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PewDiePie defends Polish politician who believes women are less intelligent than men
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SuperStiltzkin
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Back then I was saying that his actions were motivated by being part of the generation where growing up on South Park and Family Guy and generally anti-semitic humor was considered edgy and funny as opposed to being motivated by genuine anti-semitic beliefs. We should remember that not all our favorite progressive liberal gaming personalities were the most politically correct. If you like the McElroy brothers, who are pretty damn progressive, I challenge you to go back and listen to their older MBMBaM podcasts. So I was willing to give some benefit of the doubt that he might mature from the incident and grow up.
Immediately after that though? Yeah seeing the people he threw in with after the incident and now this. It's pretty apparent there's something deeper than just a desire to imitate Cartman to appeal to immature gamers. He's garbage.
fluffydelusions
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Baffles me people think this way in 2017 =\
That is the point i don't get, he got his and making it worse for his peers. Limiting the potential of the platform is going to hit them way worse then them
Frozenprince
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I expect some of y'all who told us he wasn't a shithead to be in here with apologies.
Which is why they stan for him no matter what, they already plotted the course, they have to do this now or risk going broke.
Which is why they stan for him no matter what, they already plotted the course, they have to do this now or risk going broke.
Nydius
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What I'm about to type does not, in any way, mean I'm disputing your last part. PDP is disgusting, his reach is too vast and too easy to maintain, and his behavior deleterious to the development of inclusive behaviors and critical thought processes.
However, regarding children's programming of yore: Sadly, it doesn't seem like the messages that were being taught by Mr. Rodgers, Sesame Street, 3-2-1 Contact, Reading Rainbow, Picture Pages, Pinwheel, You Can't Do That On Television, and others stuck with people in my demographic. I look at the breakdowns on voting and issues from last year's election and I see over half of white 30-44 year olds and white 45-64 year olds: Voted for Trump, don't believe in the gender wage gap, and are in favor of the wall. Worse still, many of those are white women.
It annoys the hell out of me. Those shows (not to mention shows that came after, like Blue's Clues and Rugrats) highlighted the value of diversity and inclusion but the generation(s) of white America who grew up with those shows as children (e: and arguably had more consistent access to them than minority Americans due to financial privilege) have decided to follow in their conservative parents footsteps anyway.
Kingpin Rogers
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I'm confused, isn't this a very good quote? The only issue I could potentially see if "you are not less privileged" which isn't true but apart from that he seems to be speaking positively for women. Unless I'm misinterpreting it.
perfectchaos007
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It already has. Many of the pranksters and full on and border line alt righters have been posting less and less content because most if not all of their content became demonetized. Most of them are going the patreon route now but patreon supporters can't match what the advertising revenue was paying them.
That's a really high expectation to put onto people.
IF your choice was a shit sandwich now, or one later. you would think somone would be working on a third option
The really smart ones have branched out beyond just videos. Make up youtubbers are the real hustlers
Lionel Richie
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Holy shit I didn't even know that guy. Does people make money just for having opinions that align with folks? I don't think I understand society anymore.
jack_package_200
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Frozenprince
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I like to think I'm an optimist.
SchrodingerC
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oh look, PDP continues to follow the path of alt-right garbage.
Lol, I aint apoligizing but am willing to admit I was wrong, just thought he was a bit of an idiot before and made some bad jokes but this is cut and dry.
Mammoth Jones
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God Damn...
RiverShell
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So fed up of these two brain-cell youtubers. Google needs to be held accountable for allowing them to flourish.
If one good thing came from the gamergate/redpill/2016 fiasco it is that all these shitheads finally feel emboldened enough to reveal their shitty ideas to the public.
Why does Tucker always look confused?
Geno Breaker
Banned
H3H3 should call him out, but considering they didn't do the same for JonTron I don't expect them to.
Yup. Parents are completely ignorant to this stuff, too. They don't think their kids are going to be exposed to vile political opinions while just watching someone play Minecraft or whatever.
The way gaming is being taken over by disgusting right wing politics on an international level is so distressing. I feel like gamergate was only the start, and that it will continue to get worse. The industry can solve this though. Just a question of whether it wants to.
PersonAndStuff
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To a certain extent this is truish in that women are more often the primary caregiver so they more often deemphasize their career to take care of their children. However, this presumes that no one has taken high school statistics except for PewDiePie. Even when this taken into account, women are still paid less.
Frozenprince
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I don't get why people let their kids watch this dude to begin with.
He cusses like a fucking sailor, I watched half of one video and went "nope, you're not allowed, watch other people".
Any cuss words disqualify anything he's listening too.
He cusses like a fucking sailor, I watched half of one video and went "nope, you're not allowed, watch other people".
Any cuss words disqualify anything he's listening too.
DontBeThatGuy
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If this was gaming side, you would be in heaven. (so someone should probably make that thread)
They won't say shit to the contrary. It wouldn't benefit them in any way.
MegaManTrigger
Banned
It's not so much about political correctness. He's a YouTuber with huge exposure to some of the most malleable and formative minds out there, he should know that wasn't the platform to make that kind of controversial jokes. With Family Guy and South Park, they know what they are and hold no punches, whereas with PewDiePie there's (IMO, I think people will disagree with me on this) a weird tonal shift between his "LOL JK/LOL SO FANNY XD" humour that appeals to kids and teenagers and edgy humour that just looks and sounds off in relation to some of the things he's well known for.
I thought that the Nazi joke was the beginning of PewDiePie exposing his real views, so I'm not surprised that he's said something like this.
RocknRola
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Yeah, that's the actual problem/danger here.
Him being an asshole? It's fine, it makes him look foolish and standing on the wrong side of history.
Him being an asshole with a platform worth 56+ million people/kids? That's a real issue. Especially when plenty of similar popular "YT Stars" have similar views. It's a big issue that needs to be fixed ASAP.
So, do you disagree? Exactly which points do you disagree with? What is your counter argument?
Are you trying to have a discussion or do you just want a pile on?
hanspampel
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NeoGaf is such a bubble
Frozenprince
Banned
Because he has an audience of 56 million people.
He has tens of millions of viewers. His toxic words spread far and wide.
And a huge problem is, is that his audience is mainly children.
LookAtMeGo
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Why am I not surprised a dude who makes a killing from kids watching him scream at videogames has shitty views.
Why. H3H3 believes this stuff. Ethan will probably invite the Polish guy on his podcast.
Mammoth Jones
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How do parents control that content? Just curious as my kid is only two and it's a conversation we've had between my wife and I in terms of how to regulate crap like that.
Enlighten us.
And he doesn't understand what the fuck he is doing, he thinks it is all OK..and yet it is not OK at all.
Very worrisome on how kids will think and react on a way that parents will have them shocked. Pewdiepie doesn't know what responsibility is and mostly influence.
PinkCrayon
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These uneducated fuckwads with millions of subscribers, many of them children, really bother me.
He's chatting bollocks for views, same as far too many other YTers because it's an easy way to get money. Something controversial like this is guaranteed to bring in the clicks as well. I suspect he thinks this is all a big pile of nothing and while other YTers jump in to criticise/defend, he'll go on like nothing happened and watch the money roll in.
There are talks in UK and other European countries' parliaments about holding big social media companies to account for the actions of users. The problem is that these members of parliament know absolutely nothing about the internet. Social media has exploded far beyond the control of governments and while that has been a good thing in many cases, it has led to it being used for nefarious means with people in power struggling to keep up.
MegaManTrigger
Banned
That's the problem. When people can just spout off hot takes that have no basis in rationality nor backed up by peer-reviewed research, that shit spreads like wildfire to those 56mil users subbed to him.
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