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New Motorstorm: Apocalypse screens
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SonOfABeep
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I love me some motorstorm. My favorite PS3 exclusive franchise.
The AI did cheat. You could be boosting in the fastest vehicle, taking the quickest short cut and be in 1st place but then suddenly you see the AI in front of you as they have inexplicably taken a longer route and passed you depsite you going as fast as possible.Metalmurphy said:No, that's the definition if rubberband AI, not cheating. Again, they don't cheat. They don't do anything that you can't do.
I golded all events in both MS and MSR. I never cheated the AI... and yes it was crazy fun even if frustrating. I got the same joy out of it as I did from Demon Souls. Same type of frustrating game, same type of great feeling of achievement once you ace a race.
The developers even admitted that the AI would cheat but say it won't in Apocalypse:
http://www.gamerzines.com/ps3/blogs/motorstorm-apocalypse-intervie.html
Metalmurphy
Member
No. That NEVER happens. If you don't crash, are in the lead, and are fast you WILL stay there. All the races I made where I didn't crash and followed the fastest line never ONCE was I overtaken like that. I remained the entire race in the lead. Don't be mistaken by crossovers that actually take a longer router afterwards.satriales said:
Funny as I've seen them say otherwise on the official forums. He probably didn't mean cheat as in really cheat but regarding the rubber banding.satriales said:
It happened to me many times. If you are doing a perfect lap in the fastest vehicle for the race, going into the final corner you shouldn't be neck and neck with AI that is in a slower vehicle or taken a longer route. That happens almost every race as it's impossible to lose the AI and they don't all take the quickest route.Metalmurphy said:
There is a way to stop the AI from cheating though: If you are in 1st place and keep looking behind you then they will not do anything that you can't do. However if you just play normally they will be impossibly fast. The difference is obvious if you try a race both ways.
He says "This time they won't do anything impossible", clearly suggesting that in the past the AI did cheat (along with him actually saying the AI did cheat).Metalmurphy said:
Also, he's Lead Designer so probably knows more about it than the community guys on the forums.
NullPointer
Member
Hell yes. I just got back into Pacific Rift and I'm loving the hell out of it.BeeDog said:
LabouredSubterfuge
Member
Note to devs:
We really need that new fucking Carmageddon game stat.
We really need that new fucking Carmageddon game stat.
LabouredSubterfuge said:
It surprised me that you can totally run down pedestrians in MSA. They grab onto the hood and everything.
Wazzim said:
There's been a demo around at retail Sony Style stores and such. I was playing it on 3D at the NYC location last month. Not to mention the E3. And there are plenty of actual demo gameplay vids too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViSmLdXU1vM
The game is in constant motion.
Metalmurphy
Member
You could do it in Pacific Rift as wellJim said:
There's a trophy for it and everything.fastford58
Member
Will this game be using rubber band ai....actually, did the last game use it? I hated the first because of that shit.
Yes it did. I sort of had a love hate thing with it, the rubber band ai kept races fairly interesting, but it was all kinds of annoying to lose because one mistake on the last lap. I agree with Metal, I am not anywhere near the best player and Pacific Rift was very beatable.fastford58 said:
MotorStorm Apocalypse Video Interview
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/02/08/motorstorm-apocalypse-video-interview-2/#comment-517780
PS blog comments:
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/02/08/motorstorm-apocalypse-video-interview-2/#comment-517780
PS blog comments:
Jamie Brayshaw | February 8th, 2011 at 11:49 am
Keeping that trend going, hopefully youll love Apocalypse *even more*!
The AI has been overhauled for MotorStorm Apocalypse so that it behaves more realistically and, importantly, so that it cant do anything that the player cant do.
Jamie Brayshaw | February 8th, 2011 at 12:08 pm
Theres no news on NGP the team here at Evolution Studios are completely focused on bringing an intense and robust MotorStorm Apocalypse experience to PlayStation 3 first and foremost!
Ive mentioned previously that driving wheel support is something were really keen to deliver, but only if we can make it work well and are satisfied that it enhances the experience overall. Youll have to watch this space unfortunately! Plans for PlayStation Home and downloadable demos will be revealed separately too
brain_stew
Member
LiquidMetal14 said:
MLAA isn't a particularly good fit for a racing game.
bluedeviltron
Member
Yep, that looks like another whacky racing game that nobody will buy.
Nothing to see here, folks.
Nothing to see here, folks.
