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ShadowKingpin
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(02-28-2017, 12:54 PM)
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Originally Posted by Aztechnology

I keep hearing conflicting things.

Same. Didn't the Day 2 AMD event video that leaked yesterday mention March 2nd?
Wollan
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(02-28-2017, 01:00 PM)
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That's one great OP.

Zen will have a large chunk of the PC gaming market and likely two console platforms in a few years.
Renekton
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(02-28-2017, 01:02 PM)
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Originally Posted by Aztechnology

I keep hearing conflicting things.

I think today is for Vega only.
GinoFelino
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(02-28-2017, 01:35 PM)

Originally Posted by Renekton

I think today is for Vega only.

Vega? What are we going to hear about Vega?

At least the Geforce 1080 Ti thing is today...
dr_rus
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(02-28-2017, 01:50 PM)
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Originally Posted by Aztechnology

I keep hearing conflicting things.


http://www.anandtech.com/show/11143/...sale-march-2nd
spwolf
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(02-28-2017, 01:55 PM)

Originally Posted by Wollan

That's one great OP.

Zen will have a large chunk of the PC gaming market and likely two console platforms in a few years.

If they continue to do well, in 10-15 years maybe.
catspit
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(02-28-2017, 02:02 PM)
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I am on a Core 2 duo E8400 @ 3.0 ghz.. would the AMD 1500 be a big enough step up?
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Originally Posted by catspit

I am on a Core 2 duo E8400 @ 3.0 ghz.. would the AMD 1500 be a big enough step up?

Yes, just to be on a modern instruction set and modern memory.
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(02-28-2017, 02:06 PM)
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Originally Posted by catspit

I am on a Core 2 duo E8400 @ 3.0 ghz.. would the AMD 1500 be a big enough step up?

You've been NEEDING an upgrade for a while, pal. Literally anything on the Ryzen product stack would be a massive step up. Hell, getting a Pentium G4560 or Athlon 860k would be a big upgrade at this point.
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(02-28-2017, 02:31 PM)
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Great OT, thanks Feist!
Engell
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(02-28-2017, 02:45 PM)
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Don't know if this was posted yet, but i randomly found this..
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare...00X/3647vs3915

ds8k
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(02-28-2017, 02:50 PM)
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I've been thoroughly disappointed with my 4690k and r9 390 performance at 1440p. Hoping a 1700X and the new cards are a worthwhile upgrade.
Engell
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Originally Posted by ds8k

I've been thoroughly disappointed with my 4690k and r9 390 performance at 1440p. Hoping a 1700X and the new cards are a worthwhile upgrade.

@1440P its all on the GPU, its a lot to ask of a R9 390.. changing to ryzen (or a 7700k) wont help you that much
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shark sandwich
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(02-28-2017, 03:06 PM)
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Got my 1800X preordered.

It almost seems surreal to see AMD back on top. We have been awaiting the second coming of Athlon 64 Jesus for over a decade now.

I wouldn't call myself a die hard AMD fan, but I am just really happy to see CPUs become exciting again.
potatohead
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(02-28-2017, 03:10 PM)
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Originally Posted by catspit

I am on a Core 2 duo E8400 @ 3.0 ghz.. would the AMD 1500 be a big enough step up?

Dude I had that cpu in like 2008 come on bro
strata8
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(02-28-2017, 03:20 PM)
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Originally Posted by Engell

Don't know if this was posted yet, but i randomly found this..
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare...00X/3647vs3915

That's a rather misleading section/image, it's using peak overclock score there, or an i7 7700K clocked to 5.15 GHz (normal clock is 4.5 GHz).
GinoFelino
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(02-28-2017, 03:24 PM)

Originally Posted by dr_rus


http://www.anandtech.com/show/11143/...sale-march-2nd

Ugh. Launch date = embargo. Not sure if that's a bad sign or just plain stupid on AMD's part.
catspit
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(02-28-2017, 03:24 PM)
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Originally Posted by potatohead

Dude I had that cpu in like 2008 come on bro

My wife has started to complain that the computer is getting slow. I have been trying to put it off for a few years
Engell
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(02-28-2017, 03:30 PM)
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Originally Posted by strata8

That's a rather misleading section/image, it's using peak overclock score there, or an i7 7700K clocked to 5.15 GHz (normal clock is 4.5 GHz).

well you can just compare it to whatever CPU, and if you buy a 7700K I'm guessing u gonna OC it. Btw the Ryzen also has OC scores, so not sure how unfair it is.
also my screenshot was not from the "peak OC" section
shark sandwich
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(02-28-2017, 03:37 PM)
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Originally Posted by catspit

My wife has started to complain that the computer is getting slow. I have been trying to put it off for a few years

Getting slow in daily usage? Or for gaming?

If it's just general usage like launching Windows, web browsing, etc, then it's not a CPU issue. What you want is plenty of RAM (at least 4GB, preferably 8) and a SSD.

