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By 2100, Deadly Heat May Threaten Majority of Humankind

Plum

Member
It's a tad bit disingenious to imply that climate change won't be a threatening issue until 2100. Resource wars, mass exodus from hotter countries, crop failure, etc are going to fuck us ovee long before then.
 

teh_pwn

"Saturated fat causes heart disease as much as Brawndo is what plants crave."
Now's my chance to buy up a ton of property in Buffalo...Lake Erie acts as a natural air conditioner in the summers. I'll have it made!

We probably will see a revival period in the rust belt as these mega cities in the southwest run out of water.
 

Theonik

Member
I know this is gonna sound terrible but surely in 80 years the world will have figured out a way to deal with that kinda problem?
We noticed the problem as early as the 1920s yet did nothing to fix it and are only moving now to mitigate it. Any effort we invest in now will take about 40 years to bear fruit. We must act now to save the future. In believing the future will solve this then there will never be a solution.

We may destroy our planet but we will never lose our satire.
Humans can't actually destroy the planet. The planet will be fine and will recover in a few millennia which is nothing in planetary scale.
It is we that are under threat.
 
The title sounds scary but... the article says 30% of the world's population already faces deadly heatwaves, but it's not like 30% of the world is dying out each year from heat. Obviously shit sucks, but threaten the majority of mankind sounds a bit sensational.

Wouldn't be a global warming thread without condescending sensationalism
 

TyrantII

Member
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Sad thing is this is from a time where the idiots were ridiculed with blistering satire and our politicians actually passed laws to fix the CFC problem.

Imagine the debate today, nothing you get done and filtering out the use of CFCs would be called job destory over regulation.


It's a tad bit disingenious to imply that climate change won't be a threatening issue until 2100. Resource wars, mass exodus from hotter countries, crop failure, etc are going to fuck us ovee long before then.

Already happening.

The Arab Spring was influenced by a round of droughts and crop failures, pushing people into cities. Syria and ISIS are results of a worse second round.
 
Humanity is probably going to go underground or underwater, where we have more control over the elements around us. At least with current trends of technology development.

A better future, underground!

I'm actually hoping by the year 2100 we've managed to make our way off the planet by living in a space station or two and a large moonbase.
 

Croatoan

They/Them A-10 Warthog
We figured out the solution decades ago, it was to reduce carbon emissions to prevent climate change. Nobody listened.

What you're proposing is the global equivalent of calling the fire brigade to a burning house. Even if we figure out how to stop it the damage caused will be significant and likely irreversible.

Uhh, no. Learning to control our planet's weather and temp is part of our future. The only way we become a type 1 civilization is by doing so. While people like you hand wring and doomsay because "Nobody Listened" some scientist is figuring it out somewhere. Humanity as a whole will be perfectly fine. A combination of the coming Solar Revolution, world wide common sense pollution control, and depopulation will slow things. Science will fix the rest.
 
Uhh, no. Learning to control our planet's weather and temp is part of our future. The only way we become a type 1 civilization is by doing so. While people like you hand wring and doomsay because "Nobody Listened" some scientist is figuring it out somewhere. Humanity as a whole will be perfectly fine. A combination of the coming Solar Revolution, world wide common sense pollution control, and depopulation will slow things. Science will fix the rest.

This is just silly and borderline dangerous to hand wave away the issue of climate change because of "our destiny" to be a more advanced civilization.

The only global temperature control in our future is when we start pumping some type of particle in the atmosphere that won't cause acid rain to lower global temperatures. A very "dumb" solution at that.
 
We figured out the solution decades ago, it was to reduce carbon emissions to prevent climate change. Nobody listened.

What you're proposing is the global equivalent of calling the fire brigade to a burning house. Even if we figure out how to stop it the damage caused will be significant and likely irreversible.

It is most certainly reversible. Not by us, but the Earth will correct itself in a few thousand years. The real question is whether modern human civilization will exist by then (probably not).
 

TyrantII

Member
Uhh, no. Learning to control our planet's weather and temp is part of our future. The only way we become a type 1 civilization is by doing so. While people like you hand wring and doomsay because "Nobody Listened" some scientist is figuring it out somewhere. Humanity as a whole will be perfectly fine. A combination of the coming Solar Revolution, world wide common sense pollution control, and depopulation will slow things. Science will fix the rest.


