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VlaudTheImpaler
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(04-04-2016, 07:21 PM)
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I'm feeling a cornucopia of emotions at the moment as Vives are making their way to peoples homes and this is the best song that I can think of that conveys how I feel. I know it sound corny but when I think back to when I was a kid... I just never thought this day would come and it feels amazing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8OpsPok6iQ

What are some other songs that really convey the way you feel now that we are on the dawn of VR.
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kahi
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(04-04-2016, 07:24 PM)
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Originally Posted by Peltz

Thinking about ditching my PSVR order and building a baller PC and grabbing a vive to go with it. So tempting....

Do it. Do it.
Yoritomo
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(04-04-2016, 07:26 PM)

Originally Posted by ThatsMytrunks

20lb package? I think this might be it!


Paid via credit card, wave 1, charged thursday, no e-mail from HTC. Located in San Antonio TX.

My details mirror yours almost exactly but with me being in the Dallas Area.

Texas Wave 1 arrives on Texas doorsteps on the 6th.
jabberwocker
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(04-04-2016, 07:27 PM)
Where are the shipping from ?
Yoritomo
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(04-04-2016, 07:28 PM)

Originally Posted by jabberwocker

Where are the shipping from ?

Mine is in Indiana.
KingSnake
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(04-04-2016, 07:29 PM)
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I like the new title a lot.
bj00rn_
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(04-04-2016, 07:29 PM)
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Originally Posted by Cartman86

Oculus was so obsessed with saying, "see! You can play video games on this thing.

They can only get by on brand recognition for so long, and by so long I mean one more day.

First, this isn't really a Vive topic..

Anyway, not sure where you get the "obsessed with videogames" thingy from. I know and vividly remember Luckey on several occasions (if not all the times I've seen his interviews..) repeatedly saying through the last couple of years that VR isn't really about videogames but about its own unique experiences. But he has also many times explained that to get there, videogames is necessary, at least in the beginning to get the momentum going, not the least among developers.

I don't agree with the tone in the "they can only get by on brand recognition" sentence. I think Oculus has mostly done good, they know how to stand on their own two feet, and the Rift is a fine piece of hardware. Their timeline always appeared ok to me, except obviously having to postpone their Touch controllers.. I think their plan was fine, but I guess Valve and HTC took everyone by surprise, especially regarding ballsy room scale.
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TheCrow
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(04-04-2016, 07:31 PM)
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On reddit, it looks like east coast and midwest are starting to see shipping notifications.
Raticus79
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(04-04-2016, 07:32 PM)
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Originally Posted by Compsiox

Why the subtitle change?

It's more accessible, I guess.
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Animator
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(04-04-2016, 07:36 PM)
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New thread title is way better than the old one.


Does anyone have the link to that tiltbrush video with the girl drawing amazing LoL characters in tilt brush?
runningjoke
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(04-04-2016, 07:38 PM)
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Originally Posted by Animator

New thread title is way better than the old one.


Does anyone have the link to that tiltbrush video with the girl drawing amazing LoL characters in tilt brush?

https://twitter.com/SkyWilliams/stat...56650338930688
sammex
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(04-04-2016, 07:39 PM)
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Originally Posted by Compsiox

I have all the free games except Job Simulator. I only have the demo. Do we know if the games will just be free to download like the Oculus exclusives on Home? If not will I be able to get the full Job Simulator for free as a Vive Pre owner?

I think I read that when you register your Vive you get codes for the free games.
Zalusithix
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(04-04-2016, 07:39 PM)

Originally Posted by Raticus79

It's more accessible, I guess.

Dunno, the old one could be taken as somewhat dismissive or even insulting. I mean, "flailing around like a sweaty ham", while potentially amusing, doesn't really sound like a positive lol.
Dusktildawn48
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(04-04-2016, 07:41 PM)
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Originally Posted by KingSnake

I like the new title a lot.

Can someone please explain?
Sheytan
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(04-04-2016, 07:45 PM)
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nvm
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Animator
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(04-04-2016, 07:46 PM)
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Originally Posted by runningjoke

https://twitter.com/SkyWilliams/stat...56650338930688

Thank you!

