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Spiral Insanity
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(12-12-2016, 07:05 AM)

Originally Posted by FriedConsole

The fact ther needs to be a confusing chart is a reason why the Pro was a bad idea.

Ok
vivekTO
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(12-12-2016, 07:10 AM)
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Is it me or i see very less red markings , Looking at some recent threads on Gaf I thought the no. would be higher??

Originally Posted by Guess Who

People are more vocal when things are wrong than when things are as expected.

"Times we overreacted in 2016"
J_ToSaveTheDay
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(12-12-2016, 07:14 AM)
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Hey OP, I was looking at Rise of the Tomb Raider and I thought it had substantial frame pacing issues in the 4K checkerboard mode? I have not played my copy since the Pro's launch day, was this addressed in a patch?
Guess Who
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(12-12-2016, 07:15 AM)

Originally Posted by vivekTO

Is it me or i see very less red markings , Looking at some recent threads on Gaf I thought the no. would be higher??

People are more vocal when things are wrong than when things are as expected.
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(12-12-2016, 07:25 AM)
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Any info on Pro enhancements for Let it Die? Someone from either GungHo or Grasshopper mentioned a bump in resolution but you still see quite a few jaggies on a 1080p display.
Liabe Brave
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(12-12-2016, 07:28 AM)
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Originally Posted by J_ToSaveTheDay

Hey OP, I was looking at Rise of the Tomb Raider and I thought it had substantial frame pacing issues in the 4K checkerboard mode? I have not played my copy since the Pro's launch day, was this addressed in a patch?

The Pro version launched with no framepacing issues at all. However, the 1.05 patch introduced pacing issues to all versions of the game, both on Pro and base PS4. That's unfortunate, but the Pro (in all three modes) remains the best option.
Brandon F
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(12-12-2016, 07:29 AM)
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Originally Posted by vivekTO

Is it me or i see very less red markings , Looking at some recent threads on Gaf I thought the no. would be higher??

Keep in mind also, a few of these games have undergone multiple 'Pro-related' patches that in some cases have improved and cleaned up some of the major nitpicks GAF whinged about at launch. (Deus Ex being one example)

And as mentioned, the vocal minority leaps on a scant couple examples of Pro-related issues, while most games are actually improved. Even in those cases, the problems are rarely as dramatic as the internet makes it appear.
RibMan
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(12-12-2016, 07:44 AM)
Excellent idea. Thanks OP! I'm leaning towards getting a Pro, so I'll subscribe to this thread.
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(12-12-2016, 07:49 AM)
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Originally Posted by Liabe Brave

For games you do have, you can post 4K screenshots. I can try pixel counting from those (or you can, using the method I described long ago in this thread).

Knack
- Choice between High Framerate mode (1080p/60fps) and High Resolution mode (only at the beginning of the game - there's no toggle after that).
- High framerate does not seem to be a solid 60fps. I noticed quite a few drops.
- High resolution appears to be limited to 30fps, but I still noticed a couple drops.
- Based on some screenshots I took, I'm estimating that Knack is in fact rendering at 4K on the high res mode (albeit with checkerboard rendering - there's artifacts/dithering all over the place)
- No other graphical improvements as far as I can tell... this game is even uglier than I remember lol
- No HDR

Here are some raw screenshots if you wish to verify this:
http://malzo.com/image/iaY
http://malzo.com/image/iat
http://malzo.com/image/ia8
http://malzo.com/image/iab
http://malzo.com/image/iac
http://malzo.com/image/iae
http://malzo.com/image/iak
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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(12-12-2016, 08:01 AM)
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Great thread. Please keep it updated like a champ because I'm going to bookmark this like a champ.
pgharavi
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(12-12-2016, 08:01 AM)
Whether loquacious or succinct, every list of this type has missed this one MEGATON game:

