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Spencer on Fortnites XBO/PS4 Crossplay "I would have liked to see them leave it on"
- Thread starter Gowans
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Right, so here's the thing... in order for this direction of conversation to make sense, you'd basically need to assume that Spencer doesn't actually want Fortnite to be crossplay with PS4 and/or PC. Based on their own offerings, those of other studios with crossplay, and his statements... does this actually sound like a reasonable assumption to you?
If crossplay is removed from XB1's Fortnite due to a policy issue, then yes, the ball likely is in MS' court... however we have no idea what that ball even looks like, and it's very likely not directly associated to crossplay itself, but something Epic requires to facilitate it. For a reverse example, Sony doesn't get the Better Together update for Minecraft, not because they don't allow updates, but because they don't allow something that is a stipulation for the update (crossplay with Xbox). For a potentially fictional example, let's assume Epic wishes to push Fortnite updates in a manner that MS doesn't allow on XB1 (but Sony does on PS4)... this could result in crossplay being pulled from the XB1 version, as Epic doesn't want each time a player sends an invite to an XB1 player, it'd only work if they are on the same version of the game, which they now no longer have complete control over.
The point is, that we don't know what the policy that prevents XB1+PC crossplay on Fortnite is... but its quite clearly not "no XB1+PC crossplay", so using it as a point of dismissal in a conversation that deals exclusively with crossplay is disingenuous. And this is precisely why vague "remove due to policy" notes are not usually added... because without further details, people come up with all sorts of bullshit of their own, such as the popular "they require an XBL login on all platforms" type stuff.
The bolded would make zero sense. Else Rocket League, Gwent and other crossplay games couldn't be.
Head.spawn
Junior Member
It's deductive logic based on what they said in the past in regards to FF XIV:
1) about their stance on keeping the community TOGETHER
2) the fact that they don't want to make seperate servers specifically for Xbox users
3) fact that Sony currently isn't supporting PS4 to Xbox crossplay....
If those three points lead you to believe they'll do an Xbox port as soon as their certification needs are met; I don't know what to tell ya. Maybe you have insider sources that are going to tell us the FF XIV port is on the way?
I wasn't referring to Fortnite at all here, I was only talking about FF XIV in my reply to that person. No idea how you keep trying to push the argument there... literally a completely random strawman, I have no idea how my reply about FF XIV relates to Epic or Fortnite and it's pretty clear that I didn't imply there was a correlation.
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It's funny though, instead of actually addressing what I'm typing your first choice was to go look up my post history... oh shit, nothing there when you find out I game on PS4 Pro, Switch, PC and Xbox, then you go for "Junior Member", like I give a damn, there's probably a good reason for it btw, but it's not what you think (ask a mod). Then when all else fails, push another argument that I wasn't making with you?
The good guy Phil stuff is impossible to separate into fanatical fanboyism and sarcasm.
Also, the quote should probably be "I, as an exec of the console with the significantly weaker market presence, would love to undermine one of my competitor's biggest advantages."
Sony sucks for refusing this but MS 100% would in their position too. It's probably never gonna happen.
Slackerish
Member
Saw these for his replies on twitter. Guess if you line them up with the patch notes that had been removed...
Thread: https://twitter.com/onealja/status/894632139370577920
@FortniteGame why was cross play removed for xbox one and PC. I'm upset because now I can't play with my friends.
Darren Sugg‏ @DarrenSugg Aug 7
Replying to @onealja @FortniteGame
The reason is in our patch notes. I haven't given up though. (That may not mean anything though...)
Thread: https://twitter.com/Guenhwyvarrrr/status/894656767002525696
@FortniteGame Still no response on the removal of #crossplay ?
Darren Sugg‏ @DarrenSugg
Replying to @Guenhwyvarrrr @FortniteGame
Check our patch notes for more details on that.
MrCaliaztec
Member
You're in a thread that completely pertains to Fortnite.... how is that a strawman when it's literally the point of the thread? I mean you came into a thread about Fortnite/MS/Crossplay and you mention FFXIV but you don't actually have anything to say on the actual thread besides your assumptions based on old reports of FFXIV but being in a thread about Fortnite and crossplay why wouldn't it actually be about the thread topic...
That's why I bring up Fortnite it's literally what this thread is about. I don't know what has you so hung up on FFXIV but excuse me for figuring when your first chimed in that it would be something to do with what the actual thread was about which is why all my replies mention Fortnite and MS to the only way that the thread actual entails....
Why cant that dude or EPIC say "Due to policy, MS and PS players cannot play together"?
Even better, I'm hoping MS/Sony will say one day "We are happy to announce FREE MULTIPLAYER IS BACK...no more pay to play!" How about we push these asshole companies to do that? We all want it, sure they make so much money now but I am not a stock holder so fuck that. Why isnt the gaming community pushing for that? Its sorta like affordable heath care. It should be included in the box, not an extra fee.
Hmm, so that's referencing the patch notes they rescinded. All very strange.
Head.spawn
Junior Member
Because it was a reply to someone talking about the situation with FF XIV and my post was only about FF XIV.
