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Megaman Legends 3 axed; Capcom blames fans/goes insane, [Fans Start Support Group]
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SnakeSlashRO
Banned
Why did kenji infune leave???? Time to bring that story back up....
Amir0x said:fuck. one of the main games I wanted for 3DS :/
down to like four games now
Down to one for me. Theatrhythm, you are the last hope for me!
EDIT: Two actually, just remembered the Layton/Phoenix Wright game. Although I haven't heard anything about that in forever. Hopefully it's not going to get cancelled like MML3.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
3DS is fucked. Where's the blackboard?
SonicMegaDrive
Member
SnakeSlashRO said:
I personally think he was "asked" to leave by the Capcom brass after he spoke out against his company's future plans.
AceBandage
Banned
jling84 said:
So, essentially, you got a 3DS for 1 game (seeing as Theatrhythm was JUST announced)...
EatChildren said:
Already posted. Didn't even have MML3 on it. Lawl.
beelzebozo
Jealous Bastard
wow, this just seems inconsiderate, unprofessional, and fucking mean.
ShockingAlberto
Member
Honestly?RedSwirl said:
Because games got more expensive to develop. 3DS games require more money, time, and manpower than a DS game.
Which, I mean, march of time. Nothing you can do about it. But it's hurting everyone, from Nintendo to third parties. You can't take a risk on a game right now because you'll be out more money. That investment of capital, time, and opportunity cost will hit you harder than it did on the DS.
Ironically, the Vita will probably have an easier time of it because of the asset (at minimum) sharing it can do with the PS3.
CoffeeJanitor
Member
I hate to be a douche but...
As expected.
As expected.
ShockingAlberto
Member
I bought mine literally only for Ace Attorney vs. Layton. Doesn't mean I'm not going to buy other games, though.Synless said:
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
MY RAGE CANNOT BE CONTAINED
PeakPointMatrix
Member
Who knows, maybe they'll cancel it. That game sounds too good to be true as well.Deadbeat said:
AceBandage
Banned
Synless said:
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
AceBandage said:
Yet has Metal Gear Solid for...some...reason...
ShockingAlberto
Member
It's a Level 5 game, so I wouldn't expect to see it until it's nearing completion.Deadbeat said:
On the other hand, it's a Level 5 game, and they do not actually develop games, they just announce them. So who knows.
I trust that it's coming because Layton is a cash cow.
Synless said:
well Resident Evil Revelations. Beyond the Labyrinth. So half the games I want from 3DS aren't from Nintendo.
Actually, even Nintendo's 3DS lineup is pretty abysmal. Unless you're in dire need of yet more Mario Kart or N64 remakes, or another entry in the worst gaming franchise of all time Animal Crossing. Or, fuck, that lame peek-a-boo ghost garbage with Luigi's Mansion. Awful on GCN with like one hour of content and all of it skill-less tripe.
I am still holding onto Mario and whenever they release a proper 3DS Zelda, of course. But like I said, Nintendo better start coming up with new franchises and quick. I know others are content to play their same crap over and over but I am not. I grew up on them, love their games, but even I have a limit.
Yeah, hopefully it is localized. Just that being on PSP and releasing in JP in 2012, it doesn't look likely. Although if it is a remake of a Digimon World game (as the RE in the title suggests) it could have a fighting chance.Key2001 said:
I'm actually not even that upset about Megaman, surprisingly. Weird feeling considering how much I was anticipating it.
AceBandage
Banned
Synless said:
Beyond The Labyrinth
Takao said:
Yeah the last one was in 2008, but they have only made two since then. One (2 versions Red/Blue) was released in March this year and the other July of last year. Both were released on the NDS, which doesn't have the advantage of something like the PS Store.
These were both part of the Digimon Story line of games, the new one is part of the Digimon World line of games. I believe every Digimon World game has been released outside of Japan.
I doubt how the PSP sales from now on will be a determining factor(they knew how it was before even starting to work on this game), perhaps the PS Vita will though. If it is released outside of Japan it would likely only be a PSN (and/or PSVita game card) release, which would increase the consumer base to PS Vita owners as well. It seems a lot of Japanese developers have been talking about doing this with the few PSP games that are left.
The game also has a Devil Survivor type look and feel to it, I imagine that alone will help push sales. I probably shouldn't go anymore off topic than this.
Fantastical
Death Prophet
Time to cough up some money for some exclusives, Nintendo. Things are looking bleak.
It's hard for me to like Capcom anymore after all their fuck ups recently. What a piece of shit company, they deserve to crash right into the ground.
Oh my god if Layton/Phoenix Wright doesn't come out/doesn't get localized I will go fucking crazy. I need that game more than anything else.
EDIT: To be clear I'm excited for a lot of software on the 3DS, but it's still a bummer seeing all these devs cancel or be really apprehensive about the system.
It's hard for me to like Capcom anymore after all their fuck ups recently. What a piece of shit company, they deserve to crash right into the ground.
*BUYS 5 COPIES OF RE4 HD*
Oh my god if Layton/Phoenix Wright doesn't come out/doesn't get localized I will go fucking crazy. I need that game more than anything else.
EDIT: To be clear I'm excited for a lot of software on the 3DS, but it's still a bummer seeing all these devs cancel or be really apprehensive about the system.
Busaiku said:
What I mean is, if they thought the team was going to get the community so involved at an early stage like this, the higher ups should never have let this go forward. Prototypes getting turned down internally happens a lot. It would have been a lot better for the fans of this series if they never knew this happened, rather than get everyone in the community excited then have the prototype rejected.
