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Star Trek Discovery: SDCC 2017 Trailer
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Bob Coffee
Member
im glad there doing this, wouldn't mind seeing some legit NX refits ala the supposed to be used in season 5 NX enterprise refit show up in discovery, even if they job to the "new" Klingons.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
sorry which klingons does it not look like, the next generation ones with forehead ridges or the orange-brown humans with goatees in TOS?
IdreamofHIME
Member
The real Mass Effect 4.
Hey, they're only human after all. Don't put the blame on them.
Barkley's Justice
Member
Looks expensive af. Surprised they're sticking to their streaming service approach.
You mean, like, why don't we see their subject races, too? Yeah, that would have been cool. They're both conqueror peoples, and we know they have other worlds under their control.
Looks like the new movies, which..i don't have any feeling neither negative nor positive.
It just is a little strange for me that it's set in the prime universe.
Edit: The technology in the ship looks way more advanced (or let's say high-tech) than TOS or TNG for me
..that's something that really weirds me out.
It just is a little strange for me that it's set in the prime universe.
Edit: The technology in the ship looks way more advanced (or let's say high-tech) than TOS or TNG for me
..that's something that really weirds me out.Disappointed that they didn't at least try to unify the ship design and really make a mark, design-wise. Just seems a bit "lazy". The Shenzhou is basically a 24th century escort design, and Discovery is just...well, I don't know.
I am no purist and TOS never really hooked me, but actually making an attempt to bridge the 22nd century with the 23rd would have been more interesting than just copy/pasting the Kelvin design and calling it a day.
Between the look and how the show is being run, I still can't find many reasons to actually pay extra to see it. I mean those first 2 shows are going to have to be amazing.
I am no purist and TOS never really hooked me, but actually making an attempt to bridge the 22nd century with the 23rd would have been more interesting than just copy/pasting the Kelvin design and calling it a day.
Between the look and how the show is being run, I still can't find many reasons to actually pay extra to see it. I mean those first 2 shows are going to have to be amazing.
Trailer reasons. They're trying to hook the ST movie watchers since the normal ST fans will be there anyway.
I feel like the trailer was a bit of a mess, I'll still watch it regardless, and I wasn't a fan of the music choice. I'll have to watch it again but was the Discoveries thing that it warps or something through ships?
Klingons with ridges aren't TNG, their modern look comes from The Motion Picture, they've been the same design wise since 1979.
Klingons with ridges aren't TNG, their modern look comes from The Motion Picture, they've been the same design wise since 1979.
SlickShoesRUCrazy
Member
So, will I be able to watch this with my cable log in creeentials or will I have to pay additiona?
Miles Quaritch
Member
Looks interesting enough, was worried after they had so many issues actually getting this off the ground. Hopefully the quality is there.
This is a TMP klingon:
That is not even close to the TNG look, the klingons have changed more than once (look at The Undiscovered Country for example, those klingons match neither TMP nor TNG), the Discovery klingons are just another variation, put long hair on them and they wouldn't even look that different.
JonnyDBrit
Member
This is oddly one of the things that Star Trek Online touches on, though most of the focus is given to the Klingons. True they were all recently absorbed into the Empire post-TNG, but it was at least something vs the implications that the Klingons either just colonised empty worlds, or uh, made them empty first.
Frankly it'd made for an interesting encounter in a Trek episode, and you get into the ever tricky subject of vassals under an Imperial ruler, and the mixed sense of loyalties.
The Klingons from Enterprise, the TOS movies, TNG, DS9, and Voyager. Y'know, the ones from before, during, and after the time Discovery is set.
RowdyReverb
Member
Looks like an action-oriented show with a lead protagonist. Not exactly what I was looking for in a Star Trek series, but I'll give it a shot
CharmingCharlie
Member
Yeahh that trailer did absolutely nothing for me. If anything I am getting "Enterprise" huge fail vibes from this. At this point with the new films and new shows it feels as if the original premise behind Startrek has been lost in favour of "bang, bang, shootie shootie".