It's a strawman because your replies don't pertain specifically to me and your arguments literally has nothing to do with the post I replied to or the content of my actual post. Notice how I still haven't made a rebuttal to you about Epic? Because I wasn't talking about that in that post
My bad for thinking you had actually read my posts though. No idea why you think that was my first post in the thread either, I guess that just means you didn't read the thread either, lol
Take care.
Ploid 3.0
Member
You have my sword. I'm stuck to PC on multiplayer. I refuse to buy PS+, I'm not going to be a part of the problem. (serious, but they're never going back. Rest in peace free Playstation MP).
CountAntonius
Member
Microsoft have been asked and they said they are okay with it. They are implementing it in Minecraft and which allows ios, android and switch to play together. They have also given the okay to Rocket league where they will have cross console play with Switch owners as well as PC. While PS4 can only play with PC players. Reality is Microsoft is not only "playing the good guy" as the narrative goes they are actually letting developers do it.
Knightmarre
Member
I honestly don't care about cross-platform play unless the game needs it (MMO's).
It really should be up to the devs to force Sony and MS to cooperate.
No game needs it. This is gaming. Necessity is nil for just about every feature. This is about gamers and developers wanting it.
It's on everyone to show their demand for it if they want it. That's what we're doing.
Babaganoush
Banned
Crossplay between every platform would be a beautiful thing. Too bad the ceo's of the video game consoles don't agree.
longdi
Banned
Shitty agenda by MS and nice guy phil. The same company that wants to ringfenced users into their windows store.
Damn those sinister agendas that give consumers what they want! Damn them all to hell!
Stop defending them CookTrain, if their agenda wasn't shitty they would have first party games on Steam like Sony does.
Knightmarre
Member
I wonder if there are consumers that don't want crossplay or do you speak for them all?
Oh I know there are certainly people that don't want crossplay. They show up in these threads quite often. I'm not sure I've heard a single good reason why, but I know they exist.
Obviously in context, I'm talking about the pro-crossplay people.
Fair point, fair point
Thank you based Sony for protecting my PS4 from all of the filthy X-box gamers.
/s
Head.spawn
Junior Member
Crossplay can be an opt-in feature. They could throw in with parental settings or somewhere for a default system level option or on a game-per basis devs could always give you the option.
Ploid 3.0
Member
I wonder if this would split the player base a lot actually. Players playing competitively wanting to play with equal hardware (controller vs mouse/kb), and equal hardware performance (30fps vs 144+fps), don't want to deal with lack of voice chat for "strategy", etc.
I wanted a PS2 only server for FFXI because the PC players had awesome add-ons, and I wanted a way to avoid currency farmers (group of people that farm and sell in game currency 24-7, using whatever apps and tools to get an advantage. It was hard to compete with their army of drones). Microsoft seem to require a xbox only option, but Sony doesn't.
Louis Cyphre
Banned
I'm still trying to make heads or tails of these tweets by Sweeney months ago,
http://wccftech.com/sweeney-platforms-embrace-crossplay-sony/
Apparently some people here feel the xbone really needs some ps4 friends.
That is such a tremendously bad read on what everyone has been saying that one might assume you are posting in bad faith.
Babaganoush
Banned
I agree, but at least he releases his games on pc!
Liliana Eileen
Member
Literally nobody in this topic is saying that. You're trying way too hard there.
Head.spawn
Junior Member
Yeah, same. I couldn't tell if he was genuinely saying he wonders if there is more to it or if he was actually insinuating there is definitely more to it. He's usually not so vague/cryptic.
He was spot on with this one though:
Very relevant considering Rocket League is now adding an in-client based party system.
PeregrinSe7en
Member
same. its no big deal.
pretty much. put the focus on first party efforts, thats all that really matters for them at this time.
nikos
Member
This.
He knows it's not a possibility at the moment, so there's no harm in saying what people want to hear.
SmoothRunningGun
Member
How does he explain MS blocking PC/X1 crossplay in the same fucking game? You guys are real gullible with his bullshit.
Too many pages to read through, huh?
privitsan02
Member
At this point, I really don't care.
Phil would do the same as Don did last generation if they were leading right now and vice versa with Andrew House.
Just continue plan with your friends on which platform you want to game on. There are far more important things Sony need to address within their own infrastructure first, (like their store being absolute garbage, no refunds, psn name change, etc).
Best wishes.
Phil would do the same as Don did last generation if they were leading right now and vice versa with Andrew House.
Just continue plan with your friends on which platform you want to game on. There are far more important things Sony need to address within their own infrastructure first, (like their store being absolute garbage, no refunds, psn name change, etc).
Best wishes.
Liliana Eileen
Member
Read the thread next time instead of shitposting.
yukianderson
Member
captainraincoat
Banned
Why do these threads always turn into list wars and salty sony fans pointing out that ms was not allowing crossplay last gen?
If my network was full of holes like psn was last gen id be wary of intergration as well...cant say i still trust psn considering your ip address is visible to the public whenever you are in party chat
I think people need to look at the bigger picture rather than trying to defend a shitty buisiness decision
If my network was full of holes like psn was last gen id be wary of intergration as well...cant say i still trust psn considering your ip address is visible to the public whenever you are in party chat
I think people need to look at the bigger picture rather than trying to defend a shitty buisiness decision
Liliana Eileen
Member
Agreed.
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