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The God
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(04-21-2017, 10:15 AM)

Originally Posted by Joystick

What's wrong with that? Why does the first entry in a franchise have to be everything. Be the best? Isn't UC4 better than UC1 for example?

I would LOVE a sequel to The Order: 1886. I really enjoyed the first and I understand that it was not everyone's cup of tea, but take on board some of the criticisms, more polish, a sequel could be great.

The first entry doesn't have to be everything, and let's not act Uncharted 1 had the same reputation as The Order when it released

The name is tainted. Maybe they could make a spiritual successor in a new IP.
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(04-21-2017, 10:23 AM)
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If an new game in the Order were to actually be funded, I'd think it would be a good idea for the series to actually... step away from being a TPS and go for an action game set in the Arthurian timeline instead.

A gritty alt-history swords & low-fantasy Arthurian timeline action game with werewolves, vampires & other mythological creatures.

... Man, now I feel sad that it'll likely never happen. The game had a ton of flaws, but the visual direction, world setting and atmosphere was really good.
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(04-21-2017, 10:50 AM)
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Originally Posted by Nightengale

If an new game in the Order were to actually be funded, I'd think it would be a good idea for the series to actually... step away from being a TPS and go for an action game set in the Arthurian timeline instead.

A gritty alt-history swords & low-fantasy Arthurian timeline action game with werewolves, vampires & other mythological creatures.

... Man, now I feel sad that it'll likely never happen. The game had a ton of flaws, but the visual direction, world setting and atmosphere was really good.

Tell me about it - cyberpunk and steampunk (which I consider to be the genre The Order falls into) are two woefully underserved settings.
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(04-21-2017, 12:07 PM)
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If there was an Order 2, I'd be there day 1. It just needed a tweak here and there to the formula. It wasn't that bad of a game, and the negative comments are totally overblown. It's way more interesting to play (imho) than Gears 4, which I still haven't brought myself to finish.
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(04-21-2017, 12:18 PM)
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Spoiler one week in advance : Sony Corporation did very good during the last fiscal year. Praise the Kaz. Of course we will have to wait next thursday to know about the PlayStation division in particular and how many PS4 were shipped.
Loris146
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(04-21-2017, 12:27 PM)

Originally Posted by Jarod McChicken

Spoiler one week in advance : Sony Corporation did very good during the last fiscal year. Praise the Kaz. Of course we will have to wait next thursday to know about the PlayStation division in particular and how many PS4 were shipped.

Now he must fix Sony Pictures which is a complete clusterfuck.
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(04-21-2017, 12:28 PM)
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Originally Posted by Jarod McChicken

Spoiler one week in advance : Sony Corporation did very good during the last fiscal year. Praise the Kaz. Of course we will have to wait next thursday to know about the PlayStation division in particular and how many PS4 were shipped.

kazband.gif
Edit: btw next thursday is american time or jp time?
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Triggerhappytel
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(04-21-2017, 12:31 PM)
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Originally Posted by Loris146

Now he must fix Sony Pictures which is a complete clusterfuck.

Yeah, Sony Pictures was I think their only division losing money in their last fiscal report, I think?

They probably need to move away from trying to compete on a blockbuster scale and do a bunch of films that cost under $50 million. Also, no video game movies as they're always terrible and hardly ever appeal to the intended video game audience.
StrongBlackVine
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(04-21-2017, 12:35 PM)

Originally Posted by Triggerhappytel

Yeah, Sony Pictures was I think their only division losing money in their last fiscal report, I think?

They probably need to move away from trying to compete on a blockbuster scale and do a bunch of films that cost under $50 million. Also, no video game movies as they're always terrible and hardly ever appeal to the intended video game audience.

