Prioritize int and con, make sure your dex is at least 9 as well, though higher is better.
You have way too much wisdom (which does nothing for mages) and could lower your strength by 2 or 3 easily.
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Baldur's Gate Enhanced Edition |OT| Delays, patches, and bugs on bugs
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Prioritize int and con, make sure your dex is at least 9 as well, though higher is better.
You have way too much wisdom (which does nothing for mages) and could lower your strength by 2 or 3 easily.
BrokenFiction
Member
Thanks for this review. I had both this and the GOG version through a faulty memory and a too quick 'buy now' click. I think I'll go with Beam dog this time around (it's my first time playing BG).
That link no work, so I guess it has been pulled.
Gentleman Jack
Member
Dang. Desktop version it is.
crackbabyjr
Member
Anyone here have the enhanced edition and GOG version? If so is the EE worth the extra money or is the GOG version with mods just as good?
Minsc
Gold Member
I dunno, if you want to stick with the original characters because you've never played the game, the iPad / Android versions will be $10 vs the current $20 price tag of the PC version (I don't give it too long until it's on sale for $5 on either platform). The IAPs just evens the price out to a total of $20 like on the desktop.
GOG version with mods will be just as good, you give up very little (zooming and window re-sizing from the EE are really just nice gimmicks), especially if you haven't played the game. Once the bugs are worked out, this should be a lot more accessible than the BG1 without mods though. If you're not in a rush to play, the GOG version will probably go on sale soon too, whenever they start their holiday sale, probably a week or two.
The difference is the ipad version is $9.99 instead of $19.99, the in-app purchases are the extra stuff they added to the enhanced edition, which I believe puts it up to the full pc price or you can just stick with the original for the $10.
Edit: Beaten to the description, I should read more carefully
If you want to be a powergaming min-max'er, you can probably put WIS/CHA down to minimum (3?). High STR is useful even for a non-warrior for carry weight. I forget how much high DEX impacts armor class, but it probably helps.
As a mage, you could probably roll a few times (or 30!) and then boost all your physical traits, and max INT. I forget if CHA even impacts the game, maybe it does.
Roll and reroll! If you get a good roll, you can 'store' it, and keep rolling. You can recall to get it back if you can't find any of the future rolls being as good.
This is strictly speaking as a min-max'er. By all means, as long as you have high INT and decent CON, you should be fine to play.
As a mage, you could probably roll a few times (or 30!) and then boost all your physical traits, and max INT. I forget if CHA even impacts the game, maybe it does.
Roll and reroll! If you get a good roll, you can 'store' it, and keep rolling. You can recall to get it back if you can't find any of the future rolls being as good.
This is strictly speaking as a min-max'er. By all means, as long as you have high INT and decent CON, you should be fine to play.
How is this?
Much better, though I'd personally take 4 out of charisma and put it into dex for some more armour class.
Is the new content is actually good? I was really sceptic, but maybe i'll chime in if new adventures are interesting.
And i didn't knew Beamdog confirmed that they have a deal for getting both of the games done:
http://twitter.com/TrentOster/status/274303397719597056
He confirms BG2EE (which i'm much, much more interested about) will be coming out.
And i didn't knew Beamdog confirmed that they have a deal for getting both of the games done:
http://twitter.com/TrentOster/status/274303397719597056
He confirms BG2EE (which i'm much, much more interested about) will be coming out.
What? This whole time, I was convinced this already included all games and expansions...
CHA only impacts store prices. Also as a mage you don't need more than 16 CON as only fighter types get a bonus for higher than 16. DEX get's you -1 to Armor Class (lower is better) for each point (-1 at 15, -4 at 18) and a bonus to ranged weapon THAC0 (how easily you can hit others) of -1 at 16, -2 at 17 or 18 and -3 at 19 (hurray for being an elf!). WIS and CHA can be taken down to 8 with no penalty.
