted salarymen mumbling vaguely racist shit at you but turtling when you ask them WTF they just said.
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(10-13-2017, 12:09 AM)
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Originally Posted by Majine

Weird selection of cities. Stockholm is there, but not Copenhagen?

Neither is Helsinki or Oslo. I call swedish shenanigans.
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(10-13-2017, 12:09 AM)
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37 - Rio de Janeiro

FUCKING LOL
DopeyFish
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(10-13-2017, 12:09 AM)
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Originally Posted by FrankCanada97

Toronto also has a larger population than Chicago.

Well in city level, yeah. But chicagoland vs greater golden horseshoe, not quite there, yet.
onken
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(10-13-2017, 12:11 AM)
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Sure until it gets nuked by North Korea amirite.
Pachimari
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Originally Posted by Majine

Weird selection of cities. Stockholm is there, but not Copenhagen?

To be fair, we do have gang wars and plenty of gang activity here in Copenhagen. This year civilians have been in danger just walking some of the most populated streets because of shootings. I think this is the biggest thing "threatening" our safety here though.
Hollywood Duo
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(10-13-2017, 12:17 AM)
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Something is off here. Never been to Tokyo so I cant comment on that but a lot of these cities seem way high up. Brussels especially. Amsterdam was the safest feeling place Ive been so its not all wrong.
FrankCanada97
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(10-13-2017, 12:21 AM)
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Originally Posted by Hollywood Duo

Something is off here. Never been to Tokyo so I cant comment on that but a lot of these cities seem way high up. Brussels especially. Amsterdam was the safest feeling place Ive been so its not all wrong.

Out of the cities in this list, which do you feel are ranked too high in comparison to others in the list?
Hollywood Duo
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(10-13-2017, 12:33 AM)
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Originally Posted by FrankCanada97

Out of the cities in this list, which do you feel are ranked too high in comparison to others in the list?

Brussels for sure. Istanbul while not that high still feels way too high. Chicago is another one. Being safer than London seems crazy to me.
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(10-13-2017, 12:44 AM)
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Originally Posted by Hollywood Duo

Brussels for sure. Istanbul while not that high still feels way too high. Chicago is another one. Being safer than London seems crazy to me.

I suppose if they weighted the four categories differently, Chicago would fall. London probably has better health and infrastructure security. Maybe in personal security as well, but they don't really explain how they weigh violent crime against terrorism.

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