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WinterIsComing
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(03-20-2017, 12:18 PM)
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Beerus looking like a dog was really strange. Good episode though.
Japanmanx3
(03-20-2017, 01:01 PM)
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Originally Posted by Slaythe

Got you covered fam, the strongest competitor will be

Rutger
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(03-20-2017, 03:35 PM)
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Originally Posted by Kagari

We just had fusion in the last arc. Why would you want it again.

Fusions are a really fun concept, why wouldn't I want it again!

I don't need to see it in this arc though, fusions are at their best in goofier stuff imo.
Piers
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(03-20-2017, 03:54 PM)
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Originally Posted by Linkstrikesback

I'm ready for him to job it somehow even if he is.

Off-screen. Like everyone except for Goku and Vegeta.
'77 Shortbox
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(03-20-2017, 04:01 PM)
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Just watched the episode. Pretty easy to tell that Grand Priest is up to some hijinks and is manipulating Zeno.
Host Samurai
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(03-20-2017, 04:13 PM)
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Yeah, I'am kinda sick of fusion (Thanks Gotenks). It's too much of a "get of of jail free" card. I'am glad Super nerfed them.
Galactic Specter
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(03-20-2017, 04:20 PM)
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Originally Posted by LNBL

Herms tweet about 17 and when he will apear:

No.17 will be appearing in Super starting with ep.86, airing April 16th.

Epsilon-delta
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(03-20-2017, 04:24 PM)
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Originally Posted by '77 Shortbox

Just watched the episode. Pretty easy to tell that Grand Priest is up to some hijinks and is manipulating Zeno.

Well, it doesn't seem that hard to manipulate Zeno, he is a child afterall.

Surprised the multiverse of Dragon Ball didn't already go to shit before tbh.
caliph95
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(03-20-2017, 04:26 PM)
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Originally Posted by Epsilon-delta

Well, it doesn't seem that hard to manipulate Zeno, he is a child afterall.

Surprised the multiverse of Dragon Ball didn't already go to shit before tbh.

It's probably the Priest babysitting and minimising his shit.
ElFly
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(03-20-2017, 05:20 PM)
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the priest already had his hands full with containing only one Zeno and Goku went and brought another one
Host Samurai
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(03-20-2017, 05:23 PM)
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I just hope the next arc takes place in a bunch of different areas and settings. So far it seems like Super took place in the following places:

1) Neutral planet between U6/U7
2) Present Day Bulma's backyard
3) Future Bulma's backyard
4) Battle Royal Stage

I do love the settings in the in between episodes and filler. Hit's cyber punk city for example was pretty dope. City battles are not something that happens much in the series outside of Saiyman. Guess it makes sense to not fight in populated areas, but I miss destructive terrain's.

Also I can use an entire episode of powering up and yelling. That shit pumps me up to this day.
ZangBa
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(03-20-2017, 05:28 PM)
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40 hours seems absurd considering the other universes are unlikely to have special relationships with mortals in their universe like 7 does. They have to find 10 random people that quick and somehow get them all working together lol. Good fucking luck.
Kevinroc
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(03-20-2017, 05:36 PM)
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Originally Posted by ZangBa

40 hours seems absurd considering the other universes are unlikely to have special relationships with mortals in their universe like 7 does. They have to find 10 random people that quick and somehow get them all working together lol. Good fucking luck.

We have no idea what kind of relationship the other universes have between their Gods and their mortal champions.

It could be whatever they want.
ElFly
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(03-20-2017, 05:38 PM)
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Originally Posted by ZangBa

40 hours seems absurd considering the other universes are unlikely to have special relationships with mortals in their universe like 7 does. They have to find 10 random people that quick and somehow get them all working together lol. Good fucking luck.

well Beerus and Whis seemed to have a somewhat close following of who were the strongest mortals between Beerus' naps

assuming the other universes are better run, it'd be not rare if their gods have a good sense of who the strongest guys in their respective universes are

the angels do not seem to be omniscient, but at least seem to be able to discover anything they want to with their staves
Ogodei
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(03-20-2017, 05:39 PM)
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Originally Posted by B-Dubs

I mean, power being a factor makes sense but from the sound of it power is far from the most important part of the math.