If you wanted to min-max with that roll, you could go with
STR 9
DEX 19
CON 16
INT 18
WIS 8
CHA 8
Or you could keep rolling. That's only a 78 total. You should be able to get a high 80 or low 90 total without too much trouble so you could boost your STR as well.
To get the most out of that high dex, go with sling instead of quarterstaff. You won't do a lot of damage, but it'll make sure you don't accidentally run into melee and get squished.
The other piece of advice is to get rid of either Chromatic Orb or Magic Missile and grab Sleep instead. Chromatic Orb and Magic Missile will often fail to kill even low level monsters in one shot. Sleep on the other hand can incapacitate entire groups of enemies making your attacks (almost?) always hit. I'd probably ditch Chromatic Orb.
This ended up being longer than I intended it to be. >_>
LunaticLMD
Member
That's good.
Ah, I said screw it and decided to purchase the Enhanced Edition. It's only $20 and seems money better spent than the Omega dlc.
Going to roll two characters, one with the new npcs, and the other with the npcs I've always beaten Baldur's Gate with (Viconia, Edwin, Jaheira, Khalid, and Imoen).
Giolon
Member
IIRC, Charisma is a modifier on how people react to you (along with things like Party Reputation), which can provide different dialogue or better prices.
Charisma doesn't effect dialog in BG.
Mister_Bubbles
Member
And you get a ring that pushes your Charisma to 18 right after the starting dungeon of BGII, so it's definitely the least important stat to worry about.
Futurevoid
Member
So is this out on the iPad?
Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
My favorite part of BG1 and BG2 was spending 45 minutes rerolling stats until I make all my important stats 17+ and make the 1-2 stats that didn't matter (generally wisdom and cha) like 9-10.
Hargenx
Member
So close to mine, just change Khalid for Jan, i love he's traps!
reputation and prices yes but i never had any different dialog.
I rise you. Hour of that and when you rolled best you decide to play with just next random values.
scumbag brain
LunaticLMD
Member
Isn't he in BG2?
Giolon
Member
There are characters who won't join you if the combination of your Charisma and Reputation are too low (both affect the "Reaction" roll that is made to determine whether they will join you - Xan and supposedly Minsc are examples of this), and I've found FAQ references to at least 1 instance of a person who will give you an item if her Reaction roll to you is high enough. I call both of these things generically "dialog" differences, though maybe everyone else doesn't.
Paladins use Wisdom. Sorcerers don't get bonus spells from abilities. I can't remember if this was by design or if it was a bug that had been fixed at some point.
He is. Not sure who he's talking about unless he means Tiax.
LunaticLMD
Member
I think sorcerers get their spells from charisma? The higher their charisma, the more spells they can cast.
Anyway, played a bit of the Black Pit and the actual game and...
I wish the resources they used for the Black Pit were put into the game (More side-quests) or TBP was actually integrated into the main game. I don't like the fact its completely separated from the main experience and seems like a waste. It would have been cool if it was kind of like the Mind Flayer Hive from BG2. Of course, things would need to be tweaked.
Another thing, I applaud the fact the new npcs can be talked to and have full voice acting, but it makes me look at the rest of the cast (Minsc, Imoen, etc) and go... "fuck, why don't they have any dialogue at all?"
I wouldn't have mind if Neera (Only came across her so far) and the others had their voice commands voice acted and everything else was just text, because then they might have added actual dialogue for the rest of the cast. Everyone else feels so dead now with Neera around.
I like the soundtrack, especially the song that plays when going into combat. I'm indifferent about the new cinematics, and haven't run into any bugs yet either.
Anyway, played a bit of the Black Pit and the actual game and...
I wish the resources they used for the Black Pit were put into the game (More side-quests) or TBP was actually integrated into the main game. I don't like the fact its completely separated from the main experience and seems like a waste. It would have been cool if it was kind of like the Mind Flayer Hive from BG2. Of course, things would need to be tweaked.
Another thing, I applaud the fact the new npcs can be talked to and have full voice acting, but it makes me look at the rest of the cast (Minsc, Imoen, etc) and go... "fuck, why don't they have any dialogue at all?"
