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PshycoNinja
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(04-21-2017, 05:59 AM)
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Originally Posted by ZeoVGM

Because some people are very sensitive to frame rate issues.

For example, I don't notice the issue in Mario Kart 8 for Wii U but for others, it's very bad.

For me, FFXV hurts my eyes if I play for too long.

Originally Posted by ZeoVGM

Would you like a screen shot of my trophy list or would you like to pretend this didn't happen and not be embarrassed because you felt the need to blindly defend a video game you admittedly haven't played yourself?

I am not sure how to respond to these posts when you posted this not more than two hours ago...

Originally Posted by ZeoVGM

I've had the game since day one and I've played about an hour or so.

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Originally Posted by Aeriscloud

Fixing the worst Final Fantasy in two decades is no easy task, I'm glad they are trying.

Originally Posted by Mister Wolf

Lipstick on a pig.

Originally Posted by Squire

Perfect.

Was wondering when you guys would show up. How have you been?
badcrumble
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(04-21-2017, 06:03 AM)
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Curious to see what the new weapons are like.
Chun-Li
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(04-21-2017, 06:12 AM)
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I know it's a long shot but I would really hope they fix the frame pacing issues >_<

I doubt there will be real improvements. It will likely just be an option that matches what lite mode used to be. Meanwhile, high mode will be unplayable. And then the unlocked mode will still be undesirable.
Wolf Akela
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(04-21-2017, 06:19 AM)
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Hope the English text is even larger. Those Japanese screenshots look barely bigger.
NavyPharaoh
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(04-21-2017, 06:38 AM)
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Every time they announce an update I just keep pushing back when I'll play the game.
royox
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(04-21-2017, 06:39 AM)
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So I understand this patch includes 0 new content/cutscenes to fix the mess of story.
NoctisVsStar
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(04-21-2017, 06:41 AM)
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Originally Posted by royox

So I understand this patch includes 0 new content/cutscenes to fix the mess of story.

If you're hoping for a story fix that ain't happening, it will continue to be a mess.. that dream is dead.
Hentailover
(04-21-2017, 06:42 AM)
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Originally Posted by benzy

Pro updates.

Should we rename them into "Bro updates"?
Tyaren
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(04-21-2017, 06:49 AM)
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Originally Posted by benzy

Pro updates.

I'd be afraid...very afraid. There surely is at least one way they can actually mess up again. Like fixing the framerate or framepacing but suddenly disallowing downsampling for 1080p TV owners, lol.

By the way, that fix, whatever it is, does seem to concern the HQ mode and not the Lite/performance mode. Why would they name it "image quality mode" otherwise?
jdstorm
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(04-21-2017, 06:55 AM)

Originally Posted by royox

So I understand this patch includes 0 new content/cutscenes to fix the mess of story.

Originally Posted by NoctisVsStar

If you're hoping for a story fix that ain't happening, it will continue to be a mess.. that dream is dead.

The story is what it is. Its done. Let it be.

Or write 1000s of words in a GAF LTTP that no one will read because you need the cathartic release like i did. http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1354685
Irishonion
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(04-21-2017, 06:57 AM)
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Originally Posted by Tyaren

I'd be afraid...very afraid. There surely is at least one way they can actually mess up again. Like fixing the framerate or framepacing but suddenly disallowing downsampling for 1080p TV owners, lol.

:/ damnit I wasn't even thinking about it. And it's happened to other games. I really hope not. I like my hq mode. But to broke for a good 4k tv.
PLASTICA-MAN
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(04-21-2017, 06:58 AM)
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Didn't they promise an updated PRO mode with more graphical details coming this year? Is it now or should we wait till the end of the year?
royox
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(04-21-2017, 06:59 AM)
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Originally Posted by NoctisVsStar

If you're hoping for a story fix that ain't happening, it will continue to be a mess.. that dream is dead.

Didn't they add new cutscenes and bits of gameplay for the ch.13 explaining better Ravus, the emperor and what Gladio+Ignis were doing? I expected them to keep going with those added cutscenes to fix Luna, Ifrit and Ardyn at Least.
burgerdog
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(04-21-2017, 07:00 AM)
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Something has to be fixed with this new mode cause "stable" is what "high" aims for and mostly sticks to it. The only problem is the framepacing. So it would be damn weird if they had two exact 30fps modes. Hopefully they did fix the pacing.
Tyaren
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(04-21-2017, 07:05 AM)
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Originally Posted by burgerdog

Something has to be fixed with this new mode cause "stable" is what "high" aims for and mostly sticks to it. The only problem is the framepacing. So it would be damn weird if they had two exact 30fps modes. Hopefully they did fix the pacing.