By the way I just went down and talked with the MS store in vancouver. They will be getting Vive, Oculus and the Holodeck demo units. Not on launch but in the next two to three months.
Raticus79
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(04-04-2016, 07:47 PM)
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Originally Posted by Zalusithix

Dunno, the old one could be taken as somewhat dismissive or even insulting. I mean, "flailing around like a sweaty ham", while potentially amusing, doesn't really sound like a positive lol.

Yeah, better to play it safe if it was bugging people. This one's fine.

Originally Posted by Dusktildawn48

Can someone please explain?

The old "Watching you flail around like a sweaty pile of ham!" was a quote from GladOS in Valve's "Robot Repair" demo. Could have been off-putting for people who didn't get the reference.
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pooptacular
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(04-04-2016, 07:47 PM)
Parked at my kids school waiting for her to come out as I'm holding the vive controller. Shit is bigger than I thought it would be, but very comfy.

Just want to go home to try the Brookhaven demo lol.
Jordan117
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(04-04-2016, 07:47 PM)
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Originally Posted by Compsiox

Why the subtitle change?

The old one only made sense if you'd seen the particular Portal demo it was from, otherwise it comes off as weirdly flippant and off-putting. The new one captures the scope of the tech better.

(I liked "Joie de Vive" myself...)
mrklaw
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(04-04-2016, 07:49 PM)
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Originally Posted by Jordan117

The old one only made sense if you'd seen the particular Portal demo it was from, otherwise it comes off as weirdly flippant and off-putting. The new one captures the scope of the tech better.

(I liked "Joie de Vive" myself...)

Vive la revolution!
Sheytan
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(04-04-2016, 07:52 PM)
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ooops double post
taco543
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(04-04-2016, 07:52 PM)
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Yeah I've been Hella busy at the office so just saw the subtitle change. It's all good. Some people didn't get the reference but this works better for people as its not as off putting if you don't understand the reference.
Zalusithix
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(04-04-2016, 07:53 PM)

Originally Posted by mrklaw

Vive la revolution!

You're either butchering the pronunciation of the phrase or the product. Take your pick. =P
traveler
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(04-04-2016, 07:56 PM)
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Mine is here but I don't have the setup ready. Will probably wait till weekend to try to piece this all together.
VlaudTheImpaler
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(04-04-2016, 07:57 PM)
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Originally Posted by traveler

Mine is here but I don't the setup ready. Will probably wait till weekend to try to piece this all together.


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Z3M0G
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(04-04-2016, 07:57 PM)
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Originally Posted by taco543

The Lighthouse laser tracking system provides high speed, high precision position+orientation tracking at distances up to 5 metres (15 feet).

Animation of Lighthouse sync flashes and sweeps: HTC Vive Lighthouse Chaperone tracking system Explained
Reddit post with more technical detail
Well where the crap do I put the base stations?!
The base stations have a 120-degree arc for tracking, so there's a lot of flexibility. To minimize occlusion problems, it's best to have them high in the room, looking down at you from opposite sides. Ideally they should have clear line of sight to each other for the sync flashes, but that may not be necessary since the flash can bounce off other surfaces.
Two-sided tape can be used for attaching them to the wall, but may loosen over time due to vibration. The base stations have standard camera tripod threading on the bottom.
Well guys, see you on the other side.

Ouch, these don't sound like something you want falling and hitting the floor often... yet there is talk of using double sided tape? I'm sure many will put them on poles that could easily be knocked over...

Be sure to take good care of these, it would suck to have to ship one away for replacement/repair. I'm shocked that they have moving parts...
ShadowSoldier89
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(04-04-2016, 07:57 PM)
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Originally Posted by traveler

Mine is here but I don't have the setup ready. Will probably wait till weekend to try to piece this all together.

you can just send it over to me. im good to go
Compsiox
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(04-04-2016, 07:59 PM)
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Originally Posted by sammex

I think I read that when you register your Vive you get codes for the free games.

