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Wii U Speculation Thread 2: Can't take anymore of this!!!
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Would be cool to come out as a wii U launch title , remember the first time I played it. I wanted to kill my cousin(it was his game) when I thought it messed up the tv, and he was just sitting there laughing.
themadcowtipper
Smells faintly of rancid stilton.
Those spec rumors are diffrent then everything we heard.
Nope, I agree with you.
Yes, that's true, that's why I said they'd be good for the technical stuff. For example, Nintendo could design the new Zelda and let Factor 5 handle the technical aspects of the game. When I read stuff like this:
I think that Factor 5 would be great for this job.
AceBandage
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Nope, I agree with you.
Yes, that's true, that's why I said they'd be good for the technical stuff. For example, Nintendo could design the new Zelda and let Factor 5 handle the technical aspects of the game. When I read stuff like this:
I think that Factor 5 would be great for this job.
Old Factor 5, yes.
New Factor 5 that just does FaceBook games, no.
ecosse_011172
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"The source also mentions that Nintendo has been testing two versions of the console, one with 768 MB of RAM, and one with 1 GB."
Similar to what people here were saying except that people thought it was between 1GB and 1.5GB
AceBandage
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Except that we know it can't be less than 1GB, so yeah...
IceDoesntHelp
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Wait...we do?
AceBandage
Banned
Based on the amount of RAM lherre has seen in the dev kits, yes.
The retail unit will have a minimum of 1GB, with a possibility of more.
themadcowtipper
Smells faintly of rancid stilton.
Do you really think they are going to have that much edram.
Skiesofwonder
Walruses, camels, bears, rabbits, tigers and badgers.
If Eternal Darkness 2 is ever made, I will not be reading up on the sanity effects before hand. Pretty much ruined the experience for me....
Eternal Darkness was the game that taught me that spoilers are bad.
Eternal Darkness was the game that taught me that spoilers are bad.
May I ask something to all the tech guys here...
Even though we know (Iherre has stated minimum 2GB in dev kit) that that 768MB rumor wont be true.
My question is would it be better to have 768MB embeddedDRAM as a whole pool or 1,0 - 1,5 GB DDR3/5 RAM + maybe 24/32MB eDRAM for GPU or CPU??
Is the eDRAM really that expensive compared to the others?
Or is it a considerable cost cos its more efficient?
eDRAM is in the chip itself, right?! So IBM might also produce the GPU was also rumored a while back.
What would the tech guys say if the put 512MB eDRAM on CPU and 1.5GB eDRAM on GPU.
Is that even possible?
And wouldnt that also reduce the heat?
I'm sorry for so many questions but that came just up my mind and I have to ask...
Even though we know (Iherre has stated minimum 2GB in dev kit) that that 768MB rumor wont be true.
My question is would it be better to have 768MB embeddedDRAM as a whole pool or 1,0 - 1,5 GB DDR3/5 RAM + maybe 24/32MB eDRAM for GPU or CPU??
Is the eDRAM really that expensive compared to the others?
Or is it a considerable cost cos its more efficient?
eDRAM is in the chip itself, right?! So IBM might also produce the GPU was also rumored a while back.
What would the tech guys say if the put 512MB eDRAM on CPU and 1.5GB eDRAM on GPU.
Is that even possible?
And wouldnt that also reduce the heat?
I'm sorry for so many questions but that came just up my mind and I have to ask...
OrangeGrayBlue
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Actually, that's the very reason that I think Eternal Darkness 2 is a bad idea. How can you fool the gamer when they know the kind of tricks the first was known for?
Thunder Monkey
Banned
By weaving them into the very game. Instead of flashes just make the stuff naturally start going "WTF?!"
Or turn it into an exploitative story about a schizophrenic.
tkscz
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Sorry to throw everyone off the subject of eternal darkness 2, but am i the only one who thinks the 360/ps3 would have trouble running the japanese garden demo? i just watch the on floor version and just can't believe the current gen could handle textures of that resolution, lighting effects, such as god rays, that snow effect,where that hawk is walking in the snow and leaving imprints, amazing shadow effects (think it's soft shadow), that draw distance without a quality drop and doning it at what seems to be 60 fps.
ecosse_011172
Junior Member
Not for a second.
I think that rumor was incorrect with the type of RAM.
I'd say 32GB EDRAM and 1GB System RAM
ecosse_011172
Junior Member
He didn't specifically mention any numbers did he?
As far as I know he just said they were trying two different sizes and everyone assumed the min was 1GB.
OrangeGrayBlue
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I've never played it myself, but from what I understand it was the game's mind fuckery that earned it the reputation it has. Blue screens would pop up saying your Gamecube was frozen when it really wasn't, etc.
If you played a game that fools you into thinking your save file is corrupted or deleted, you'd understand. And that's just one example.
themadcowtipper
Smells faintly of rancid stilton.
He said devkits had 2GB, and that usually it is double the ram that ends up in the finale console. It is double foe debugging.
THE:MILKMAN
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Blu did the maths months ago for the comical 768MB eDRAM rumour.
~1400mm^2 @45Nm.........Yeah, no!
Thunder Monkey
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This is very true, but he also left it open that the devkit could have more. And that they were shooting for that nebulous "more".
If I was a betting man (I am) I'd say the sweet spot is some esoteric amount between 1.25 gigs and 1.5.
Bartered down from my initial stance of 1.5-2 gigs.
Skiesofwonder
Walruses, camels, bears, rabbits, tigers and badgers.
The most (in)famous one was
when the game suddenly flips to the Gamecube data screen and says your whole memory card has been corrupted and erased!
But even with the sanity effects spoiled, it really is quite a good horror game.