Disagree. Resident Evil has been a major earner for Sony almost two decades. They will definitely reboot that franchise. Not sure about taking on new properties like Uncharted and TLOU though as don't really bring anything new to or exciting to film. Could definitely see a Horizon movie in the future.
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Rymuth
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(04-21-2017, 12:45 PM)
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Originally Posted by Jarod McChicken

Spoiler one week in advance : Sony Corporation did very good during the last fiscal year. Praise the Kaz. Of course we will have to wait next thursday to know about the PlayStation division in particular and how many PS4 were shipped.

My Kaz gifs folder is ready
Turkoop
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(04-21-2017, 12:47 PM)
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Originally Posted by Triggerhappytel

Yeah, Sony Pictures was I think their only division losing money in their last fiscal report, I think?

They probably need to move away from trying to compete on a blockbuster scale and do a bunch of films that cost under $50 million. Also, no video game movies as they're always terrible and hardly ever appeal to the intended video game audience.

Yes, they made a lot of loss in the last quarter. It's a shame, they launched few interesting movies like Passengers.
LastMinuteHero
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(04-21-2017, 12:50 PM)
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Originally Posted by Rymuth

My Kaz gifs folder is ready

Do you have kazband.gif? I can't seem to find it from the previous pages
Magic Mushroom
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(04-21-2017, 12:53 PM)
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At least Sony Pictures has Spider-Man this year, but yeah, that's definitely a business that could use some restructuring.
Nightengale
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(04-21-2017, 12:54 PM)
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Sony Pictures needs a complete shakeup from top-to-bottom.

Movie business is tough and cut-throat, but whatever comfort zone SP is in right now is downright saddening.
vivekTO
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(04-21-2017, 12:55 PM)
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After seeing the results Kaz will be like
@lastminutehero

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LastMinuteHero
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(04-21-2017, 12:57 PM)
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Ah thanks for being a bro vivek :D
vivekTO
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(04-21-2017, 01:08 PM)
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Originally Posted by LastMinuteHero

Ah thanks for being a bro vivek :D

Not a problem :) , but if you are also interested in lyric version than check this

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Broop-broop, breep-breep. Broop-broop, breep-breep. Broop-broop, breep-breep. Broop-broop, breep-breep. Broop-broop, breep-breep. Broop-broop, breep-breep. Broop-broop, breep-breep. Broop-broop, breep-breep.



Miyamoto Jr on the drums
Courtsey of shin-ra :P
FelipeMGM
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(04-21-2017, 01:10 PM)
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Originally Posted by Guymelef

No, but with the movie and Sanzaru in the developers list on PS4 reveal it should be a given.

But now I'm starting to think, movie and possible game are both cancelled.

After Ratchet movie bombing, my guess is that Sly movie is dead now.

Originally Posted by StrongBlackVine

Here:

heh, Im kinda sceptic about this, John leaks the NPD info right? But NPD doesnt get digital data from Sony, how would he really know?
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Endo Punk
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(04-21-2017, 01:15 PM)
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Order is actually my most disappointing game this gen. I had high hopes after the reveal trailer. People say it has potential I say the IP didn't realise its potential, people say the graphics but for me why was the gameplay so damn forgettable and the weapons underutilised. People say the story was good and I am speechless. The story is the biggest offense the game made.
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Undrey
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(04-21-2017, 01:17 PM)
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Originally Posted by FelipeMGM

After Ratchet movie bombing, my guess is that Sly movie is dead now.

Not exactly, they re-uploaded the trailer three months ago without the 'coming 2016' part.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWLolBJzteM
NahaNago
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(04-21-2017, 01:21 PM)

Originally Posted by Nightengale

If an new game in the Order were to actually be funded, I'd think it would be a good idea for the series to actually... step away from being a TPS and go for an action game set in the Arthurian timeline instead.

A gritty alt-history swords & low-fantasy Arthurian timeline action game with werewolves, vampires & other mythological creatures.

... Man, now I feel sad that it'll likely never happen. The game had a ton of flaws, but the visual direction, world setting and atmosphere was really good.

