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Colonel Nasty
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(03-10-2017, 04:29 PM)
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This must be how Superman fans feel
Kabuki Quantum Lover
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(03-10-2017, 04:30 PM)
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Originally Posted by gforguava

I'm still looking forward to it, Buck be damned. Can't worse than Luke Cage.

It is totally going to worse than Luke Cage.

You shut your damn mouth!

Everything after Cottonmouth's death was garbage, so you're kind of right.
fallengorn
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(03-10-2017, 04:31 PM)
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Probably won't binge this as fast as the others. We'll see how it goes...
DrROBschiz
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(03-10-2017, 04:34 PM)
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Originally Posted by Kabuki Quantum Lover

You shut your damn mouth!

Everything after Cottonmouth's death was garbage, so you're kind of right.

yeah Luke Cage is guilty of more wheel spinning that JJones

that said i still ate it up and was entertained

DD season 2s final bits were the only thing that let me down and i still loved everything else that was going on outside of that scene

im ok with Iron Fist being average casual entertainment i just dont want it to go below that
Secret Character
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(03-10-2017, 04:35 PM)
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Originally Posted by Colonel Nasty

This must be how Superman fans feel

At least Cavil looks the part, man... As a Superman fan and a comic fan in general, this version of Iron Fist is right at the bottom of my expectation list. :(
Sir Doom
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(03-10-2017, 08:23 PM)
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oh boy here we go
expectation near zero
AndersK
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(03-10-2017, 08:25 PM)
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Pretty meta that Danny's show is sucky. They nailed it.

Not like this
Creamium
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(03-10-2017, 08:26 PM)
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I can't wait for the impressions. If it's really a trainwreck I may just watch for the comedy. I can't really imagine anything worse than JJ though.

Originally Posted by BoogieWoogie

I saw the first six episodes. If anything, the reviews are being kind.

holy shit
Kin5290
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(03-10-2017, 08:26 PM)
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Carrying over from the Previews thread.

Originally Posted by Saya

Yeah, an Asian Danny Rand doing kung fu would be great. As long as the character is treated with respect and made to be more than just being good at kung fu and kicking ass. Such a missed opportunity from Marvel...

Yeah, the thing I don't like about Asian Americans only being the nerd or the kung fu guy is that Asian American characters that are "the kung fu guy" are just the kung fu guy. An Asian American character could be kung fu and also have other character traits and motivations and that would be great, but too often "is good at kung fu" is their only defining characteristic.

Plus, Asian American kung fu guys are very rarely actual leads. They are often one note supporting characters, or love interests (if they are kung fu girls), but more often one note minor villains. Marvel Netflix is really awful at making its only Asian characters one note villains.

In this case, in the first 6 episodes that were reviewed there's only one Asian good guy and that's Colleen, who is a love interest that Danny acts condescendingly to (because that's... hot?), and everyone other Asian character is a bad guy.
Bits N Pieces
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(03-10-2017, 08:30 PM)
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I'm scared to watch it. I've loved the other Marvel/Netflix collaboration's and if Seppinwall doesn't even know if he'll finish it, well that's got me all shook up.

Damn it!
Bleepey
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(03-10-2017, 08:48 PM)
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Will this thread be as entertaining as the BVS/SS RT threads? I actually want this show to be good and i will give it a chance. I don't know how this show can be bad, just learn where Arrow fucked up.
Kimaka
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(03-10-2017, 09:17 PM)
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I really liked all of the other Marvel show, but I don't have high hopes for this one. Especially after reading that it is going down the mighty whitey trope route. It also doesn't help that the showrunner produced some of the worst television I've ever seen with Dexter.
NotTheGuyYouKill
(03-10-2017, 09:34 PM)
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Originally Posted by BoogieWoogie

I saw the first six episodes. If anything, the reviews are being kind.

Scott Buck.
Anung
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(03-10-2017, 09:39 PM)
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I'll either watch this to see how bad it is or let someone here take the bullet and and watch whatever bits they say are good good or bad good.

I'm prepared for the worst. Bad critic reviews must mean it's dire as fuck.
dead souls
(03-10-2017, 09:46 PM)
Not watching the show, but I'm subscribed to this thread. Ready to read the pain.
IrishNinja
(03-10-2017, 09:48 PM)
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Originally Posted by Slayven

They got Bride of 9 Spiders, so I am good

Originally Posted by Zelenogorsk

I will be skipping straight to episode 6 because of RZA.

okay, getting hopeful here again

Originally Posted by Brazil

Yeah, I'm not gonna watch this after Daredevil S2 and Luke Cage. Good luck, guys!

yeah, those were good, sooooo

Originally Posted by NotTheGuyYouKill

Scott Buck.

who?
NotTheGuyYouKill
(03-10-2017, 09:56 PM)
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Originally Posted by IrishNinja

okay, getting hopeful here again



yeah, those were good, sooooo



who?

Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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(03-10-2017, 10:03 PM)
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Originally Posted by Colonel Nasty

This must be how Superman fans feel

Incorrect. This is how Green Lantern fans felt.
F0rneus
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(03-10-2017, 10:04 PM)
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Originally Posted by IrishNinja

who?


