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ThLunarian
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(09-26-2017, 04:50 AM)
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I had a business idea and borrowed money to get it started, but right now it looks like my idea might not work.

So now I have $40,000 that I borrowed from banks and, assuming that I'm right and my original idea won't work, I am looking for other ideas.

I like to play board games and puzzles. I've been into Magic the Gathering for 23 years. I follow politics very closely and consider myself a left wing social justice warrior. I am a licensed CPA but I don't have enough experience to open my own firm and I'm starting to think that it was the wrong career for me because accounting is boring. I like musical theory but I'm not very talented at performing. I really enjoy ballroom dancing and spent 9 months as an instructor at Arthur Murray. I am not very charismatic in person usually. I am an okay writer, but not good enough to make a career of it. I currently own three houses, two of which I am renting out at a tiny profit, and I am interested in eventually acquiring more real estate but I don't think I have enough capital to actually do that. I think I would make a great director for either movies or theater but I have no idea how to hone that skill.

I am paying interest on this money so I can't just give it away.

I don't want to invest it in some other business because I can't make a living off of that.

I am not a rich man so $40k is just about all I'll be able to spare.

That's all. I'm just looking for ideas here. Thanks folks

Edit: since many people have asked or have not realized that there was an idea originally, the idea was to start a futures market on Magic the Gathering cards, letting people buy options for them so they can speculate without actually buying the cards.

I took my time researching and developing a business plan and a schedule of cash flows. I submitted all of it to the bank, which granted my loan.

You can never plan for everything though, and a problem I was unable to foresee came up, rendering my plan unlikely to work.

And the reason I typed that long paragraph talking about myself was to help people come up with ideas related to things I enjoy. It was not intended as a display of relevant skills. But that doesn't seem like it's going to happen, and now it's looking like I will just return the money if my original idea becomes non-viable. So it goes.

Edit 2: I found a way to overcome the obstacle that was in the way of my original idea. So there is no need for a backup plan at this point. Thanks to everyone who had constructive advice for me.
Purple Cheeto
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(09-26-2017, 04:50 AM)
Return it?
Kraftwerk
(09-26-2017, 04:50 AM)
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TraBuch
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(09-26-2017, 04:51 AM)
This seems like a bad idea.
Angelus Errare
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(09-26-2017, 04:51 AM)
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Give it back until you get a solid plan/idea, draft a business proposal including how much you need for that particular business idea, then take out a loan in that amount from the bank.

The longer you sit on that money the more likely you're going to dip into it.
EmmanuelMunoz
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(09-26-2017, 04:51 AM)
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You did this in the wrong order, OP.

Idea first then the money. Not the other way around.
Cyan
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(09-26-2017, 04:51 AM)
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Pay off your loans immediately and bail the fuck out Jesus Christ dude.
UltraMagnanimous
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(09-26-2017, 04:52 AM)
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Return it. Come back to the banks when you have a new business plan.
F34R
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(09-26-2017, 04:52 AM)
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Sounds like a good scenario to pay that loan back asap.
brentech
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(09-26-2017, 04:52 AM)
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Don't take money you can't pay back.
Mass_Pincup
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(09-26-2017, 04:52 AM)
Give it back before the interest gets to high.
GameAddict411
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(09-26-2017, 04:52 AM)
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I hope the interest is based on an APR interest rate, and not a fixed one. I would advise to pay back the bank. You should have thought things through before taking the money. Seems very irresponsible to me.
FUME5
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(09-26-2017, 04:52 AM)
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What was your initial business idea?
BernardoOne
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(09-26-2017, 04:52 AM)
Return it. If your original idea won't work, you're not going to find anything right now asking in random internet forums. Don't put yourself into debt.
Jarrod38
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(09-26-2017, 04:52 AM)
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Open up a rental store.
hollomat
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(09-26-2017, 04:53 AM)
This is a terrible idea. Pretty sure the terms of the loan prevent you from doing what you describe as well.
UnemployedVillain
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(09-26-2017, 04:53 AM)
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You borrowed...before having a sound idea?
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Pai Pai Master
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(09-26-2017, 04:53 AM)
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Pay that back immediately lol

Then take some business courses or something I dunno just learn how bank loans work first before you start another venture.

Or open up a Blockbuster Video franchise because that's probably a better idea than going onto an online video game forum for ideas on how to shape your future.
KyanMehwulfe
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(09-26-2017, 04:53 AM)
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mmmmmm pretty much every business loan I've ever heard of has pretty strict terms and the conditions of the loan are specific to a specific business plan...

so, you may want to go speak to your lender first because you could be in breach of your loan terms for anything other than the original business plan.
Toki767
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(09-26-2017, 04:53 AM)
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You're paying interest on money you borrowed...

Sounds like you should give it back.
criesofthepast
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(09-26-2017, 04:53 AM)
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Buy $40,000 of Bitcoin.
Luminaire
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(09-26-2017, 04:53 AM)
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Donate it to me.

Or return it.

Both are really great ideas.
Slayven
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(09-26-2017, 04:53 AM)
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Some one gave you 40k without a solid business plan?
DietRob
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(09-26-2017, 04:53 AM)
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40k is not a lot to start a business. I would consider just paying back the loan if you are not going to follow thru with the idea you borrowed the money for.

What was that business idea and why is it not feasible anymore?
GameAddict411
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(09-26-2017, 04:53 AM)
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Originally Posted by KyanMehwulfe

mmmmmm pretty much every business loan I've ever heard of has pretty strict terms and the conditions of the loan are specific to a specific business plan...

so, you may want to go speak to your lender first because you could be in breach of your loan terms for anything other than the original business plan.

