Same. I don't really care for these names like Orbis and Vita. Just nice and simple Sony. I think it's easier for brand recognition too to just call it Playstation 4.
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Rumor: New PS4 details from PSM3 Magazine.
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Same. I don't really care for these names like Orbis and Vita. Just nice and simple Sony. I think it's easier for brand recognition too to just call it Playstation 4.
Chuck Norris
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I'd keep my expectations in check about either system retaining BC
SolarPowered
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You'd think this post wouldn't exist in an era where we have a console named "Wii".
Skel1ingt0n
I can't *believe* these lazy developers keep making file sizes so damn large. Btw, how does technology work?
I had a Tungsten T|3 back in the day; and the T|5 release is the reason I knew they'd never call the next Playstation the PS4.
Zekra Dezivad
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Gran Turismo 4, MGS4, Final Fantasy IV, Dragon Quest IV, Devil May Cry 4 and so on...
never existed in japan
we.are.the.armada
Member
400 to 500 EUR? No backward compatible, in-game advertised, no "used" games (or rental or borrowing from a friend/relative, perhaps)...?
Well, the games had better be fucking awesome to compensate.
Well, the games had better be fucking awesome to compensate.
we.are.the.armada
Member
I know right, it's going to be PC codes or something?
SlowRevolution
Member
No BC? I have the first PS3 that's gigantic, I'm really hoping that's not true and I can finally get rid of it. That + the cable box take up way too much space.
we.are.the.armada
Member
Yeah it'd have to be like FFVI or FFVII remake on launch day or something. First thing parents will do is ask, "Can they play their old nintendos on this new one?" haha, damn...
flyinpiranha
Member
Man, I really hope this is just rumor speculation. No BC and having to register every game would make me not purchase it at all. Usually at the start of the generation I'll re-up my Gamefly subscription.
I hope this isn't what MS is thinking of doing.
I hope this isn't what MS is thinking of doing.
BruiserBear
Banned
riiiiiiight
This.
NinjaBoiX
Member
You've got to realise how bespoke the Cell's architecture is. Software based emulation would be incredibly difficult, and the other option of cramming ps3 guts in the box is probably not a popular one at Sony.
every single rumor we had points toward a change in architecture, and with that it will be almost certain that we won't have bc
Bomber Bob
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total BSs
JustAnotherOtaku
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Can't see them launching at that price again, regardless of what is under the hood.
Roland Deschain
Member
It's the Circle of Life.
Goldrusher
Member
Yeah, it needs to be €699 with a new one every year. People seem to like that.
The catalog out of the box, excluding PS4 games, will probably be PSone + PS2 + Cloud games (PS3?) + minis + maybe PSM. So there'll be a good bit of legacy content.
Of course, full BC across the board would be the ideal, but it's not going to happen. Either way there'll be some supplementary content options beyond the initial PS4 games.
grimshawish
Banned
To be fair my views on B/C have changed recently.
I don't think it makes or breaks a platform at all. After all the PS3 library won't sell a PS4 to PS3 users OR non-PS3 users. Either way its not PS4 games.
Whilst they can offer PS3 games over download.
The only issue is not wanting multiple systems under one unit. Which I don't think doesn't play a part in a buyers decision BUT again; you won't get a PS4 unless you want the games, at which point buying a 720 and WiiU have the same issue; two systems instead of one.
Certainly B/C should never be used where it might raise the price of the system too far.
I think its nice - but ultimately for the 720/PS4's of this world its a price that is in no way worth paying.
Q
Queen of Hunting
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Dunno why everyone is gonna be suprised at no BC they took it out of ps3 to do crappy hd ports that people are buying into or make u buy game again
Wax Free Vanilla
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There's a reason why the next issue is the last one. Shit magazine.
Same.
The workarounds to get backwards compatibility to work seem to be becoming more and more obscure. Of the last few consoles and handhelds to be released, I'd say only the 3DS has anything like a "natural" attitude towards BC, and even then DS enthusiasts say the quality of playing DS games on 3DS is nowhere near as good as on a native DS.
It strikes me as a problem the console manufacturers don't want anymore. I wouldn't be even remotely surprised should the Orbis and Durango launch with no support for the PS3 and 360, beyond PSN and Live Arcade stuff.
MarshMellow96
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Probably total bullshit, but that sounds like Ubisoft 2009: The Console. Would not buy.
Chuck Norris
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Full BC might become a reality through Gaikai. I don't see it happening as part of the hardware
Unless they figure out some mix between hardware and software emulation like MS did for 360
astroturfing
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no BC at all would be quite depressing.
as we all know PS3s don't last forever, so in the future if i ever want to play games like Demon's Souls or Wipeout HD i have to keep buying PS3s after one breaks? while also probably having to buy new PS4s because they probably won't last many years either...
someone suggested that Sony could have BC in the cloud, like having access to play PS2 games as part of a Playstation Plus subscription. i think that could be a decent compromise (as long as it's cheap). maybe PS3 games could also be added? or is that unrealistic?
as we all know PS3s don't last forever, so in the future if i ever want to play games like Demon's Souls or Wipeout HD i have to keep buying PS3s after one breaks? while also probably having to buy new PS4s because they probably won't last many years either...
someone suggested that Sony could have BC in the cloud, like having access to play PS2 games as part of a Playstation Plus subscription. i think that could be a decent compromise (as long as it's cheap). maybe PS3 games could also be added? or is that unrealistic?
Rhazer Fusion
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If rumors that Sony is focused on affordable console (after losing $350 per PS3) are true (and considering the state of their company they most likely are), it's not strange that they are cutting all features that increase costs.
No BC most likely means no BC through standard means (software/hardware emulation). This will most likely be done via Gaikai.
In-game advertising could be a way for Sony to establish Playstation as go-to console for F2P games that will no doubt gain momentum in the coming years.
Regarding price, $500 is a suicide. $299-399 is a sweet spot.
No BC most likely means no BC through standard means (software/hardware emulation). This will most likely be done via Gaikai.
In-game advertising could be a way for Sony to establish Playstation as go-to console for F2P games that will no doubt gain momentum in the coming years.
Regarding price, $500 is a suicide. $299-399 is a sweet spot.
NinjaBoiX
Member
Yeah, I'm pretty sure no BC is real, it just makes sense if you look at the facts.
But no second hand games? Congrats Sony, you just lost a customer. They can fuck off if they think I'm paying whatever they ask, no questions asked. Right off!
phosphor112
Banned
Pretty much. This shit was rumored a while back...
Not buying into that one either. If they went that route, they should just go ahead and use 'Shi' in the name. Only add a t on the end, because that is what it would amount to.
Hellsing321
Member
If this stuff is true the Wii U may be my only next gen system. I'll use the money I would have spent on the PS4 to continue to upgrade my PC.
ComputerMKII
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Bye bye Sony!
Tallshortman
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Not going to lock out used games. This article is wrong based purely off that.
The Mana Legend
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Assuming these are true (which I doubt), Sony is fucking stupid.
flyinpiranha
Member
I didn't realize the no BC thing was a given, but looking at the reasoning I can see why. Sad, I was going to play TLoU and TLG on my PS4 ...
Barkley's Justice
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PSM3 < PSM4