I still say it's something like Enlightenment, which would include technology, but would also include holding views that agree with the Gods, so it makes sense why the more enlightened universes wouldn't attempt Time Travel even if human earth is apparently only 20 years away. Species that get that smart are usually godly enough to know better.
Annubis
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Originally Posted by ElFly

well Beerus and Whis seemed to have a somewhat close following of who were the strongest mortals between Beerus' naps

assuming the other universes are better run, it'd be not rare if their gods have a good sense of who the strongest guys in their respective universes are

the angels do not seem to be omniscient, but at least seem to be able to discover anything they want to with their staves

The Kais would be the ones usually tracking this I imagine.
Just have the Great Kai ask the Kais a list of their top men.
Icyflamez96
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(03-20-2017, 05:57 PM)
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How often did the show say "Zamas" instead of "Zamasu"
Host Samurai
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(03-20-2017, 06:00 PM)
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Beerus must feel like a doofus for being asleep while Buu was fucking shit up. Though maybe he wasn't a GoD by then. Also I wonder about Beerus & Champa's backstory. Are they legit brothers or are they just have a connection due to the twin universe thing? If it's the later than they must be from Universe 12, because there is a character in the intro that looks to be of the same race as Beerus and Champa.
shadowsdarknes
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(03-20-2017, 06:02 PM)
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Originally Posted by Host Samurai

Beerus must feel like a doofus for being asleep while Buu was fucking shit up. Though maybe he wasn't a GoD by then. Also I wonder about Beerus & Champa's backstory. Are they legit brothers or are they just have a connection due to the twin universe thing? If it's the later than they must be from Universe 12, because there is a character in the intro that looks to be of the same race as Beerus and Champa.

If Beerus sealed up the Elder Supreme Kai in the Z Sword, then he should have been a God when Buu was resurrected by Bibidi.
ZangBa
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(03-20-2017, 06:05 PM)
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Originally Posted by Icyflamez96

How often did the show say "Zamas" instead of "Zamasu"

I think that's because in some dialects the "u" is silent. Kinda like how Amaterasu goes both ways.
ElFly
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(03-20-2017, 06:40 PM)
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Originally Posted by Annubis

The Kais would be the ones usually tracking this I imagine.
Just have the Great Kai ask the Kais a list of their top men.

Well dunno

At least one universe seems. To have a mortal lined up to be the next GoD so I guess that's the angel handiwork
Rutger
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(03-20-2017, 08:18 PM)
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Originally Posted by Host Samurai

Yeah, I'am kinda sick of fusion (Thanks Gotenks). It's too much of a "get of of jail free" card. I'am glad Super nerfed them.

Is it really a "get out of jail free" card though?

Fusions have been far less successful than the many random powerups in the series.
Icyflamez96
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(03-20-2017, 08:27 PM)
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Originally Posted by ZangBa

I think that's because in some dialects the "u" is silent. Kinda like how Amaterasu goes both ways.

I gotta say that doesn't really answer my question :x
Host Samurai
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(03-20-2017, 08:29 PM)
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Originally Posted by Rutger

Is it really a "get out of jail free" card though?

Fusions have been far less successful than the many random powerups in the series.

For Toei? Yes. For Toriyama? You got a point, but why even use it than?
The Silver
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(03-20-2017, 08:34 PM)
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So what's the deal with U7 having 5 Supreme Kais before Buu cleaned house? Do other universes have more than one and we're only just seeing the dai kaioshin of their universe? Is there a minor retcon and U7 dai kaioshin was actually the real/only Supreme Kai and Shin and the others were in Zamasu's role?(oh wait the earrings) U7 Dai Kaioshin was probably a lazy bum and promoted a bunch of kais so he didn't have to do everything.
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(03-20-2017, 08:35 PM)
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Originally Posted by Kagari

We just had fusion in the last arc. Why would you want it again.

I think it's fun.
ArchedThunder
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(03-20-2017, 08:43 PM)
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Originally Posted by The Silver

So what's the deal with U7 having 5 Supreme Kais before Buu cleaned house? Do other universes have more than one and we're only just seeing the dai kaioshin of their universe? Is there a minor retcon and U7 dai kaioshin was actually the real/only Supreme Kai and Shin and the others were in Zamasu's role?(oh wait the earrings) U7 Dai Kaioshin was probably a lazy bum and promoted a bunch of kais so he didn't have to do everything.