Hustle Kings! 4K + HDR! lol

Bonus 4K app also always missed: Sony PlayMemories Online.
Tagg9
(12-12-2016, 09:03 AM)
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Mafia III
- I'm guessing 1800p (native upscaled, definitely not using checkerboard), but very unsure about this so please check the screenshots. Actually 1440p - thanks Liabe Brave.
- Graphical improvements as listed on the official site - "increased graphical fidelity and effects, including motion blur, depth of field, visual effects, and more"
- I played through the entire campaign when it first came out, and it looks AMAZING on PS4 Pro in comparison

http://malzo.com/image/iaF
http://malzo.com/image/iaG
http://malzo.com/image/iaB
http://malzo.com/image/iaQ
http://malzo.com/image/iaC
http://malzo.com/image/iaJ
http://malzo.com/image/iaX
http://malzo.com/image/iad
Markitron
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(12-12-2016, 09:13 AM)
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I noticed last night that Arkham City got another update that specifically mentioned new Pro features. Has anyone tested it yet?
Tohsaka
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(12-12-2016, 09:27 AM)
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Sword Art Online: Hollow Realization has unadvertised Pro support. The framerate in town is increased from 30FPS on 60FPS on the Pro, graphics seem a bit better but I'm not sure if the resolution is actually increased or what.
SURGEdude
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(12-12-2016, 09:35 AM)
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Great list. Subbed.
ZeroX03
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(12-12-2016, 09:37 AM)
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Originally Posted by Liabe Brave

Still broken, as far as I know.

Why isn't it listed?
Possumowner
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(12-12-2016, 09:40 AM)
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Nice thread,list is bigger than I thought
black070
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(12-12-2016, 09:41 AM)
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For World of Final Fantasy:

Originally Posted by raven777

Patch 1.02 confirmed for January 12th. They say it will address the blurry issue using 2K monitors on PS4 Pro.

http://www.jp.square-enix.com/WOFF/special/patch.html
This is for Japan right now. No word on Western date for the patch.

Daante
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(12-12-2016, 09:44 AM)
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Great thread, THANK YOU!
noomi
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(12-12-2016, 09:48 AM)
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Awesome thread, thank you for putting this together

You have certain resolutions listed as dynamic, what does this mean?
Markitron
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(12-12-2016, 10:02 AM)
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Originally Posted by noomi

Awesome thread, thank you for putting this together

You have certain resolutions listed as dynamic, what does this mean?

It essentially means the resolution is lower at certain times to preserve performance.
Usual Suspect
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(12-12-2016, 10:05 AM)
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Great work!!!! Subscribed.
Spiral Insanity
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(12-12-2016, 10:09 AM)

Originally Posted by Tohsaka

Sword Art Online: Hollow Realization has unadvertised Pro support. The framerate in town is increased from 30FPS on 60FPS on the Pro, graphics seem a bit better but I'm not sure if the resolution is actually increased or what.

Oh! Someone go in and do some analysis.
Tyaren
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(12-12-2016, 10:12 AM)
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Great work, OP!

We really shouldn't be seeing any red color in there, should we? :/
Logsi
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(12-12-2016, 10:16 AM)
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I don't think Pro Evolution 2017 has changed for 1080p users. It's definitely not supersampled.
CircusOfClouds
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(12-12-2016, 10:20 AM)
Super helpful! Thank you
UrbanRats
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(12-12-2016, 10:50 AM)
Great job OP, that's gonna come in handy.

It's a disappointing list so far, and very hard to justify the price tag, especially on a 1080p screen.
I was expecting more support from Sony, but i hope they'll pick up the slack better, in 2017 and beyond.

So far the only real reason i'd buy this is to have Last Guardian and FFXV at stable 30fps, which is laughable.
Zhao_Yun
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(12-12-2016, 10:53 AM)
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Very useful thread! Subscribed.

Hatsune Miku: Project Diva X has Pro-Enhancements as well. According to the official Blog:

  • If connected to a TV that supports 4K resolution, you can enjoy the game in 3840×2160 resolution.
  • The image quality of the 3D models have been enhanced.
  • “Photo Studio” mode supports an image reading size of 3840×2160.
  • The PlayStation VR mode has a 90 frames per second support mode.

According to a fellow Gaffer there might be no downsampling for 1080p TV users though:
https://www.segalization.com/2016/12...roject-diva-x/

Hatsune Miku: VR Future Live has improvements as well

  • 90 frames per second support mode.
  • The image quality of the 3D models have been enhanced.

http://info.miku.sega.jp/11505

Translations from Gematsu
http://gematsu.com/2016/11/list-ps4-...japanese-games
Dredd97
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(12-12-2016, 11:01 AM)
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played Batman Arkham Asylum yesterday to check out the PS4 pro patch..