It's nice to have stories.

The US currently has no way to put people in LEO. There's only one country that does. The world isn't anywhere near a path to a type 1 civilization.

It's been 150 years and we haven't fixed racism.

I'm not totally defeatist on the issue, but hand waving the urgency and the problems already in motion with a view of fictitious futures aren't helpful either.

Western civilizations gift to the world.

Not totally fair. Extreme poverty has gone way down the last 50-100 years. But there have been unforseen and slowly understood consequences that need to now be adjusted for.
 

WaterAstro

Member
It is most certainly reversible. Not by us, but the Earth will correct itself in a few thousand years. The real question is whether modern human civilization will exist by then (probably not).

It's actually hard to say if it is reversible because this climate change is not natural. Earth has been through many ice ages, but ice ages are caused by a lack of Co2. There has been no evidence of the reverse ever happening in the history of Earth.

The things that filter out and trap Co2, trees and ocean plant life, we're destroying all of them, so if it comes to a point where we destroyed too much of the elements needed to reverse Climate Change, we'd be at a point of no return where normal plant life could not live in the heated conditions. Coral reefs have nearly disappeared because of a single degree rise in temperature. Just imagine if we go up a few more degrees.

If it will somehow correct itself, it's not a few thousand years. It's going to be millions.
 

redfirm

Banned
It's actually hard to say if it is reversible because this climate change is not natural. Earth has been through many ice ages, but ice ages are caused by a lack of Co2. There has been no evidence of the reverse ever happening in the history of Earth.

The things that filter out and trap Co2, trees and ocean plant life, we're destroying all of them, so if it comes to a point where we destroyed too much of the elements needed to reverse Climate Change, we'd be at a point of no return where normal plant life could not live in the heated conditions. Coral reefs have nearly disappeared because of a single degree rise in temperature. Just imagine if we go up a few more degrees.

If it will somehow correct itself, it's not a few thousand years. It's going to be millions.

This sucks, I just dived between corals a few days ago :(
 

borghe

Loves the Greater Toronto Area
sort of makes me depressed.. to think that my grand kids whom I will eventually meet/know/love within the next 10ish years will be dealing with this bullshit in their senior years... or die to it. :(
 

finley83

Banned
It is most certainly reversible. Not by us, but the Earth will correct itself in a few thousand years. The real question is whether modern human civilization will exist by then (probably not).

Irreversible in terms of how it affects the ability of the planet to sustain life as it currently exists.
 

old

Member
We're going to start building underground to cut down on Air Conditioning energy costs. Above ground homes will become a luxury.
 

finley83

Banned
I'm not totally defeatist on the issue, but hand waving the urgency and the problems already in motion with a view of fictitious futures aren't helpful either.

Exactly. Just saying that everything will be fine because scientists will think of something is like not giving a shit about quitting smoking because they'll probably have invented a cure for cancer by the time you get it.
 

Pizza

Member
There was a fire in California in the last ten years or so that would have been extremely difficult and costly to put out, so they hoped it'd just burn itself out

By the time it was eating houses it was too late to even try and stop it anymore

We probably have another good 15 or 20 years to make some ridiculous strides in fixing this problem before it's unfixable because we're absolutely running out of time

Edit: we won't even fix it anymore, we can maybe just prevent literally everything from going to shit
 
I know this is gonna sound terrible but surely in 80 years the world will have figured out a way to deal with that kinda problem?

You understand that billions of people still think this whole thing is a hoax, unproven and/or only God can change the climate, right?

Right-wingers, conservatives, traditionalists and their ilk will fight any progress on this issue until it really fucks shit up, which it has started doing.
 

WaterAstro

Member
All of us shouldn't think small scale. Plane delays or some forest fires are the small part of the bigger picture.

If many parts of the world become unlivable due to deadly heat, farms disappear, resources are lost, and people need to migrate. Countries that have been affected will fight other countries for land and resources, even within countries like America, citizens will fight each other for the same reason.

This is how war starts. I'm beyond thinking about the next worst summer heat wave. I am thinking that we're going to end ourselves within 200 years.
 
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