Somnia said:

All good man, some people like to accuse people of shit so can never tell if people are joking lol

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Dyle said:

Man River Journey looks very meh. Definitely beautiful looking, but it seems like there isn't any story or explanation of what you're seeing. Lots of pretty colors but kind of soulless. That last animataronic is incredible though, unbelievable control of his arms. Hopefully the Banshee ride is a classic.

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nicoga3000 said:

If the video is super crisp like the new Soarin', I think I'll be OK on that new flight ride. The only reason Star Tours is hard for me is because the video quality doesn't seem as good (also the jerky movements).

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jstevenson said:

I'm so sad I'm going to be there just a few weeks before the official opening and probably just a week or two ahead of soft opens

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KeyBladerXIII said:

The video for the banshee ride reminds of the cheesy video before you ride Dinosaur, I love it. I thought the ride was going to suspend you in air like Soarin, but I guess you just sit?

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Lee Chaolan said:

Are they still doing the Twilight at Animal Kingdom stuff? Not even just talking about Pandora. I mean like the Tree of Life as it illuminates as it gets late?

Did that May of last year, it was fantastic.

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If Na'vi River Journey capacity is really 1200/hour and Flight is ~1600/hour there is going to be a problem. The queue lengths are redonk

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The sheer length of the flight of passage queue should have you very, very worried

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Linkura said:

Sounds like we're looking at 3 hour+ waits with these rides...

https://twitter.com/easywdw/status/860127077617602560


https://twitter.com/easywdw/status/859899282375274496


I don't understand why the capacity for River Journey is so low- basically Frozen levels. They were locked into the Frozen capacity thanks to it originally being Maelstrom, but RJ was built from the ground up. Other boat rides have way more capacity- POTC has about 3200/hr, for example. I'm shocked that FOP has a higher capacity, and I think many others are too- totally thought it would be the other way around. Not that FOP's capacity is high at all- that's still fairly low.

Disney doesn't make a whole lot of sense sometimes...

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hirokazu said:

Maybe Disney went on GAF and saw that nobody cared about Avatar anymore ;P

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Linkura said:

There's a shitload of hype and advertising going on- honestly, I don't care about Avatar, but I'm still interested in riding these rides at least once.

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Linkura said:

Sounds like we're looking at 3 hour+ waits with these rides...

https://twitter.com/easywdw/status/860127077617602560


https://twitter.com/easywdw/status/859899282375274496


I don't understand why the capacity for River Journey is so low- basically Frozen levels. They were locked into the Frozen capacity thanks to it originally being Maelstrom, but RJ was built from the ground up. Other boat rides have way more capacity- POTC has about 3200/hr, for example. I'm shocked that FOP has a higher capacity, and I think many others are too- totally thought it would be the other way around. Not that FOP's capacity is high at all- that's still fairly low.

Disney doesn't make a whole lot of sense sometimes...

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Somnia said:

Fast pass is your friend

Spoiler

Yes I know this isn't always available even more so for locals

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Somnia said:

Fast pass is your friend

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Yes I know this isn't always available even more so for locals

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peteykirch said:

If you're local and have an AP you get the same FP+ window as a hotel guest, so I don't know you'd say it's not available.

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Linkura said:

Um... no? AP only get 30 days unless they stay in a Disney hotel.

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peteykirch said:

My bad, but still 30 days is usually good enough to get onto most rides depending on your party size.

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Linkura said:

It can be very hard to get reasonable times for Frozen or Mine Train at 30 days out. Unless you want a 9PM Fastpass, which is basically worthless since you can't get additional ones that late, and even that can be hard to get depending on time of year, party size, etc.

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peteykirch said:

I don't know, I've had good success just constantly refreshing the system when I'm in the park and getting FP+ for 1-2 people.

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Linkura said:

That's because you're only looking for 1-2 people. I've had similar success myself... for 1-2 people. Most people who visit are families with parties greater than 2.