AceBandage
Banned
Izayoi said:
Luckily, Capcom has little say in that one, since it's a Level 5 game.
Uncle Rupee
Banned
So.... Capcom didn't like the sales figures for Mercenaries?
... probably shouldn't have made a crap game, then. I'm willing to bet way more people were excited for MML3 than a spin-off of a RE mini-game.
Way to fail, Capcom.
... probably shouldn't have made a crap game, then. I'm willing to bet way more people were excited for MML3 than a spin-off of a RE mini-game.
Way to fail, Capcom.
@ShockingAlberto: I certainly agree in that Nintendo failed to make the sales transition from NDS to 3DS. The way in which their new handheld seems to have to build up its reputation from the very scratch is totally non-understandable and shouldn´t have been like that. 3DS should have been to NDS what PS2 was to PS1.
But I cannot find much sympathy for third party developers here. The 249 Dollar price is often thrown in as the end all-argument to this debate, but I don´t agree with that. Price is not the 3DS´ big problem. After all, it is steadily selling above 20k each week in Japan. If price was *the* problem, hardware sales would be in a downwards spiral.
What 3DS is missing, is a high quality software portfolio. And that is where this whole debate gets interesting: Nintendo could have had OoT 3D at launch. They could have quickly followed up with StarFox 64 3D and they could have had one more title ready to bridge the fall/christmas timeframe. But they intentionally decided against that, why? To give third parties room for *their* games. What followed was one of the most boring system-launches (even though Ghost Recon was great, but a strategy-game with NDS-graphics isn´t exactly the reason to buy a new system for most), followed up by a lackluster software lineup that even now isn´t shining. Third-parties messed it up.
What *angers* me is how we´re now getting these cancellation news that may have any kind of reasoning, just not one: Nintendo´s fault. They didn´t make a mistake; if anything, they´re consequentially at fault for giving third parties this chance. But now that the situation is what it is, instead of sticking to it, paying back to Nintendo the benevolence they were granted, third parties are on a retreat. They´re leaving a ship they made sink. (Slight hyperbole, 3DS really won´t *sink*, at least for now). We´re often referencing Capcom´s practice of "test games" to see if there is a market. What happens right now is that, without any such test games, they´re leaving the hardware. That is a crappy business culture and shouldn´t go uncalled.
Elaborate on how this situation is Nintendo´s fault.
But I cannot find much sympathy for third party developers here. The 249 Dollar price is often thrown in as the end all-argument to this debate, but I don´t agree with that. Price is not the 3DS´ big problem. After all, it is steadily selling above 20k each week in Japan. If price was *the* problem, hardware sales would be in a downwards spiral.
What 3DS is missing, is a high quality software portfolio. And that is where this whole debate gets interesting: Nintendo could have had OoT 3D at launch. They could have quickly followed up with StarFox 64 3D and they could have had one more title ready to bridge the fall/christmas timeframe. But they intentionally decided against that, why? To give third parties room for *their* games. What followed was one of the most boring system-launches (even though Ghost Recon was great, but a strategy-game with NDS-graphics isn´t exactly the reason to buy a new system for most), followed up by a lackluster software lineup that even now isn´t shining. Third-parties messed it up.
What *angers* me is how we´re now getting these cancellation news that may have any kind of reasoning, just not one: Nintendo´s fault. They didn´t make a mistake; if anything, they´re consequentially at fault for giving third parties this chance. But now that the situation is what it is, instead of sticking to it, paying back to Nintendo the benevolence they were granted, third parties are on a retreat. They´re leaving a ship they made sink. (Slight hyperbole, 3DS really won´t *sink*, at least for now). We´re often referencing Capcom´s practice of "test games" to see if there is a market. What happens right now is that, without any such test games, they´re leaving the hardware. That is a crappy business culture and shouldn´t go uncalled.
mr_chun said:
Elaborate on how this situation is Nintendo´s fault.
AceBandage
Banned
Despera said:
Still in development as far as anyone knows.
Hopefully we hear more at TGS.
Shadow of the BEAST
Banned
Handhelds market outside of japan is looking shaky due to the advent of smartphones.
The thing with vita is. even if it fails in the west, you can still port the games to ps360. And they will still look acceptable.
The thing with vita is. even if it fails in the west, you can still port the games to ps360. And they will still look acceptable.
uchihasasuke said:
This makes me wonder, who doesn't hate Capcom right now? This is the list of people they've pissed off:
1) Megaman fans: Cancelling Megaman Legends 3, Megaman: Universe, and not releasing Megaman Battle Network x Star Force in North America.
2) Resident Evil fans: Outsource latest console game to no-name developer known for developing low rent PSP, and PS3 Socom spinoffs. Releasing a 3DS game that has locked saves, and showed no effort in development.
3) RPG fans: Killing Breath of Fire, and not localizing The Last Ranker.
4) Devil May Cry fans: Well, you should know.
5) Fighting game fans: Milking the genre for all its worth once again despite seeing what happened when they did that in the 90s.
6) Ace Attorney fans: For skipping Ace Attorney Investigations 2.
7) Sen Goku Basara fans: For likely not localizing any future titles.
8) Onimusha fans: This series exists?!
9) Monster Hunter fans: Localization of Monster Hunter Portable 3rd, and the Poka Poka Aillu Village series? LOL No.
I guess Dead Rising fans are cool with them?
The Hermit
Member
lol 3DS...