I got the impression this was rendering above 1080p (maybe 1440p) and was downsampled as I couldn't spot any shimmering or jaggies in the image. Game ran close to (as far as I can tell..I'm not a good metric) 60fps

didn't notice any additional effects.

edit : I should state that I'm on a 1080p display
Neifirst
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(12-12-2016, 11:04 AM)
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Thanks, OP. Now to play the waiting game and see which paid employee of a game outlet blatantly takes all of the information posted and repackages a bit as their own with a small credit.
EmiPrime
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(12-12-2016, 11:04 AM)
Great thread, really well researched!
Square Triangle
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(12-12-2016, 11:15 AM)
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Originally Posted by FriedConsole

The fact ther needs to be a confusing chart is a reason why the Pro was a bad idea.

If this is confusing, how do you make it through a regular day?
leng jai
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(12-12-2016, 11:20 AM)
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Originally Posted by Square Triangle

If this is confusing, how do you make it through a regular day?

Just like how you need to have an advanced understanding of quantum mechanics to be able to play games on a PC.
TAJ
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(12-12-2016, 11:24 AM)
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The Resident Evil VII demo has Pro enhancements in both 2D and VR.
SirNinja
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(12-12-2016, 11:31 AM)
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I was just looking for a list like this. Thanks OP!
MarocFAYS
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(12-12-2016, 11:37 AM)
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Anyone know what the specifics are for Steep on the PS4 Pro?
whome0
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(12-12-2016, 11:43 AM)
Call of Duty: Black Ops III: 2160c | 60fps db vsync
What does it mean db tag in CoD game?
Mikasangelos
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(12-12-2016, 11:49 AM)
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Originally Posted by MarocFAYS

Anyone know what the specifics are for Steep on the PS4 Pro?

I've been asking this for days and I can't get any responses.
SURGEdude
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(12-12-2016, 11:50 AM)
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Originally Posted by TAJ

The Resident Evil VII demo has Pro enhancements in both 2D and VR.

Really? That's awesome, do you know what the enhancements are by chance?

Edit:
So it's not clear. They say it's 4K and HDR, but I highly doubt it's native 4K and I'm assuming HDR will be on the base PS4 as well.
Jacob4815
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(12-12-2016, 11:52 AM)

Originally Posted by SURGEdude

Really? That's awesome, do you know what the enhancements are by chance?

Image is cleaner, at least in a 1080p TV.
The Dear Leader
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(12-12-2016, 12:12 PM)

Originally Posted by whome0

Call of Duty: Black Ops III: 2160c | 60fps db vsync
What does it mean db tag in CoD game?

Double buffer.
erotic grandpa
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(12-12-2016, 12:40 PM)
Can't say for sure, but I feel like the last time I popped into Trackmania Turbo they added a ton of lighting effects that I had never seen in the base game. Lots of bloom, maybe even some fog?

They also glitched out pretty badly, so hopefully it was just a fluke on the custom course I was playing.
Oneself
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(12-12-2016, 02:00 PM)
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Originally Posted by Jacob4815

(Steep)Image is cleaner, at least in a 1080p TV.

Yup. Looks like supersampling.

Same for RE7 demo.
Equanimity
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(12-12-2016, 02:06 PM)
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Thanks for the list OP. Great thread!
Jacob4815
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(12-12-2016, 02:09 PM)

Originally Posted by Oneself

Yup. Looks like supersampling.

Same for RE7 demo.

Yes, I mean RE7 demo in my previous post.
Nachtfalke
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(12-12-2016, 02:16 PM)
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The Witness was 900p and 60fps on standard PS4, not 30fps.
Kinyou
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(12-12-2016, 02:20 PM)
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Is there word from Jonathan blow to make down sampling available on 1080p screens? Kind of a bummer that it's not there right now.
spectator
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(12-12-2016, 02:22 PM)
Thanks for the fantastic thread!

There have been reports that Knack was getting a Pro patch, but it isn't in the chart. Does anyone know if it's been enhanced or will be soon?
raziel
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(12-12-2016, 02:26 PM)
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Great resource.
chandoog
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(12-12-2016, 02:32 PM)
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Originally Posted by FriedConsole

The fact ther needs to be a confusing chart is a reason why the Pro was a bad idea.

wait what ..

the fact that you're not able to navigate an easy to follow chart means Pro was a bad idea ?

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