Yeah i just got finished playing that game and the gameplay holds it back quite a bit in my opinion. If they made the combat as satisfying as horizon with all of the close combat i would have loved the game. I kinda feel that the order 1887 should be made on the ps5 to keep the game looking just as great and maybe open up the world and the characters lives a lot more.
StrongBlackVine
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(04-21-2017, 01:48 PM)

Originally Posted by FelipeMGM

After Ratchet movie bombing, my guess is that Sly movie is dead now.



heh, Im kinda sceptic about this, John leaks the NPD info right? But NPD doesnt get digital data from Sony, how would he really know?

What makes you think he is a part of NPD or gets all of his information from them? Feel free to be skeptical, but that about as much proof as you will ever get until Sony opens up about their digital sales.
Triggerhappytel
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(04-21-2017, 02:14 PM)
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Originally Posted by FelipeMGM

After Ratchet movie bombing, my guess is that Sly movie is dead now.

It may have bombed, but it was also very low-budget so I wouldn't be surprised if the production company got finance for two movies and Sly is going ahead regardless.

Originally Posted by Endo Punk

Order is actually my most disappointing game this gen. I had high hopes after the reveal trailer. People say it has potential I say the IP didn't realise its potential, people say the graphics but for me why was the gameplay so damn forgettable and the weapons underutilised. People say the story was good and I am speechless. The story is the biggest offense the game made.

I don't think anyone says the story in TO1886 is good? The storytelling was poor and the story had almost nothing to it. It treats The Order's werewolf guy and vampire guy as some major revelation but not enough time has passed for players to actually give a shit, and the big moments are hindered by shitty gameplay anyway. And honestly, the 'organisation leaders are secretly enemies' twist is probably the most played-out trope in storytelling.

Originally Posted by StrongBlackVine

Disagree. Resident Evil has been a major earner for Sony almost two decades. They will definitely reboot that franchise. Not sure about taking on new properties like Uncharted and TLOU though as don't really bring anything new to or exciting to film. Could definitely see a Horizon movie in the future.

Yeah, fair enough, although to be fair that is absolutely the exception, and I don't think there's been another video game movie that's had more than one sequel. I've only seen the first two but kind of hated them, and would have much preferred it if they'd stuck more closely to the games.
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LiquidSolid
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(04-21-2017, 02:35 PM)
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Originally Posted by FelipeMGM

heh, Im kinda sceptic about this, John leaks the NPD info right? But NPD doesnt get digital data from Sony, how would he really know?

By finding it out from another source. He's a reliable source for sales numbers, there's no reason to doubt him.
FelipeMGM
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(04-21-2017, 02:39 PM)
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Originally Posted by Undrey

Not exactly, they re-uploaded the trailer three months ago without the 'coming 2016' part.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWLolBJzteM

Well, thats not bad news for sure.

And man, aint this trailer fun. This could work way better than the Ratchet movie

Originally Posted by Triggerhappytel

It may have bombed, but it was also very low-budget so I wouldn't be surprised if the production company got finance for two movies and Sly is going ahead regardless.
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Maybe. I hope it happens (with a game companion of course)
Cyberia
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(04-21-2017, 02:58 PM)
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The Lost Legacy began development before release of UC4:

Dabi
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(04-21-2017, 03:02 PM)
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Originally Posted by Cyberia

The Lost Legacy began development before release of UC4:

To be expected since UC4 went Gold in March.
FelipeMGM
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(04-21-2017, 03:12 PM)
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Originally Posted by StrongBlackVine

What makes you think he is a part of NPD or gets all of his information from them? Feel free to be skeptical, but that about as much proof as you will ever get until Sony opens up about their digital sales.