My guess is that it's because Universe 7 is a garbage universe so they needed lots of Kaioshin. Universe 9 just doesn't give enough of a fuck.
Rutger
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(03-20-2017, 08:45 PM)
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Originally Posted by Host Samurai

For Toriyama? You got a point, but why even use it than?

Because it's a fun concept?
Toriyama playing around with sillier ideas is always enjoyable.

It's not a big loss to me if fusions don't get much use in Super, because at least the concept is the star of the best Dragon Ball video game, but it would be a shame if it was ignored.
We need Toriyama to say that fusions have found a way around increased power shortening the time limit if we want them to be relevant now(I do like that Potara's have a time limit now though, it'll get around needing a wish or "evil air" to reverse them, which would make them easier to fit into the story).
ZealousD
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(03-20-2017, 08:55 PM)
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Originally Posted by The Silver

So what's the deal with U7 having 5 Supreme Kais before Buu cleaned house? Do other universes have more than one and we're only just seeing the dai kaioshin of their universe? Is there a minor retcon and U7 dai kaioshin was actually the real/only Supreme Kai and Shin and the others were in Zamasu's role?(oh wait the earrings) U7 Dai Kaioshin was probably a lazy bum and promoted a bunch of kais so he didn't have to do everything.

Toriyama was lazy and/or forgot that the other universes were suppose to have more kais.

Also Super has written Shin like he's some newbie Supreme Kai even though we know he's been on the job for thousands of years.
Ogodei
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(03-20-2017, 08:59 PM)
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Originally Posted by ArchedThunder

My guess is that it's because Universe 7 is a garbage universe so they needed lots of Kaioshin. Universe 9 just doesn't give enough of a fuck.

More Kaioshin were appointed specifically to deal with Buu. Since he culled the herd back down to a normal level at the same time that he was sealed, Zeno decided to just leave it as is.
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(03-20-2017, 09:02 PM)
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Originally Posted by ZealousD

Toriyama was lazy and/or forgot that the other universes were suppose to have more kais.

Also Super has written Shin like he's some newbie Supreme Kai even though we know he's been on the job for thousands of years.

My theory is that only the Dai Kaoishin is the one that counts, and Shin is the current one due to Boo's meddling. I think Shin might've been somewhat like Zamasu was going to be before he went rogue.
Diablohead
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(03-20-2017, 09:33 PM)
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Got around to watching the current ep, really wanted goku to get destroyed so he would think twice about what's going on.. nope, should have expected it really.
LNBL
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(03-20-2017, 09:38 PM)
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What if Hit wins the Tournament for Universe 6 and wishes U7 earth to be transferred to his Universe 6. Would be a cool setup for a next arc haha
Chaotic-Strike
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Originally Posted by ZealousD

Toriyama was lazy and/or forgot that the other universes were suppose to have more kais.

Also Super has written Shin like he's some newbie Supreme Kai even though we know he's been on the job for thousands of years.

That is perfectly in-character considering how he handled Buu's revival.
Tamanon
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(03-20-2017, 09:54 PM)
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I wonder if the whole thing is going to end with some grand sacrifice by Goku to save the Universes.

Or he'll just win with a big ki blast.
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Originally Posted by LNBL

What if Hit wins the Tournament for Universe 6 and wishes U7 earth to be transferred to his Universe 6. Would be a cool setup for a next arc haha

I wouldn't be surprised if u7 loses and something like that happens because of goku's charm. Goku's ability to make friends with just about anybody does seem to be a consistent theme.
Just_myles
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(03-20-2017, 10:06 PM)
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So is the trounament arena going to be the size of a planet or really small? Seems weird that a free for all would be confined to a small space.
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(03-20-2017, 10:27 PM)
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Originally Posted by Just_myles

So is the trounament arena going to be the size of a planet or really small? Seems weird that a free for all would be confined to a small space.