Edit: on second thought, your wife is giving you permission to get a new computer. Best take advantage of it! Just make sure you get an SSD as part of your upgrade. She will be blown away at how fast it feels.
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BobbeMalle
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(02-28-2017, 03:37 PM)
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Originally Posted by Paragon

It's $500 US and you have a 20% tax rate, so I'm not sure what you expected?

22%, actually lol
pestul
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(02-28-2017, 03:38 PM)
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Originally Posted by strata8

That's a rather misleading section/image, it's using peak overclock score there, or an i7 7700K clocked to 5.15 GHz (normal clock is 4.5 GHz).

That's the average of the peak overclocks of all the tested users. This bench only says 4.2GHz. If it's 4.2GHz Kaby vs 3.8GHz Ryzen.. I'd be a little disappointed with the SC results tbh. Not that we should put much stake in UserBenchmark anyway. Gaming benches will truly be interesting for those not optimized for more than 4 cores. The good news is that the trend heading forward is for multicore performance.
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(02-28-2017, 03:40 PM)
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Originally Posted by catspit

My wife has started to complain that the computer is getting slow. I have been trying to put it off for a few years

A good excuse as any to upgrade your computer.
Nostremitus
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(02-28-2017, 03:41 PM)
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Originally Posted by GinoFelino

Ugh. Launch date = embargo. Not sure if that's a bad sign or just plain stupid on AMD's part.

Bad sign or good sign.... no way to tell until launch.

Do AMD want to hide the reviews until launch because they are bad?

Do AMD want to hide the reviews until launch because they are good but don't want Intel the undercut them before they can even launch?

Who knows?
potatohead
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(02-28-2017, 03:42 PM)
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Originally Posted by catspit

My wife has started to complain that the computer is getting slow. I have been trying to put it off for a few years

Buy her a beast now do your diligence

Let her know the budget is from a hundred to five thousand give or take
Steel
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(02-28-2017, 03:44 PM)
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Originally Posted by GinoFelino

Ugh. Launch date = embargo. Not sure if that's a bad sign or just plain stupid on AMD's part.

It's pretty usual for this type of thing. Quite annoying, but usual. It's not like CPUs are front-loaded sellers like games are.
Osiris
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(02-28-2017, 03:45 PM)
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It's a CPU launch, not a console or videogame with massive pre-orders, Embargo until launch is normal and says absolutely nothing at all.
Ricerocket
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(02-28-2017, 03:46 PM)
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Seems a bit early for this? OT are usually within 48 hour of launch from what I know. It's still under NDA and all we have are "leaked" benches and nothing on gaming performance.
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(02-28-2017, 03:48 PM)
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Originally Posted by Ricerocket

Seems a bit early for this? OT are usually within 48 hour of launch from what I know. It's still under NDA and all we have are "leaked" benches and nothing on gaming performance.

It is 48 hours until launch. It comes out Thursday.

Embargo just doesn't let up until launch.
Nostremitus
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(02-28-2017, 03:51 PM)
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Originally Posted by Ricerocket

Seems a bit early for this? OT are usually within 48 hour of launch from what I know. It's still under NDA and all we have are "leaked" benches and nothing on gaming performance.

There were conflicting reports about when the NDAs ended. Some reports said today, others said launch... Turned out to be at launch... either way, we ARE currently about 48hrs out...
GinoFelino
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(02-28-2017, 03:53 PM)

Originally Posted by Steel

It's pretty usual for this type of thing. Quite annoying, but usual. It's not like CPUs are front-loaded sellers like games are.

Originally Posted by Osiris

It's a CPU launch, not a console or videogame with massive pre-orders, Embargo until launch is normal and says absolutely nothing at all.

Hm. I don't know if that's true or not so I'll take you guys' word for it.

But given limited quantities and whatnot, I expect pre-orders to play a pretty sizable role in all of this. If benchmarks were today and also not-shit, I'd preorder the hell out of it.
Datschge
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Originally Posted by GinoFelino

Ugh. Launch date = embargo. Not sure if that's a bad sign or just plain stupid on AMD's part.

It seems AMD doesn't want Intel to be able to react in time for the launch. They might be onto something if the rumor is true that Intel wrote all possible sites to contact them first before publishing their Ryzen reviews.

Or plenty of the hardware is not yet in the final state BIOS wise, and the embargo ensures no early bad benchmarks due to bad BIOS versions.
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mattwhite924
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(02-28-2017, 03:58 PM)
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I've been sitting on an overclocked i5 750 for years now, so I'm really excited to see how this pans out. I'd love to jump back to AMD.
dr_rus
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(02-28-2017, 03:59 PM)
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Originally Posted by GinoFelino

Ugh. Launch date = embargo. Not sure if that's a bad sign or just plain stupid on AMD's part.

I think that they are just rushing the launch somewhat, which is confirmed by the testers who have the h/w on hands already. Thus even a couple of days can mean a world of difference in performance between, say, BIOS versions. No idea why the sudden rush though, it's not like there's anything big coming from Intel anytime soon.
tuxfool
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(02-28-2017, 04:02 PM)

Originally Posted by dr_rus

I think that they are just rushing the launch somewhat, which is confirmed by the testers who have the h/w on hands already. Thus even a couple of days can mean a world of difference in performance between, say, BIOS versions. No idea why the sudden rush though, it's not like there's anything big coming from Intel anytime soon.

