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Metro: Redux |OT| Once more into the Metro, with feeling!
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Winter John
Gold Member
Selling their remastered versions for £30 and including all the dlc? Not selling internet memes or hats? Are they...Are they actually trying to give their customers a good deal? Are they mad? That's not how things work. They haven't even stripped out the in game weapons to sell as dlc! Jesus, somebody needs to put a stop to this insanity before it gets out of control.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Anyway, this is how Metro LL Redux PC looks
compared to original LL PC
Hope it looks better in motion, because that is waaay too bright and bloomy.
D
Deleted member 102362
Unconfirmed Member
I'd say wait for Redux.
TheChewyWaffles
Member
Great shooters made on a shoestring budget.
Dictator93
Member
Watching some let's plays..Textures in Metro 2033 PC
Textures in Metro 2033 Redux PC
Ok... now, tesselation in Metro LL and LL Redux PC
Original LL PC
LL Redux PC
WTF?
I can see they removed some of the volumetric lights and others not... so, hard to tell what has happened. But they are defniitely missing in some areas.
Also, a number of smoke clouds illuminated by lights have been replaced by billboard imposters. Ugh...
In fact, alot of the areas where lighting fwas formerly more cool and blue... is now yellow and pale.
If you like great atmospheric horror unique FPS games in the way like Half-Life, then the Metro games are for you
Nice this sounds great. What one would you suggest playing first 2033?
Dictator93
Member
Of course. Last Light builds directly 100% on that story and introduced characters.
BTW, watching a lot of the first 30 mins of 2033 redux, and a nubmer of things are missing in terms of volumetric particle placement and volumetric light placement :/
Yeah play them in order. The story of the second follows the story of the first.
Dries
Member
Textures in Metro 2033 PC
Textures in Metro 2033 Redux PC
Ok... now, tesselation in Metro LL and LL Redux PC
Original LL PC
LL Redux PC
WTF?
Wow. The original LL looks much better.
I don't know man, i like tesselation better in the original LL..
Anyway, this is how Metro LL Redux PC looks
compared to original LL PC
I agree with you, the tessellation looked better (if a tad exaggerated) in the original. The lighting in these two pictures seems to have undergone a massive downgrade.
What a shame, truly.
On PC as well?
Yes. Casualties of 2033 having been ported to their new engine.
It's unfortunate but the original versions will still be available to purchase.
It is a bit odd that some things are actually worse in the redux even on PC. I thought it would be a clear-cut case of taking everything good they had before and only improving from there. I don't see a reason for downgrading anything on PC because PC has options to turn off or scale back the more demanding effects. I am pretty excited for 2033 Redux but I'll have to see more about my financial situation and user impressions etc. now. Wasn't really expecting a compromise on PC. I do like the look of 2033 Redux (time of day etc changes to make the game look more appealing) but I was expecting it to be improvement only in every possible way and absolutely nothing held back from the originals. Still a very good deal and package for those who have not played these games yet, just have to see if this really is worth the money for me.
Yes.. in some places it is completely gone, in some parts it's intact.. well, atleast the outdoor sections are looking better than in the original 2033
moniker
Member
I feel the same way. I can get it for 10 on Steam right now but I'll think I'll wait for more impressions and comparisons first.
Same. I'll propably end up buying it because I have played through 2033 a few times and love the game and would like to experience it a little different and improved (talking gameplay improvements here), but I'll at least wait a bit for those comparisons
Dictator93
Member
Just play Redux, on average the improved character models, outdoor lighting, weapon models and animations, etc... should lend to a better experience. Even though it may be disappointing that they decided, for no reason, to cut off some effects here and there.
Consoles don't have any volumetric lights, so yes, on PC in some locations.
Prime example:
Metro 2033 original PC (volumetric light, cloth pyhsics, gun blast causes shadowing, blast shield can have bullet holes fired into it which cause volumetric lighting to pour through ala The Division)
http://a.pomf.se/esxdhr.webm
Metro 2033 Redux PC
http://a.pomf.se/rkewus.webm
I blame you consoles, I blame you so hard
Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut......what's the difference between Physx On/Off in Metro Redux?
http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/articles/gamescom-2014-metro-redux-gameworks
I hope Nvidia will release a proper article regard that Redux release. :O
backflip10019
Member
Been looking forward to this all summer. Definitely jumping in day one.
jacksepticeye
Member
Looking forward to playing 2033 again with all the new enhancements. I haven't played it in years
I hope they have not nerfed the sublime Physx effects of the original.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VafzR7JqO2I
Windom Earle
Member
Kinda bummed out that Redux has missing effects, but I am still pretty hyped for this.