It is all immaterial anyway not being in the US means I won't be able to access CBS's app and I will be damned if I am paying for Netflix just for this. Since Netflix funded this it is unlikely to ever be shown on "normal" TV. I really think this STD (erm unfortunate Acronym) could be another nail in the coffin of Startrek.
It is all immaterial anyway not being in the US means I won't be able to access CBS's app and I will be damned if I am paying for Netflix just for this. Since Netflix funded this it is unlikely to ever be shown on "normal" TV. I really think this STD (erm unfortunate Acronym) could be another nail in the coffin of Startrek.
Dreams-Visions
Member
I'm in.
lightskintwin
Banned
Never watched any of the Star Trek shows, but this looks alright. May have to check it out if it gets decent reviews.
Looks great
and also always relevant
Trekkies Bash New Star Trek Show As 'Fun, Watchable'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02LgdXVkXgM
and also always relevant
Trekkies Bash New Star Trek Show As 'Fun, Watchable'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02LgdXVkXgM
I don't know how I've never seen that video, but it's perfect.
Tal Shiar Agent
Member
I'm just sour on this whole endeavor. First, it's a prequel instead of setting it in the late 25th century or after to give a timeskip to avoid talking about older shows too much and to give a reason for the tech to look so advanced and shiny. Second, they seen to be trying to sell it as an action show, which isn't Trek for me. Third, the disregard for canon really annoys me. Fourth, I'm not a fan of TOS. Fifth, it's stuck behind that stupid ass paywall CBS All Access crap.
That's unfortunate. I would have enjoyed speaking with you about it if we watched it together. I hope this doesn't get cancelled; I intend to enjoy it, if it's good.
Succinct Verbosity
Member
I forgot all about this. Still great.
Yeah, I understand. I'd have preferred a timeskip, too. I think Star Trek is a rich enough fictional universe that it could have had tons of reasonable nods to previous content -- including TOS, which is what CBS is obsessing over because they know it's the most recognizable portion! -- without going the prequel route. I was a little let down when the timeframe was announced, but I wasn't surprised. Like I said, TOS sells. "Star Trek? With Kirk and Spock. And Bones. And Beam Me Up Scotty, and Khaaaaaaan. That's the only Star Trek I know. Oh, this is tied to that? I might watch it, then." It's kind of crazy given that TOS is 51, but I bet you that's a reaction thousands of young people have made here, too.
(Although, bit of a rabbit trail, but I don't believe the "TOS is all I know" contingent is QUITE as big as CBS probably believes. Netflix viewership on all five shows has been great over the years, and I am almost positive DS9 is more popular in 2017 than it was in 1997 as a result. People love, love, love to talk DS9. Nevermind TNG for that matter, which has become the M*A*S*H of infinite syndication sci-fi.)
wesleyshark
Banned
They don't look anything like the more familiar designs that they've had since the motion picture and after. Seems like a silly and unnecessary change.
TrekCore has broken down the trailer and posted over 250 screencaps.
The breakdown actually goes into a great detail of supposition detail, much of which TrekCore feels fairly confident in. Having read it, I do as well. It's pretty likely there are some spoilers in there about the first two episodes.
The breakdown actually goes into a great detail of supposition detail, much of which TrekCore feels fairly confident in. Having read it, I do as well. It's pretty likely there are some spoilers in there about the first two episodes.
This is a TMP klingon:
That is not even close to the TNG look, the klingons have changed more than once (look at The Undiscovered Country for example, those klingons match neither TMP nor TNG), the Discovery klingons are just another variation, put long hair on them and they wouldn't even look that different.
I'm not really seeing the difference?
Klingons have always had various forehead and nose ridges with different combinations of hairstyles. Makeup and such standards have changed over the years especially as we move into HD. But the visual style of the Klingons we've had throughout since TMP and after has been pretty much the same.
The variations we've seen of Klingons since TMP to me is no different than variations we've seen of the uniforms and style from Starfleet.
Klingons in Discovery to me look closer to Krall from Star Trek Beyond than the Klingons we've had for years.