They want to meet their 1st Quarter deadline, though I suppose they could have delayed it a few weeks.
Nostremitus
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(02-28-2017, 04:03 PM)
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Originally Posted by dr_rus

I think that they are just rushing the launch somewhat, which is confirmed by the testers who have the h/w on hands already. Thus even a couple of days can mean a world of difference in performance between, say, BIOS versions. No idea why the sudden rush though, it's not like there's anything big coming from Intel anytime soon.

Last month of Q1.

Edit: beaten
Colbert
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(02-28-2017, 04:04 PM)
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nice job
General Lee
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(02-28-2017, 04:05 PM)
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The embargo is done this way because reviewers need time to actually review the CPU's. They got the samples after the pre-launch event, so the time is already limited enough as is to make a quality review. Companies don't like to give review samples too early since it'll lead to leaks which negate launch day impact and piss off people abiding the embargo.
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(02-28-2017, 04:14 PM)
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Originally Posted by Mr_Antimatter

I imagine a ton of gamers still rock the 2500/2600, the thing was a masterpiece.

But yeah, i'm really wondering how the midrange of this chip will go. There is a huge market for mid range pc gaming, with a ton of people using 1080p monitors, bleeding edge power is seemingly wasted.

Heck, i'm still rocking a 290x, and that was an upgrade over my previous card. My 2600k/290 still plays pretty much everything I throw at it with respectable frames. Probabaly won't go for the GPU upgrade till the 490 drops.

I'm still on the 2600K. Upgraded GPU to the GTX 1080 from Radeon 7970 Crossfire setup just a few days ago. Was worried my CPU would now be the bottleneck, but so far the GPU upgrade has paid off in spades. Able to run Rise of the Tomb Raider at Very High preset and 2x SSAA in Geothermal Valley at 60 FPS. More CPU intensive games like Guild Wars 2 saw improvement still but not as much. I'd definitely recommend gamers on the 2600K or above make the GPU upgrade first. And also no need to worry about older PCI Express 1.0 Bus on MB. Performance difference negligible with a powerful GPU.
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(02-28-2017, 04:21 PM)
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Just watched some starcraft on twitch and during the Intel ads were writting AMD, ryzen and ryzen >intel. So it looks like amd is getting rid of their bad image a bit, at least when it comes to gamers.
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(02-28-2017, 04:23 PM)
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I'm not big on thread subtitles but this one is pretty perfect.
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(02-28-2017, 04:32 PM)
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Is the 1800x over kill if I don't plan on overclocking? I plan on building a pc soon and that price tag of the best processor is intriguing.
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(02-28-2017, 04:40 PM)
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Subscribing, awesome OT and title.

Do you guys think that amd will launch some ryzen cpu to compete in the G4560 segment? The cheapest ryzen is almost two times as expensive.

Or is that APU market for AMD?

Also, no hope of ryzen cpus for laptops this year right?
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(02-28-2017, 04:42 PM)
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Originally Posted by turmoil

Subscribing, awesome OT and title.

Do you guys think that amd will launch some ryzen cpu to compete in the G4560 segment? The cheapest ryzen is almost two times as expensive.

Or is that APU market for AMD?

Also, no hope of ryzen cpus for laptops this year right?

I almost expect all lower end Ryzen quad cores to be APUs.
abracadaver
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(02-28-2017, 05:03 PM)
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Why is AMD stock collapsing today?
ShOcKwAvE
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(02-28-2017, 05:05 PM)
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Originally Posted by abracadaver

Why is AMD stock collapsing today?

A) Not collapsing.
B) Huge gain yesterday.
Steel
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(02-28-2017, 05:09 PM)
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Originally Posted by abracadaver

Why is AMD stock collapsing today?

Because it went up a lot more yesterday. This is how the stock's been jerking around since it grew from $2.
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(02-28-2017, 05:10 PM)

Originally Posted by Chuckl3s

Is the 1800x over kill if I don't plan on overclocking? I plan on building a pc soon and that price tag of the best processor is intriguing.

we will know in 3-4 days.

For me most intersting part is not just work, but also ability to do several things at once. New Intel SSDs might help with this though.
joesiv
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(02-28-2017, 05:18 PM)

Originally Posted by mattwhite924

I've been sitting on an overclocked i5 750 for years now, so I'm really excited to see how this pans out. I'd love to jump back to AMD.

Me too! With these prices, I feel like jumping at the 1800X and get a nice M.2 upgrade too! I've had Athlon MP, Athlon 64, X2, then intel since
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(02-28-2017, 05:19 PM)
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Yaay OT up. Hopefully all the leaks are true and hopefully the gaming benchmarks will be great.

Thinking of getting the 1800X too, but still vacillating on board choice. May still wait for the ITX boards.

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