Also this^^^
Tagyhag
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(09-26-2017, 04:53 AM)
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I think I would make a great director for either movies or theater but I have no idea how to hone that skill.

I feel like we're being trolled here...
Lunarwhale
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(09-26-2017, 04:53 AM)
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please post the interest rate along with the thought process that led to "crowdsourcing business ventures on video game forum"

(please don't be playing us)
Tagg9
(09-26-2017, 04:53 AM)
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How the fuck did you convince banks to loan you $40k without a solid idea of how you'd spend/invest it?
CarpeDeezNutz
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(09-26-2017, 04:54 AM)
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Yo give it back man do not spend any of it
Lemon Crest
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(09-26-2017, 04:54 AM)
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Cart before the horse.
cress2000
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(09-26-2017, 04:54 AM)
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ctrl+z
TraBuch
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(09-26-2017, 04:54 AM)
Take half and bet it on red. Take the other half and bet it on black. That way you're guaranteed to win $20K.
Kraftwerk
(09-26-2017, 04:54 AM)
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Wait,

Can you even get a business loan without a business plan and all kids of shit prepared beforehand?
ThLunarian
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(09-26-2017, 04:54 AM)
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Originally Posted by EmmanuelMunoz

You did this in the wrong order, OP.

Idea first then the money. Not the other way around.

Originally Posted by Cyan

Pay off your loans immediately and bail the fuck out Jesus Christ dude.

Originally Posted by UltraMagnanimous

Return it. Come back to the banks when you have a new business plan.

Originally Posted by F34R

Sounds like a good scenario to pay that loan back asap.

Well that was fast. I guess that probably is my best bet. It just bums me out to think about going back to a normal 9-5 job again. Thanks guys
Dracula's Nether Region
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(09-26-2017, 04:54 AM)
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Why don't you host a Shark Tank GAF edition? I know you said you don't want to invest in other businesses, but gaffers can pay back and then some. You may even find the next tubshroom.
VendettaRed07
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(09-26-2017, 04:55 AM)
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How the fuck did you get that approved without telling them what you planned to do with it?
FallingEdge
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(09-26-2017, 04:55 AM)
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Lmao please be real
Randolph Freelander
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(09-26-2017, 04:55 AM)
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Pay it back right now.

Like literally this very instant.
Thaedolus
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(09-26-2017, 04:55 AM)
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Originally Posted by ThLunarian

Well that was fast. I guess that probably is my best bet. It just bums me out to think about going back to a normal 9-5 job again. Thanks guys

Like...what the fuck was the plan when you borrowed it? How did you explain what you were going to do with it in a way someone gave you that money?
BlazinSkatinAxel
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(09-26-2017, 04:55 AM)
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Give the money back. Make a business plan.







.......


Loan it to me.
Any Questions
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(09-26-2017, 04:55 AM)
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I would consider returning it. Wait for a real idea rather than having a huge pile of cash burning a hole in your pocket.

Saying that a friend of mine was onto a good mine when he opened up his mobile burger van. He worked a popular market and made around 50k a year for working a Saturday and Sunday morning at the market. Admittedly it was a very popular market but it was easy money.

Mobile food could be a plan, if you get it just right.
NervousXtian
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(09-26-2017, 04:56 AM)
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This doesn't sound right on so many levels.

If somehow you're not full of shit, then give the money back.. but they would have gone over your business plan pretty heavy before giving the cash.. unless it wasn't a business loan and you took it out against your home or homes.

Also, you're not rich.. but own 3 homes.

I'm a bit perplexed by just about every single line you wrote.
Sunster
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(09-26-2017, 04:56 AM)
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How on Earth did you get approved for a loan with no business plan?
DietRob
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(09-26-2017, 04:56 AM)
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Originally Posted by Kraftwerk

Wait,

Can you even get a business loan without a business plan and all kids of shit prepared beforehand?

Yea, if you put up one of your 3 houses which I imagine is what the OP did.
darklin0
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(09-26-2017, 04:56 AM)
Let me hold $100.

At least that way some good will come of this.
scorcher59
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(09-26-2017, 04:56 AM)
VEGAS BABY!!!! You might double or triple your money!
Lactose_Intolerant
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(09-26-2017, 04:56 AM)
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Vegas
compo
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(09-26-2017, 04:56 AM)
I'm not sure of the legality of getting a bank loan for a business plan, and then ditching the plan and using the money for something completely different. The bank probably wouldn't have loaned you the money in the first place if they knew you were going to do this.

Regardless, as somebody with $90k student loan debt, for the love of god, return the money. If you don't have a plan at all, then get a temp job for a year while you figure stuff out. Don't go $40k in debt on a whim.
Mephala
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(09-26-2017, 04:56 AM)
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You have all this nice stuff, a 40k debt and no business idea... But you still have the 40k in hand.

Think long and hard about what you can do and what you want to do. If you can't think of something, return the money before you accrue interest. Fuck, return it either way and borrow again later because you still need time to air out the idea and move from idea into plan.

Originally Posted by DietRob

Yea, if you put up one of your 3 houses which I imagine is what the OP did.

Return the money. -_-
McDougles
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(09-26-2017, 04:56 AM)
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Originally Posted by ThLunarian

Well that was fast. I guess that probably is my best bet. It just bums me out to think about going back to a normal 9-5 job again. Thanks guys

I need for you to tell me why you thought it was a good idea to get a huge loan and accrue interest before you had a business idea to use the money on.

It's going to kill me if I don't find out.

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