Honestly they would be stupid not too at this point (if Nintendo allowed it). A launch title Eternal Darnkess 2 would be pretty much guaranteed to do well (sales-wise) and it would help rebuild trust with their company if the title is as good as the last one. It also would be brilliant with the Vitality Sensor technology, and if that really is a feature of the system, I would imagine this would be the hardcore title representing it.
But that all makes too much sense to actually happen.....
Gianni Merryman
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Still they could do a HD remake of the original game, as I reckon only a little segment of WiiU's potential userbase got to play Eternal darkness on Gamecube and it could easily sell decently.
On the other hand, honestly I don't think neither a remake nor a sequel make much sense, yet Nintendo does need to establish some new IPs for WiiU - following the trail they already started on Wii with Xenoblade, The last story and Pandora's tower - so if they should feel like developing a cyberpunk/horror/sci-fi adult-oriented new franchise appealing to Western market, Retro may be easily the one developer team able to handle it.
You read my mind heh, yeah I was thinking the same thing, the bird demo is quite impressive, too bad we don't have a direct feed from it, I think that PS3/360 could run it but not so smooth, some frame drops here and there. One of the most impressive things about it is how stable and silky animation is.
Speaking of Eternal Darkness, there are so many sanity effects that I heard of but never got. I was almost gleeful when I played it again just before coming to American and I finally got one where
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One of the only horror games I've bought and played because it's that good. Sequel, please.
the character shoots the screen leaving a bullet hole in the glass and also seems to stare right at you
One of the only horror games I've bought and played because it's that good. Sequel, please.
bgassassin
Member
That rumor was incorrect on a lot of things. Not even Nintendo said it was targeting four cores.
andthebeatgoeson
Junior Member
I know you posted this so long ago but I'll love it if I can game while they watch Yo Gabba Gabba. But if I do game, I may still end up slaughtering someone because of that stupid voice.
Yeah, I don't get people saying that because you know the tricks from the first one it wouldn't work again. If the game is done well they'll do different surprising things, also the game wasn't just about tricks, without them it was still a good horror game.
bgassassin
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The main thing that gets forgotten as to why PS360 would have trouble with the demo(s) is that they would have to handle the game on two screens. I might nitpick certain things with the demos, but I always remember that.
Of course how it's handled is always going to be an issue and it would be difficult to replicate the impact of the first. I'm sure that it's perfectly possible to make an excellent sequel though.
I think that one of the most impressive things about Eternal Darkness was that it managed to include a competent combat system without it encroaching on the horror aspect. It seems that when some horror games emphasise combat too much the horror is lessened. It's a difficult balance to keep the player feeling well-equipped, but still feeling uneasy and vulnerable.
tkscz
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I didn't forget that, I was typing the previous message from my phone, and my phone wouldn't let me type past a certain point (i could still type, but I wouldn't see it). I was going to bring up how it's running on two screens, and how you could see more on the controller's screen by moving it and still on underclocked hardware.
Honestly if it were running on this gen hardware, I think it would be closer to 30 fps than 60. I also think we'd see some pop in textures (especially on the 360), the shadows wouldn't be as soft, and the lighting wouldn't be as good. But that's all my opinion.
Also, why were there two different versions of the garden demo? Anyone know that?
bgassassin
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Oh no. I was thinking about the ones who say it's not much, if any, improvement over PS360.
I'd assume it was that they needed to have one ready for the press conference video and the one on the floor was given more time for improvements. They most likely cared more about the demo people would be seeing up close than the "one-time" video at the press conference.
invaderzim69
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As you play the game, depending on the sanity meter, it messes with your mind. Its a very good game.
Looking for a potential manufacturer for the aforementioned audio DSP, I guess Nintendo might once again source from Macronix - or Modiotek, as their audio IC department is known these days. Their chips are designed for mobile appliances like smartphones, so they require very little power and are tightly integrated, but they still provide 64 channel hardware mixing, some internal cache to reduce bandwidth requirements, and offer hardware decoding for common audio codecs like MP3, AAC and eAAC+ (HE-AAC v2).
Do you think Nintendo will launch with a re-make of an old game with updated graphics/implemented new control scheme? They did it with the DS (Mario 64), 3DS (OoT), and sort of with the Wii (TP). If the whole Crytek thing is true, I personally wouldnt mind seeing Tallon IV with the cryengine.
Say, guys, has Nintendo ever released any limited editions of their home consoles? Can't remember for the life of me.
Just saw the limited edition Fire Emblem 3DS, and... just... wow! If there were ever to be a TLoZ or FE themed Wiiwoo, I'd definitely hold out on buying one until the LE editions came out.
Just saw the limited edition Fire Emblem 3DS, and... just... wow! If there were ever to be a TLoZ or FE themed Wiiwoo, I'd definitely hold out on buying one until the LE editions came out.
GDC is in a few days, i'm hoping for a few new news... i mean, its the biggest video game event before E3 and Reggie said we would learn some stuff before E3... where else could they do it unless they do some surprise announcement out of nowhere in april/may?
Hopefully he knew what he was saying that time.
Hopefully he knew what he was saying that time.
?? Do you mean the chozo home planet from metroid??
btw a new metroid game I wouldnt mind...
to be fair, i haven't played mario strikers much.
invaderzim69
Member
I miss the N64. I really like the design.
Is this one real?
It seems to be real.
Cos its still sold used for around 90$ "but it was rare by its time".
I by myself only remembered the version black n64 and gold controller in a package.
But your picture shows a real one!!
Here is a link for you.
Yes they released different limited editions for their systems...
http://www.consolecolors.com/nintendo.html
He said that there was a range of memory amounts being used in dev kits starting at 2GB (1GB for the retail console). But he didn't say what the top of that range was. He also said that the kit he had access to has the higher amount in that range, 3GB is the most likely amount (1.5GB in the retail version obviously).
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