Random Human
They were trying to grab your prize. They work for the mercenary. The masked man.
WHAT! I had no idea Fuller left, he was like the main reason I was excited about this.
PK Strawstorm
Member
Star Trek is made for me in the quality of the characters and philosophy, not the action, so this trailer does minimal for me, but you can't really do a trailer (esp. a ComicCon trailer) for something like TNG's "The Inner Light" that is just a beautiful, almost no action short story.
So basically I still have no idea what this will be. CBS (aka the network of the lowest common denominator) and the trend towards pure action in the movies (albeit the movies always trend towards action) make me extremely pessimistic, but I hope to hear good things once they escape the early episode tedium of explosions and world-building.
So basically I still have no idea what this will be. CBS (aka the network of the lowest common denominator) and the trend towards pure action in the movies (albeit the movies always trend towards action) make me extremely pessimistic, but I hope to hear good things once they escape the early episode tedium of explosions and world-building.
Personally, from TMP in 1979 until 2005 with Enterprise ended, Klingons had a generally consistent appearance. Considering that that spanned 26 years, 624 episodes and 436 hours (most of which had a Klingon as crew to boot) and 9 films (I can't recall any Klingons in Khan), I don't think its surprising that people are a bit miffed at the change, first in Darkness and now again in Discovery.
However I will add this. Who knows where these new dudes are from.
Whatever, I'm watching it. It's just a bit jarring. Far more so for me than the show having "the Kelvin look" which just seems like a progression of the medium. I realise that if one is ok then why aren't both, but its what I think! But then I enjoy the new films, the old films, and old shows. So I'm weird.
An illustrated guide to The Klingons through the years
TOS - 1967
The Motion Picture - 1979
Search for Spock - 1984
Voyage Home - 1986
TNG - 1987
Final Frontier - 1989
Undiscovered country - 1991
DS9 - 1995-2000 (probably my 2 faves as well)
Enterprise - 2001
Enterprise with the "Augment Virus"
Into Darkness - 2013
Discovery - 2017
However I will add this. Who knows where these new dudes are from.
Whatever, I'm watching it. It's just a bit jarring. Far more so for me than the show having "the Kelvin look" which just seems like a progression of the medium. I realise that if one is ok then why aren't both, but its what I think! But then I enjoy the new films, the old films, and old shows. So I'm weird.
An illustrated guide to The Klingons through the years
TOS - 1967
The Motion Picture - 1979
Search for Spock - 1984
Voyage Home - 1986
TNG - 1987
Final Frontier - 1989
Undiscovered country - 1991
DS9 - 1995-2000 (probably my 2 faves as well)
Enterprise - 2001
Enterprise with the "Augment Virus"
Into Darkness - 2013
Discovery - 2017
Looks cool, looks like it has a budget.
I just think it should be toned down a little. Star Trek should be less about action scenes and more about speculative sci-fi and theoretical morality. As well as a really dynamite ensemble.
Hope they have that and they just put all the boom boom stuff in this trailer.
I just think it should be toned down a little. Star Trek should be less about action scenes and more about speculative sci-fi and theoretical morality. As well as a really dynamite ensemble.
Hope they have that and they just put all the boom boom stuff in this trailer.
A bunch of cast/crew snippets.
From Alex Kurtzman:
From Rainn Wilson:
From Sonequa Martin-Green:
From Akiva Goldsman:
From Jason Isaacs:
From Anthony Rapp:
From James Frain:
From Doug Jones:
Even more at the link, including some thoughts on Jonathan Frakes' directing and... singing... style.
From Alex Kurtzman:
From Rainn Wilson:
From Sonequa Martin-Green:
From Akiva Goldsman:
From Jason Isaacs:
From Anthony Rapp:
From James Frain:
From Doug Jones:
Even more at the link, including some thoughts on Jonathan Frakes' directing and... singing... style.
That Netflix money.
They why is he EVERYWHERE
I wanna hear from the showrunners
It's CBS All-Access