BoogieWoogie
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(03-10-2017, 10:06 PM)
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Originally Posted by Creamium

holy shit

Long, boring boardroom shenanigans followed by some of the worst fight choreography I've seen.
SomeRandomAnon
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(03-10-2017, 10:23 PM)

Originally Posted by BoogieWoogie

Long, boring boardroom shenanigans followed by some of the worst fight choreography I've seen.

How bad is the fight choreography.
Like, i don't want to challenge your vision of it, this is more my last hopes, but couldn't it be that whenever Danny fights he goes for the more convoluted Kung Fu choreography

I mean, i watched the Coileen fight and it was pretty fucking terrible, but y'know how it is. While there’s life, there’s hope
IrishNinja
(03-10-2017, 10:27 PM)
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Originally Posted by NotTheGuyYouKill

Originally Posted by F0rneus


oh god, those reviews are making sense now
wait didn't we have dude on some other marvel netflix show though? cause they've had their problems but i've enjoyed all of em so far
Grizzlyjin
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(03-10-2017, 10:29 PM)
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Originally Posted by IrishNinja

oh god, those reviews are making sense now
wait didn't we have dude on some other marvel netflix show though? cause they've had their problems but i've enjoyed all of em so far

He's doing the Inhumans project that is filming right now.
LotusHD
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(03-10-2017, 10:37 PM)

Originally Posted by BoogieWoogie

Long, boring boardroom shenanigans followed by some of the worst fight choreography I've seen.

Welp...
BoogieWoogie
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(03-10-2017, 10:40 PM)
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Originally Posted by SomeRandomAnon

How bad is the fight choreography.
Like, i don't want to challenge your vision of it, this is more my last hopes, but couldn't it be that whenever Danny fights he goes for the more convoluted Kung Fu choreography

I mean, i watched the Coileen fight and it was pretty fucking terrible, but y'know how it is. While there’s life, there’s hope

It is entirely possible that somehow Iron Fist pulls a reverse Luke Cage and gets good in the latter half somehow but I don't see HOW based on the first episodes.

The problem is that they build Danny up to be a "Living Weapon", someone who was built for a very specific task that involves WRECKING people. What is shown is Finn Jones poorly attempting to do some spin kicks and nothing feels "heavy" like Daredevil. Hell, Jessica Jones had better fight scenes.
SomeRandomAnon
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(03-10-2017, 10:42 PM)

Originally Posted by BoogieWoogie

It is entirely possible that somehow Iron Fist pulls a reverse Luke Cage and gets good in the latter half somehow but I don't see HOW based on the first episodes.

The problem is that they build Danny up to be a "Living Weapon", someone who was built for a very specific task that involves WRECKING people. What is shown is Finn Jones poorly attempting to do some spin kicks and nothing feels "heavy" like Daredevil. Hell, Jessica Jones had better fight scenes.

Thats sad.
If you can't make your Kung Fu fights in your show about Magical Kung Fu Man look good, whats the point of it existing.

Is the RZA episode good at least?
More_Badass
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(03-10-2017, 10:54 PM)
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Sounds like I'll give this a pass. I really enjoyed Fraction's Iron Fist, actually it was the announcement of this show that got me to check out that series. I might just wait for people to highlight which (if any) episodes have decent fights

Hopefully the Defenders showrunner can do good things with Iron Fist. Daredevil Season 2 had those incredible hallway fights for Punisher and Matt. Only worry is that the fight choreographer for DD isn't working on Defenders

I read that Miguel Sapochnik (of Game of Thrones fame) directed an Iron Fist episode
Toa TAK
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(03-10-2017, 11:00 PM)
It's a huge bummer hearing how this has been received so far. I really love MCU's Netflix series, despite missteps, and are generally my favorite superhero tv shows. I think I'll still give it a go, but if it's that bad I probably won't binge it as I did the last three shows.
Choppasmith
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(03-10-2017, 11:04 PM)
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Well, like I said in the other thread, hopefully this dismal failure swiftly prompts Marvel to give Buck the boot, "cancel" Iron Fist and fast track a Heroes for Hire series.

I'm in a unique situation. Usually I've watched the Marvel Netflix shows with my Marvel fangirl sister, but I'm leaving to visit our mom in New Zealand who doesn't have Netflix. Last year I showed her Daredevil and Jessica Jones and she enjoyed then and especially LOVED the latter. I'll be watching the show blind with my mom this year. I'm hoping it could at least leave me the impression that there are good parts despite being the obvious weak link.
serenewarfare
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(03-10-2017, 11:17 PM)

Originally Posted by Dali

What do you get when you remove felicity from arrow and give olly love handles?

That's ridiculous.

The fight choreography in this is way worse than Arrow.
guek
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(03-10-2017, 11:34 PM)
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Originally Posted by Bleepey

Will this thread be as entertaining as the BVS/SS RT threads? I actually want this show to be good and i will give it a chance. I don't know how this show can be bad, just learn where Arrow fucked up.