Grand Priest said it would be a very large stage.
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Originally Posted by LNBL

What if Hit wins the Tournament for Universe 6 and wishes U7 earth to be transferred to his Universe 6. Would be a cool setup for a next arc haha

I'll be completely shocked if Hit doesn't job in the tournament.
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Originally Posted by Undead Fantasy

I'll be completely shocked if Hit doesn't job in the tournament.

Well, it is the Dragon Ball way, but as long as he puts up a good fight I can still be satisfied.
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Originally Posted by Undead Fantasy

I'll be completely shocked if Hit doesn't job in the tournament.

Goku vs Jiren.

Jiren is about to finish Goku off, after a well fought battle. An injured Hit comes out of nowhere and assassinates Jiren with his invisible ki blast.

He say's something like "No one steals my target" (Remember Hit is still hired to kill goku and said he would take his time)

Then we proceed to see a rematch between Goku vs Hit
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Originally Posted by ZealousD

Toriyama was lazy and/or forgot that the other universes were suppose to have more kais.

Also Super has written Shin like he's some newbie Supreme Kai even though we know he's been on the job for thousands of years.

That's almost undoubtedly the real reason lol

Regarding Shin, the kaioshin are gods, and presumably live for millions of years, if not forever

Who knows how long it takes to become a good kaioshin lol

Although we do know Shin has been around since "time immemorial" so really no excuses I guess
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Originally Posted by Omega Kirby

Goku vs Jiren.

Jiren is about to finish Goku off, after a well fought battle. An injured Hit comes out of nowhere and assassinates Jiren with his invisible ki blast.

He say's something like "No one steals my target" (Remember Hit is still hired to kill goku and said he would take his time)

Then we proceed to see a rematch between Goku vs Hit

I
Hit can't use his assassinates techniques in the tournament. If he kills anybody, even by accident, he's out.
ElFly
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(03-21-2017, 01:44 AM)
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Originally Posted by The Silver

So what's the deal with U7 having 5 Supreme Kais before Buu cleaned house? Do other universes have more than one and we're only just seeing the dai kaioshin of their universe? Is there a minor retcon and U7 dai kaioshin was actually the real/only Supreme Kai and Shin and the others were in Zamasu's role?(oh wait the earrings) U7 Dai Kaioshin was probably a lazy bum and promoted a bunch of kais so he didn't have to do everything.

my guess is that they were retconned to be the kaioh

remember that zamasu was a kaioh who got chosen to succeed the kaiohshin

so the other guys were the kaiohs, they got all killed or absorbed, the surviving east kaioh got upgraded to kaiohshin, and kai people of low stock got ascended to kaioh -explaining why King Kai is fat and ugly while Zamasu is tall and beautiful-

Originally Posted by ZealousD

Toriyama was lazy and/or forgot that the other universes were suppose to have more kais.

Also Super has written Shin like he's some newbie Supreme Kai even though we know he's been on the job for thousands of years.

Shin had no one around to educate him on his job. Zamasu had Gowasu, but the U7 Kaiohshin got killed before he could finish the education of whoever was supposed to succeed him -not necessarily Shin-

there's also the running theme of Shin being godawful at his job
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VanquishUK
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Originally Posted by Kagari

We just had fusion in the last arc. Why would you want it again.

We had Gotenks and Vegito in the same arc back in Z.
Icyflamez96
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caliph95
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Originally Posted by ElFly

my guess is that they were retconned to be the kaioh

remember that zamasu was a kaioh who got chosen to succeed the kaiohshin

so the other guys were the kaiohs, they got all killed or absorbed, the surviving east kaioh got upgraded to kaiohshin, and kai people of low stock got ascended to kaioh -explaining why King Kai is fat and ugly while Zamasu is tall and beautiful-

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Why didn't Beerus die then when the Supreme Kai died but GoD of U10 did when Gowasu died even though Zamasu was still alive
caliph95
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Originally Posted by Icyflamez96

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What Gohan was really thinking, the Saiyan line was just an excuse
Zubz
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Any screencaps of Dog Beerus? I tried searching for it & just kept finding pictures of Beerus as Snoop Dogg.

Originally Posted by Icyflamez96

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I genuinely can't see Gohan having any other canon opinion about his dad than his TFS one.
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Originally Posted by Icyflamez96

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Holy shit lol.

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