I wouldn't have mind if Neera (Only came across her so far) and the others had their voice commands voice acted and everything else was just text, because then they might have added actual dialogue for the rest of the cast. Everyone else feels so dead now with Neera around.
I like the soundtrack, especially the song that plays when going into combat. I'm indifferent about the new cinematics, and haven't run into any bugs yet either.
I haven't played it yet, but I think it's worth pointing out the improvements that are listed don't even approach the improvements that are accomplished with mods.
Modding BG1 goes far beyond the widescreen patch and Tutu. There are AI mods, rule tweaks, dialogue mods to flesh out the characters, new quests, new characters, ability to customize how BG1 plays in the BG2 engine, etc. etc. etc.
Overhaul has continually talked up support for mods and a relationship with the modding community. I haven't seen any concrete evidence of this, but if it's all true and the modding community really works at this game, BG:EE could obviously become something pretty spectacular.
Not sure when I'll be buying it but I would really like to hear anyone's experience with modding it, what mods have been incorporated, etc.!
Modding BG1 goes far beyond the widescreen patch and Tutu. There are AI mods, rule tweaks, dialogue mods to flesh out the characters, new quests, new characters, ability to customize how BG1 plays in the BG2 engine, etc. etc. etc.
Overhaul has continually talked up support for mods and a relationship with the modding community. I haven't seen any concrete evidence of this, but if it's all true and the modding community really works at this game, BG:EE could obviously become something pretty spectacular.
Not sure when I'll be buying it but I would really like to hear anyone's experience with modding it, what mods have been incorporated, etc.!
LunaticLMD
Member
This has potential, but it needs patches to fix the problems people are having and yeah... mods...
The Enhanced Edition did make me want to re-install the originals w/ mods though, so maybe I'll play this once for the new content and do that until then.
The Enhanced Edition did make me want to re-install the originals w/ mods though, so maybe I'll play this once for the new content and do that until then.
Xander51
Member
Going to check out the archive, thanks!
I didn't plan on buying this since I still have my original copy and GOG version but I got it as a gift from a friend since he wanted to play the game in multiplayer with me.
Half the time I try to boot the game I get a white screen with only the music playing while my friend can get in the game but his whole playing area is pink and you can't click anywhere.
When I'm able to play, it seems I run into some weird glitches. I got the NPC is busy thing, sometimes I open a door and the door stay closed but I can still go inside and the THACO displayed in the inventory screen is different from the one on my character sheet.
Hopefully they patch it soon.
Half the time I try to boot the game I get a white screen with only the music playing while my friend can get in the game but his whole playing area is pink and you can't click anywhere.
When I'm able to play, it seems I run into some weird glitches. I got the NPC is busy thing, sometimes I open a door and the door stay closed but I can still go inside and the THACO displayed in the inventory screen is different from the one on my character sheet.
Hopefully they patch it soon.
I die. A lot.
Unless they've made some major UI adjustments, I don't see how this can work on an iPhone.
If you've never played this game, I'd strongly recommend purchasing Baldur's Gate 1 and 2 from GoodOldGames and using the BGTrilogy mod among others. If you are at all computer literate and don't mind a little tinkering, it's a much better experience than this for the same price since you get Baldur's Gate 1 and 2 as well, plus you can combine them into one huge game with the BGT mod.
I wouldn't recommend this "Enhanced" version to anyone.
I wouldn't recommend this "Enhanced" version to anyone.
I agree completely.
It was in the original too...
I never played it.
Minsc
Gold Member
It was just tweeted about an hour ago the latest build was rejected, so another 2 weeks probably.
That could lead to some entertaining weekends...
Felix Lighter
Member
Still looking forward to it but I'm expecting issues even when it finally makes it through cert. I'll be saving often.
water_wendi
Water is not wet!
If only.
You can set the speed for these to come up. i think by default its a couple seconds. It can be changed to be near instant in the options of the original game.
Really? What a bummer :| Just better be out by the 22nd so I can play it over my Christmas vacation