Originally Posted by LiquidSolid

By finding it out from another source. He's a reliable source for sales numbers, there's no reason to doubt him.

sure, I'll take that

Originally Posted by Cyberia

The Lost Legacy began development before release of UC4:

I dont think anyone thought otherwise
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(04-21-2017, 03:18 PM)
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Originally Posted by FelipeMGM

sure, I'll take that



I dont think anyone thought otherwise

Only possible way for it to be releasing so soon
Cyberia
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(04-21-2017, 03:29 PM)
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Originally Posted by FelipeMGM


I dont think anyone thought otherwise

I don't think that's true.

We definitely didn't start until after Uncharted 4 shipped...

https://twitter.com/arnemeyer/status/851834334860398592
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Frostman
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(04-21-2017, 03:35 PM)
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Originally Posted by Cyberia

I don't think that's true.



https://twitter.com/arnemeyer/status/851834334860398592

Yeah, I don't think it is either.

Every comment from ND on when development for the Lost Legacy began has stated they started after UC4 launched. I'm pretty sure Josh Scherr said in an interview that they didn't know what to base the DLC on, and it took them time to work that out.
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(04-21-2017, 03:41 PM)
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tsk

don't play with me 4chan... I actually enjoyed PSABR and I have a list of improvements I want to see in a sequel
Cyberia
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(04-21-2017, 03:42 PM)
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Originally Posted by Frostman

Yeah, I don't think it is either.

Every comment from ND on when development for the Lost Legacy began has stated they started after UC4 launched. I'm pretty sure Josh Scherr said in an interview that they didn't know what to base the DLC on, and it took them time to work that out.

Yeah, and if i remember correctly, Josh Scherr also said during this stream that he was already working on the next thing (this was recorded May last year).
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(04-21-2017, 04:16 PM)
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Originally Posted by fatherKratos

Ppl who have bought it at 1/4th price(including myself) aren't that disappointed with it than those who had paid full price.These days, when many are hesitant to even buy UC's dlc at full price, not sure if creating a sequel would be a good idea, irrespective of how good the game turns out to be.

I paid full price, and loved it. Granted, it isn't a smart business move to make a sequel, but I still hope we can get it someday. I'd really like to see what Ready at Dawn had planned.

I'd also be down for No Man's Sky 2.
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(04-21-2017, 04:17 PM)
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1M+ views for this thread! Great work, Juan!
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(04-21-2017, 04:17 PM)
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Originally Posted by Wozman23

I paid full price, and loved it. Granted, it isn't a smart business move to make a sequel, but I still hope we can get it someday. I'd really like to see what Ready at Dawn had planned.

I'd also be down for No Man's Sky 2.

I dare you to make a thread saying that lol.

I'm there with ya
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Originally Posted by TheRealTalker

tsk

don't play with me 4chan... I actually enjoyed PSABR and I have a list of improvements I want to see in a sequel

I'd like to see them try PSABR again, better character representation, better looking UI and just right-out copy Smash's mechanics if you're gonna make a Smash-like game.
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(04-21-2017, 04:26 PM)
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Originally Posted by DriftingSpirit

1M+ views for this thread! Great work, Juan!

Thanks ! never thought this thread would turn so big - happy that this became such a great community
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Originally Posted by JuanLatino

Thanks ! never thought this thread would turn so big - happy that this became such a great community

Best thread on this forum imo. Never had a single problem in here. Really great thread
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(04-21-2017, 05:02 PM)
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Originally Posted by DriftingSpirit

1M+ views for this thread! Great work, Juan!

The thirst is real-
M.D
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(04-21-2017, 05:03 PM)

Originally Posted by DriftingSpirit

1M+ views for this thread! Great work, Juan!

what's the split on physical/digital
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Originally Posted by McMoneyman

I'd like to see them try PSABR again, better character representation, better looking UI and just right-out copy Smash's mechanics if you're gonna make a Smash-like game.

No, the core gameplay is great and it's closer to a tradition fighting game. They just need to the change stupid super to kill mechanic to life bars. Supers can just be damage/utility tools.