Hmm okay then. I'll be hoping for it to randomly appear in my library then.
Schryver
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(04-04-2016, 08:00 PM)
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Tried to order a few days ago but wasn't going through for some reason. Just placed one though! My PC is barely above the minimum recommended specs but I don't think I can sit around without VR for a whole year+ and wait for the new version. Hype
Zalusithix
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(04-04-2016, 08:01 PM)

Originally Posted by Z3M0G

Ouch, these don't sound like something you want falling and hitting the floor often... yet there is talk of using double sided tape? I'm sure many will put them on poles...

Be sure to take good care of these, it would suck to have to ship one away for replacement/repair. I'm shocked that they have moving parts...

They provide screw in wall mounts. They wont come down with official mounting guidelines. Also, there's no way around the moving parts. You're not going to get a moving beam without moving parts. No moving beam = no lighthouse. No lighthouse = a return to the comparatively limited camera tracking era.
Animator
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(04-04-2016, 08:02 PM)
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Originally Posted by traveler

Mine is here but I don't have the setup ready. Will probably wait till weekend to try to piece this all together.


Dude.....


:|
Raticus79
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(04-04-2016, 08:02 PM)
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Originally Posted by Z3M0G

Ouch, these don't sound like something you want falling and hitting the floor often... yet there is talk of using double sided tape? I'm sure many will put them on poles that could easily be knocked over...

Be sure to take good care of these, it would suck to have to ship one away for replacement/repair. I'm shocked that they have moving parts...

Yeah, the setup guide is pretty clear about anchoring them firmly. Can't just set them on a desk or shelf either.

Maybe we should just update the OP to be more of a warning and say double-sided tape isn't recommended due to the risk of them eventually working loose and falling due to vibration. Heavier duty 3M products could be ok, but I remember reading something from a dev that said all the ones they put up with command strips fell within a month or so.
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mrklaw
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(04-04-2016, 08:06 PM)
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Originally Posted by Zalusithix

You're either butchering the pronunciation of the phrase or the product. Take your pick. =P

Revolutionaries don't like the status quo!
Nzyme32
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(04-04-2016, 08:06 PM)
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Originally Posted by Z3M0G

Ouch, these don't sound like something you want falling and hitting the floor often... yet there is talk of using double sided tape? I'm sure many will put them on poles that could easily be knocked over...

Be sure to take good care of these, it would suck to have to ship one away for replacement/repair. I'm shocked that they have moving parts...

Not really true:

Zalusithix
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(04-04-2016, 08:11 PM)

Originally Posted by mrklaw

Revolutionaries don't like the status quo!

Touché
XRA
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(04-04-2016, 08:13 PM)
the motors in the base stations are high quality parts, Nidec motors made in Japan, similar to what is used in hard drives. I think the base stations are just under a pound, 700 grams or so?

The trouble with sticky mounting is you will still have to use the mounts, since the power cable sticks out the back of the base station a bit... so it depends how much surface area the mount has and what the finish is like (if its a coating that will peel or a stronger powder coat etc) Or maybe you can screw the mounts to a wider surface that then gets the adhesive...
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Wallach
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(04-04-2016, 08:14 PM)
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Originally Posted by traveler

Mine is here but I don't have the setup ready. Will probably wait till weekend to try to piece this all together.

gets VR before most of humanity

"I'll get around to it"

fuk
Exuro
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(04-04-2016, 08:15 PM)
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Originally Posted by Raticus79

Yeah, the setup guide is pretty clear about anchoring them firmly. Can't just set them on a desk or shelf either.

Well that's not technically true. You can place them on shelves and floors. It's just you'd need to recalibrate them if you moved them around so they suggest everyone to mount them so they're always in the same place.
taco543
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(04-04-2016, 08:15 PM)
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Originally Posted by Z3M0G

Ouch, these don't sound like something you want falling and hitting the floor often... yet there is talk of using double sided tape? I'm sure many will put them on poles that could easily be knocked over...

Be sure to take good care of these, it would suck to have to ship one away for replacement/repair. I'm shocked that they have moving parts...