Quoting myself from the other thread concerning discounted LL complete edition:
Quoting myself from the other thread concerning discounted LL complete edition:
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Super fucking lame.
I just want to know if they fixed the controller viewpoint movement.
Last Light had this awful thing going on where moving the viewpoint up or down translated at half the speed of moving it left or right. And if you were trying to move the viewpoint diagonally in any direction, it behaved like absolute shit.
Pretty much ruined the game for me.
This was in both the PC and PS3 SKUs.
Last Light had this awful thing going on where moving the viewpoint up or down translated at half the speed of moving it left or right. And if you were trying to move the viewpoint diagonally in any direction, it behaved like absolute shit.
Pretty much ruined the game for me.
This was in both the PC and PS3 SKUs.
Few bits of good news! I've heard that the guys over at 4A are now moving "en messe" over to their new Malta studios, and we will be able to get their insights on the development of the game once that settles down a bit.
Might be an update to the OT or maybe a different thread, but it's looking positive right now.
Additionally, Khalifa Jayy has a review thread up now for those who missed it.
Really bummed to see the missing effects in 2033 and maybe some weird tessellation issues in Last Light Redux. My best guess is that these things were gutted from the engine in future iterations as it became more console friendly and PC is getting the short end of the stick.
Might be an update to the OT or maybe a different thread, but it's looking positive right now.
Additionally, Khalifa Jayy has a review thread up now for those who missed it.
Really bummed to see the missing effects in 2033 and maybe some weird tessellation issues in Last Light Redux. My best guess is that these things were gutted from the engine in future iterations as it became more console friendly and PC is getting the short end of the stick.
Dictator93
Member
Drama Zed Nod
Member
Hold on... what's the situation here?
Is the consensus that the Redux version of 2033 on PC is superior but the Redux version f LL isn't?
I thought the new version of the engine as well as stuff like global illumination was suppose to be a major improvement (and it looked like it from that comparison video they released a few weeks back).
Tell me it aint so GAF, i was super pumped to play through both of these on PC.
Is the consensus that the Redux version of 2033 on PC is superior but the Redux version f LL isn't?
I thought the new version of the engine as well as stuff like global illumination was suppose to be a major improvement (and it looked like it from that comparison video they released a few weeks back).
Tell me it aint so GAF, i was super pumped to play through both of these on PC.
D
Deleted member 102362
Unconfirmed Member
Really? That's a helluva downgrade.
Dictator93
Member
Some parts look better, some parts have less advanced effects.
On average, the texture work, charactermodels, tesselation, and modelling in general should be much better in PC 2033 Redux.
But as has been shown, some volumetric lights are not placed, and a number of volume particle effects are not placed.
SniperHunter
Banned
60 FPS videos of the PC version
http://www.gamersyde.com/news_our_pc_videos_of_metro_redux-15748_en.html
http://www.gamersyde.com/news_our_pc_videos_of_metro_redux-15748_en.html
Dictator93
Member
Thx a lot SniperHunter. I will make comparison webms from this content.
Ok but this
2033 Redux
http://a.pomf.se/kpritg.webm
2033 Original
http://a.pomf.se/nibpvq.webm
And this
Are reasons to be scared, is way better on the original versions.
Is it really "way better"? Turn down the bloom on the Redux version (which is in-part due to the global illumination system they added) it looks nearly identical.
As for 2033 goes, it's no surprise that volumetric lighting was removed as it was done so in Last Light to achieve better performance across the board. Keep in mind 2033 original is a terribly optimized game that only the beefiest of pieces can chug through.
You're fear-mongering and saying "4A lied to us" is simply disingenuous.
SolidChamp
Banned
This is selling at a steal of a price over here in Taipei, so I've got it on preorder. I can't wait. I played Metro LL briefly when it was released as a free PS+ game, and I had played enough of it to know I would really enjoy it, but didn't finish it.
What are the primary differences between the first Metro and Last Light, in terms of characters/story/game play?
Is it essential to play the first one to give more context to the story in LL?
What are the primary differences between the first Metro and Last Light, in terms of characters/story/game play?
Is it essential to play the first one to give more context to the story in LL?
Dictator93
Member
This is and has been patently proven false. The volumetric lighting is just high qualtiy, hence why it "runs" "poorly."
Now-a-days it is quite simple to get a flat 60fps in Metro 2033. I can for exmple.
Also, volumetric lighting was not removed in Last Light, just used more sparingly.
GavinUK86
Member
The first comparison, the camp fire, looks way better in Redux. The outside scene though looks worse.
But
That is a load of shite.