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peteykirch said:

Of course trying to get large numbers of FP+ for a group, or a reservation is hard, even with 180 days for dining, or 60 for a hotel guest booking FP+

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daffy said:

To be fair, no one will be riding these rides in a year, especially once Toy Story opens. Hell they may even disperse as soon as October. not like Pirates imo where the brand is always strong

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Somnia said:

Normally I'd also say try to ride them during the night time show, but Pandora's entire land is basically a night time show and different than during the day, so it'll most likely remain crowded even at night,

Thankfully I'm not going again till early December so things will hopefully calm down a bit by then.

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Somnia said:

I think you're underestimating the possibility of this land being popular for the atmosphere alone. If the rides (mainly flight) are amazing, they won't die down that fast. Remember that Animal Kingdom has been begging for new attractions.

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daffy said:

Maybe not as soon as October, but I'm almost positive people will not be crowding out in Pandora past Christmas. People didn't respond all that well to the 2016 experiences Disney threw at the park. I went two months after Nighttime premiered and it was dead. I doubt Avatar will change that but of course we will see.

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daffy said:

To be fair, no one will be riding these rides in a year, especially once Toy Story opens. Hell they may even disperse as soon as October. not like Pirates imo where the brand is always strong

From what I've heard and seen on Snapchat during the Cast Preview they're pretty basic experiences

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At the temporary gate to Pandora, we talked to a friendly Cast Member who was the first of many to tell us about all of the issues Flight of Passage has been having. Essentially, the ride is not able to run for more than an hour without breaking down or needing a rest period. Almost every Cast Member we asked would tell us essentially the same thing.

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There was no moving forward toward the screen. I was on the 1st floor, toward the far corner. I had to look up and to the right to look toward the "center" of the screen. At all times, I was very aware that there was a ceiling above me. If I looked up and right slightly further than the screen, I could see all of the other rows of people riding.

So much for "no bad seats". I was very much off-centered and could tell. At some points, I even got double vision in the 3D because I wasn't looking straight on. Oh well.

The ride mechanism itself is pretty cool. If you look behind you, you can see how much the theater moves. You're in a row of people, in a room, and it feels like the room is moving to a 3D video. I found it very hard to suspend belief enough to not be aware of this.

And the movie content itself? Nothing happens. Much like Soarin', you're just taking a ride. There is no conflict, no dialogue, and really no music. And you can very much tell it's CGI. It doesn't even look as good as the movie, which came out almost a decade ago. It looks like a smoother, higher resolution PS4 game.

The drops that people mentioned on here are more like gentle dives. Nothing overly thrilling. Nothing jerky like Star Tours. Gentle, like Soarin', but with more dramatic movement.

Overall, it's a fun ride, no doubt. It just isn't what people have been saying it is. It is not a "game changer". It does not top The Amazing Adventures of Spider-Man for best 3D attraction (opinion). It's basically Jimmy Fallon ride on bikes. It's just OK. Lower your expectations and try to enjoy it for what it is.

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I don't know what to say about River Journey, besides that I think that it is the worst attraction in WDW. It is visually pleasing, the shaman animatronic is cool, but that's it. There is no story. The ride blurs together as one scene - it all looks the same. The projections are very easy to identify and differentiate from the live action scenes. It's short. Unless you've spent the last 7 years obsessing over Avatar, then you probably have no emotional connection to this world.

I'd love to stand by the exit of the ride and hear people's reaction when they leave. I imagine many people will be confused and disappointed.

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Pandora is small. It somehow feels smaller than Camp Minnie Mickey. The centerpiece is beautiful, but that's about the only impressive part. Otherwise, it's a bunch of trees and plants.

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SoRuffShoNuff said:

Have you seen the plans for Toy Story land, it's mediocre at best. It's a spinner tea cup type of ride and a kiddie coaster. If Soarin can still command hefty wait times the flight ride in Pandora will stay packed.

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NOLA_Gaffer said:

Can we fix the yeti now please?

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NOLA_Gaffer said:

Can we fix the yeti now please?

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NOLA_Gaffer said:

Can we fix the yeti now please?

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SCULLIBUNDO said:

Video footage from the Flight of Pandora is something else.

You see some Pandoran whales and shit too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMxeDMPvSnI

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