I'll laugh for days if you end up loving this show :-P
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(03-11-2017, 12:22 AM)
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Originally Posted by Wazzy

I'm still so disappointed that Finn Jones is Iron Fist. I was okay with white casting but then they picked him of all people and I just don't think he is a good actor. Now with the show apparently not looking so great, there's nothing to really look forward to.

It made me want Lewis Tan as Danny.

i had doubts about finn when they cast him too

but i thought, marvel has been really spot on with their casting so i'd give him the benefit of the doubt

plus i was sooooooooooo looking forward to the costume

and now ..... ; __ ;

still gonna watch and hope even if they cop out on the fightings, maybe they will capture some of that cute humour







wazza, come to girlgaf discord sometime? <3
DukeLongfellow
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(03-11-2017, 12:32 AM)
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Only watched Jessica Jones out of the Marvel tv stuff. Thought it was alright even though it got increasingly tedious by the end.

As a complete Marvel casual I might take a look at this one day but I'll do it by binging MCU chronologically when everything comes out.

Also really dig the Defenders idea.
broncobuster
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(03-11-2017, 12:39 AM)

Originally Posted by Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew

Incorrect. This is how Green Lantern fans felt.

Hey, Green Lantern had a good cartoon and a prominent role in JO/JLU!

Iron Fist...well, he's a character in Marvel vs Capcom. There's an episode of Avengers EMH about him and Luke Cage.
darkhunger
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(03-11-2017, 01:19 AM)

Originally Posted by broncobuster

Hey, Green Lantern had a good cartoon and a prominent role in JO/JLU!

Iron Fist...well, he's a character in Marvel vs Capcom. There's an episode of Avengers EMH about him and Luke Cage.

Isn't he a major character in Ultimate Spider-Man too... eh... never mind.
Shaanyboi
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(03-11-2017, 01:20 AM)
I'm going to drink heavily beforehand.
Quick
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(03-11-2017, 01:23 AM)
Woo, I named a thread again! (great work as usual TheOddOne)

I've kept expectations to a minimum, so I'm still going to watch it.

Wish me luck, guys.
Blader
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(03-11-2017, 01:25 AM)
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Originally Posted by F0rneus

lmao, I forgot all about this.

That season was one of the worst things I've ever seen on TV. How many fucking times did Charlotte Rampling say the word psychopath?
milkham
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(03-11-2017, 01:29 AM)
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I'm down for a hatewatch
Ezalc
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(03-11-2017, 01:40 AM)
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I suffered through Luke Cage and Jessica Jones and Daredevil season 2. I'm going to watch this shit too. It was my most anticipated and goddamn it I want to see how much they fuck it up.
Hierophant
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(03-11-2017, 01:46 AM)
as an Asian dude I can't say I don't feel some degree of schadenfreude
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(03-11-2017, 01:47 AM)
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Originally Posted by Shaanyboi

I'm going to drink heavily beforehand.

Or... Just skip it and save your liver a world of pain
Zafir
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(03-11-2017, 01:58 AM)
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A real shame that this seems like it could be pretty mediocre. It could have been so good.
wandering
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(03-11-2017, 02:10 AM)

Originally Posted by Hierophant

as an Asian dude I can't say I don't feel some degree of schadenfreude

It's kind of a dodged bullet honestly
Kin5290
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(03-11-2017, 02:20 AM)
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Originally Posted by Hierophant

as an Asian dude I can't say I don't feel some degree of schadenfreude

I know, right?
Hierophant
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(03-11-2017, 02:28 AM)

Originally Posted by wandering

It's kind of a dodged bullet honestly

true, I bet they would use this as an example of why you can't have an Asian lead

though honestly it could have been alleviated if they didn't hire mr "dexter series finale".
Hierophant
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(03-11-2017, 02:39 AM)
from the previews, what I'm gathering is that danny rand is literally the "I'm an expert on Japanese culture honor and shame are a huge part of it" dude but substitute Japanese for all Asian culture and also how much better he is than Asians at martial arts.

honestly like even if an Asian lead who was real good at martial arts is sorta problematic, I would prefer that to a white boy who can't fight
Litan
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(03-11-2017, 02:41 AM)
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I hope this show fails hard. That should teach them to never put out nonsense like this again.
broncobuster
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(03-11-2017, 02:43 AM)

Originally Posted by Hierophant

from the previews, what I'm gathering is that danny rand is literally the "I'm an expert on Japanese culture honor and shame are a huge part of it" dude but substitute Japanese for all Asian culture and also how much better he is than Asians at martial arts.

honestly like even if an Asian lead who was real good at martial arts is sorta problematic, I would prefer that to a white boy who can't fight

Danny is this dude with bad beard.

serenewarfare
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(03-11-2017, 02:45 AM)

Originally Posted by Hierophant

as an Asian dude I can't say I don't feel some degree of schadenfreude

Originally Posted by wandering

It's kind of a dodged bullet honestly

Originally Posted by Kin5290

I know, right?

You guys know that Rand being white is part of his character, right? And a big part of his relationship with Cage.

Like yeah, they could have cast an Asian actor just for the sake of it, but Iron Fist is not an Asian character.

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