Yeah as its been said their built tough to take a fall, plus in the OP the telescopic rods are really stable if set up properly. The only real worry is if you choose to use double sided sticky tape rather than using a telescopic rod or the wall mounts.
Compsiox
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(04-04-2016, 08:16 PM)
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Originally Posted by Wallach

gets VR before most of humanity

"I'll get around to it"

fuk

I know right! As soon as I got mine I ripped it open (out of the box lol) and started fiddling with it.
spannicus
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(04-04-2016, 08:18 PM)
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May hurry up
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Raticus79
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(04-04-2016, 08:19 PM)
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Originally Posted by Exuro

Well that's not technically true. You can place them on shelves and floors. It's just you'd need to recalibrate them if you moved them around so they suggest everyone to mount them so they're always in the same place.

They could move around on their own due to the vibration too, so they'd at least need to be clamped down.
Cartman86
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(04-04-2016, 08:21 PM)
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Originally Posted by bj00rn_

First, this isn't really a Vive topic..

Anyway, not sure where you get the "obsessed with videogames" thingy from. I know and vividly remember Luckey on several occasions (if not all the times I've seen his interviews..) repeatedly saying through the last couple of years that VR isn't really about videogames but about its own unique experiences. But he has also many times explained that to get there, videogames is necessary, at least in the beginning to get the momentum going, not the least among developers.

I don't agree with the tone in the "they can only get by on brand recognition" sentence. I think Oculus has mostly done good, they know how to stand on their own two feet, and the Rift is a fine piece of hardware. Their timeline always appeared ok to me, except obviously having to postpone their Touch controllers.. I think their plan was fine, but I guess Valve and HTC took everyone by surprise, especially regarding ballsy room scale.

They changed. At first they were certainly about VR as a different thing. Palmer even said gamepads were a terrible VR input. That changed though and the actual released product is a result of that. They didn't just double down on games though. "Games" are where VR is going to start and almost everything that isn't a game will rely on game engines so it makes sense. Especially since 360 video kind of sucks. The difference though is that they targeted a specific style of game and marketing mindset. Almost to reassure traditional gamers that Oculus has their back. I think this was the wrong move.
Zeknurn
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(04-04-2016, 08:21 PM)
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Forbes talked to Chet about VR esports.

“VR eSports is first going to be about spectating,” Faliszek says. “VR changes the game so radically. You’d need to make a game built from the ground up, and we’ll see games made for eSports.”

traveler
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(04-04-2016, 08:25 PM)
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What exactly are the killer launch apps here? Budget Cuts isn't ready, so I'm really just looking at Virtual Desktop and Elite Dangerous atm. Maybe Audioshield, but the charts didn't seem to match the music that well in the videos I saw.
Zalusithix
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(04-04-2016, 08:25 PM)

Originally Posted by Raticus79

They could move around on their own due to the vibration too, so they'd at least need to be clamped down.

Unless they're terribly balanced, they shouldn't wander on their own as I'm pretty sure they have a rubber pad on the bottom. The fact that you have no tilt control when sitting them on a shelf makes it less than ideal though. A camera clamp mount giving some articulation would certainly be best for shelf mounting.
Exuro
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(04-04-2016, 08:26 PM)
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Originally Posted by traveler

What exactly are the killer launch apps here? Budget Cuts isn't ready, so I'm really just looking at Virtual Desktop and Elite Dangerous atm. Maybe Audioshield, but the charts didn't seem to match the music that well in the videos I saw.

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Originally Posted by Raticus79

They could move around on their own due to the vibration too, so they'd at least need to be clamped down.

Someone's already tested them on a shelf and floor and didn't seem to have any issues. It's probably a good idea to at least get a clamp though.
marc^o^
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(04-04-2016, 08:27 PM)
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I love the new thread title, well done.
Cartman86
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(04-04-2016, 08:29 PM)
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Originally Posted by traveler

What exactly are the killer launch apps here? Budget Cuts isn't ready, so I'm really just looking at Virtual Desktop and Elite Dangerous atm. Maybe Audioshield, but the charts didn't seem to match the music that well in the videos I saw.

Space Pirate Trainer, Fantastic Contraption, Hover Junkers, The Gallery
taoofjord
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(04-04-2016, 08:29 PM)
Maryland, USA. 10:03 pre-order. Used CC. Waiting on shipping confirmation. Though I'm trying to be super mature and patient about it I feel like a big whiny baby on the inside.

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