Metalmurphy
Member
bluedeviltron said:
Not sure if serious...
MS1 sold over 3Million.
Pacific Rift sold over 1Million.
Some new gameplay videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYMLyzo6Ym0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_yzSZiUm20
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IeNL7OhqT4
Holy cow @ tornado. Amazing stuff.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYMLyzo6Ym0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_yzSZiUm20
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IeNL7OhqT4
Holy cow @ tornado. Amazing stuff.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
The driver was really, really good and he pretty much shows how Motorstorm is supposed to be played.
Also, best wind particles ever? The whole graphics department seems like a huge improvement from Pacific Rift, and that was a great looking game!
Also, best wind particles ever? The whole graphics department seems like a huge improvement from Pacific Rift, and that was a great looking game!
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
This is my most anticipated racer.
V_Ben said:Watched 30 seconds... turned it off. I don't think I've ever wanted to not be spoiled on a racing game before
I did about 20 and know exactly what you mean. It looks good but then again I've liked both the MS games.
EDIT: Of course there are 3. And to think I edited my use of the word "all" to both (above). Have the PSP one but never really played it.
REMEMBER CITADEL
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I don't care for the second one, but the other two actually look great. It's the first time I can say that about MotorStorm: Apocalypse, hype slowly rising.
NullPointer
Member
Holy fucking shitmonkey. Day 1, my body is ready, hype at maximum, etc etc.Cyberia said:
If this had cockpit views I would sell my soul.
This has guns and tanks and no more festival atmosphere and people are flipping over SSX: Deadly Descents? Haha.
The game looks as great as it usually does.
But am I the only person who cringed at the low-to-the-ground touring car driving over all of those rocks? Think of the bodywork!
The game looks as great as it usually does.
But am I the only person who cringed at the low-to-the-ground touring car driving over all of those rocks? Think of the bodywork!
I remember when almost all of the attention around MS1 was about how the 'power of the CELL!' could generate realistic mud, with the track being all cut up - heavier vehicles leaving huge ruts that would make it difficult to drive a lighter car/bike.
Now there is no mud at all. I'm sure it'll be exciting but I can't help feeling its not really motorstorm anymore
Now there is no mud at all. I'm sure it'll be exciting but I can't help feeling its not really motorstorm anymore
I NEED SCISSORS
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I thought I heard Swan Lake in the background of that video. Shit will be epic with custom soundtracks.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Different themes. Variation, just what we gamers really need.mrklaw said:
Motorstorm was about mud and only mud. Clearly an "experiment" (not saying game's bad, I fucking LOVED the original MS).
Pacific Rift was genius, it had some mud elements but also added in fire, wind and water elemental which added great depth to the boosting mechanics.
Apocalypse takes this to the next step by taking what Pacific Rift did good and adding brilliant movie-like sequences that GREATLY enhances the gameplay quality since no lap will ever be the same (and this time it doesn't seem to be PR). Based on these videos, when a tall building collapses on the streets, you really need to adapt and take other routes. I love it and it's definitely not something we're used to seeing in racing games, let alone the Motorstorm franchise!
Clearly you've seen nothing of the game. This one has more strategy and track diversity than previous Motorstorms by FAR. Read what I wrote above.Ranger X said:I share this opinion
There doesn't seem to have much track diversity or strategy in this new one. It interest me even less than Motorstorm 2.
Thunderbear
Mawio Gawaxy iz da Wheeson hee pways games
I think this will be the first Motorstorm game I buy. The two previous ones were ok, I liked the demos and all but this looks seem to fit my ADD and great SP needs.
(These videos should be a new thread, new news new threads right?)
(These videos should be a new thread, new news new threads right?)
I NEED SCISSORS
Banned
The PSP MotorStorm was awesome because it had no rubber banding. Then again it was from different people - I hope Evolution take heed.
Yoshichan said:
Take you at your word, but starting with MotorStorm 2 they really smoothed out the tracks and dramatically reduced the effects of terrain types and tire ruts, this isn't something that can be argued over, it happened. Maybe this entry will be more tactical than any before it, but MS1 had elements that were dramatically toned down with the sequels.
NullPointer
Member
Smooth? I'm struggling to think of any track in Pacific Rift that I could describe as smooth, or even predominantly smooth. That game is a lovely mess of angles and bumps and crags with fire and brimstone and waterfalls and dense jungle.Zen said:
God I love it.