Games don't have to play the same to be in the same sub-genre. Guilty Gear obviously is nothing like Street Fighter despite having many of the same mechanics.
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(04-21-2017, 05:09 PM)
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Originally Posted by vivekTO

After seeing the results Kaz will be like
@lastminutehero

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LastMinuteHero
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(04-21-2017, 05:22 PM)
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Originally Posted by JuanLatino

Thanks ! never thought this thread would turn so big - happy that this became such a great community

Proud to say I've been viewing this thread since its inception and prior to becoming a member on GAF. Good job JL

Originally Posted by Ricky_R

Wasn't there a version of this gif with kaz's head shopped in?
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Originally Posted by M.D

what's the split on physical/digital

90% digital
HStallion
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(04-21-2017, 05:31 PM)
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If RAD makes a The Order 1886 sequel they need to either decide if they want to keep going down the path set by the first game which I think is a mistake unless they change huge swaths of the game to make better use of that cinematic direction or they should just do a straight up adventure game with some real time elements. Don't bother making a TPS and instead focus on what they really want to do, a huge cinematic adventure story game. Go full Until Dawn/Heavy Rain/The Walking Dead/etc. or go in the opposite direction and make it a more straight forward third person shooter with a lot of cool enemies, weapons, etc.

I don't know if they can honestly make a game like the Order in the same manner as the first game without changing and improving huge amounts of the game in very large amounts.
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Congrats on the thread, it's one of my subscribed now that I check everyday. Gaming side can be toxic, and I've learned to just subscribed to separate communities. Night and day really.

I hope we see some more stuff from Sony's WWS this year, but to be honest, I'm so caught up with quality content, I could use a break from new releases. Besides my Switch and small library, I think GTS is the only thing I'm buying for the rest of the year.
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Originally Posted by Omnistalgic

Congrats on the thread, it's one of my subscribed now that I check everyday. Gaming side can be toxic, and I've learned to just subscribed to separate communities. Night and day really.

I hope we see some more stuff from Sony's WWS this year, but to be honest, I'm so caught up with quality content, I could use a break from new releases. Besides my Switch and small library, I think GTS is the only thing I'm buying for the rest of the year.

I said this about horizon.

I've pre ordered crash,wipeout, what remains of Edith finch,uncharted LL,Everybody's golf and yakuza kiwami....Help
FelipeMGM
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Originally Posted by Cyberia

I don't think that's true.



https://twitter.com/arnemeyer/status/851834334860398592

Originally Posted by Frostman

Yeah, I don't think it is either.

Every comment from ND on when development for the Lost Legacy began has stated they started after UC4 launched. I'm pretty sure Josh Scherr said in an interview that they didn't know what to base the DLC on, and it took them time to work that out.

ND lies all the time for the sake of surprises :P

I guess I have to take their word then, but its really hard to believe. The creative leads were prob done with U4 way before the release even

Originally Posted by Omnistalgic

Congrats on the thread, it's one of my subscribed now that I check everyday. Gaming side can be toxic, and I've learned to just subscribed to separate communities. Night and day really.

I hope we see some more stuff from Sony's WWS this year, but to be honest, I'm so caught up with quality content, I could use a break from new releases. Besides my Switch and small library, I think GTS is the only thing I'm buying for the rest of the year.

yeah, general threads on gaf are pretty toxic and full of bs posts. But the more intimate and community focused are great. This and the MS Studios one are my favorite on the gaming side. Great discussions, great especulations and great people
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Originally Posted by Blackleg-sanji1

I said this about horizon.

I've pre ordered crash,wipeout, what remains of Edith finch,uncharted LL,Everybody's golf and yakuza kiwami....Help

Lol, I'm with you.

I said I was solely doing backlog games but I preoredered Uncharted and Yakuza. I mean, come on. Jak with Uncharted? Nah, man. I got to get it.

I just want to get through a good amount of my backlog before August. So, that is my goal!

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