The Nova Crystallis news says:

The new update will introduce additional features for PS4 Pro users, including a new image quality mode. This mode will allow for stable framerate and comfortable play.

"Image quality" has to refer to a new or fixed HQ/checkerboarding mode. What makes the most sense is that they are actually trying to fix the framepacing, because the framerate is a near solid 30fps there already. Because most people have no clue what framepacing is, they just call it a framerate fix?
SoulUnison
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(04-21-2017, 07:05 AM)
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Originally Posted by That Dude John

Forget them weapons, just put that Dragoon Jump back in.

Isn't that just one of Gladiolus' Link Strikes, or did they remove that Link for some reason?

At the very least it was in the Judgement Disc demo, because I specifically made a video for it.
CloudNein
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(04-21-2017, 07:06 AM)
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While they're add it they need to add an option to revert the main screen background back to the original if you want it. I do not like the post game screen. It doesn't set the mood.
Wishmaster92
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(04-21-2017, 07:09 AM)
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Hopefully a 1080p mode with graphics from the first developer demo.
tcrunch
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(04-21-2017, 07:14 AM)
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Neat. Playing through this right now, looking forward to the bigger menu text.
Tyaren
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(04-21-2017, 07:15 AM)
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Originally Posted by Wishmaster92

Hopefully a 1080p mode with graphics from the first developer demo.

But "image quality" does not refer to graphics but resolution.

I'd love a 1080p mode with higher graphical settings though! O:
Mobius 1
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(04-21-2017, 07:18 AM)
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I will take a 1080p with better graphical settings. Shadowing and draw distances for example.
MetalliCabombination
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(04-21-2017, 07:31 AM)
I need a 1080p mode with dusacae lighting pls.
Squire
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(04-21-2017, 07:34 AM)
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Originally Posted by royox

Didn't they add new cutscenes and bits of gameplay for the ch.13 explaining better Ravus, the emperor and what Gladio+Ignis were doing? I expected them to keep going with those added cutscenes to fix Luna, Ifrit and Ardyn at Least.

The issues with this game's story are pretty fundamental. They're not going to insert any amount of cutscenes and make it a good one. It'd need to be re-written entirely.
jimmypython
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(04-21-2017, 07:41 AM)
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good for them to still update this game.


i stopped paying attention to this game a long time ago.
Gitaroo
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(04-21-2017, 07:42 AM)
hope this new "image quality mode" isnt just 1800checkerboard with unlock frame rate lol.
That Dude John
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(04-21-2017, 07:45 AM)
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Originally Posted by SoulUnison

Isn't that just one of Gladiolus' Link Strikes, or did they remove that Link for some reason?

At the very least it was in the Judgement Disc demo, because I specifically made a video for it.

That link is probably still in there somewhere. I meant the solo one you could do waaaay back in the Duscae demo when Noctis could spend MP for particular weapon attacks.
GreenMakoEyes
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(04-21-2017, 07:48 AM)
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another Pro update, nice!
killatopak
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(04-21-2017, 07:52 AM)
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I hope they don't remove variable frame rate and just add another option for the 30fps cap. I can't notice the judder, screen tear or frametime issue at all. I'm 10 hours in the game and it feels smooth to me.

What I do notice is the increased sound of the fans. Hope they fix that as even on menu it spins like crazy.
Lucreto
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(04-21-2017, 07:58 AM)
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I need an update that stops my Pro from sounding like a jet engine. I have to turn off lite mode to play it.
Melkezadek
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(04-21-2017, 08:03 AM)
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Awesome! Bought this game a couple of weeks ago and been enjoying the hell out of it. Glad I didn't listen to the naysayers.
MetalliCabombination
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(04-21-2017, 08:31 AM)

Originally Posted by Melkezadek

Awesome! Bought this game a couple of weeks ago and been enjoying the hell out of it. Glad I didn't listen to the naysayers.

Why would you do that?
Why would you not go out of your way to not like something thats so cool to hate?
Melkezadek
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(04-21-2017, 08:47 AM)
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Originally Posted by MetalliCabombination

Why would you do that?
Why would you not go out of your way to not like something thats so cool to hate?

"Stand by me" opening made my heart almost burst and swept me off my feet.

Game is exactly what I needed.
Wagram
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(04-21-2017, 08:52 AM)
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Neat to see that they're fixing their fix. Not sure i'll even update though. It seems like no one even cared for Episode Gladio (and i've heard it's not very good anyways).

This game is just cursed.
Perfo
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(04-21-2017, 08:58 AM)
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Unless it takes out little resources from their team I don't understand why they're releasing updates so frequently for an offline game out from months when most people already bought it and the changes are in any case so little that new players would not even notice or care. Just bring the next DLC pack or FF sequel and move to the next project, perhaps this time releasing it in a better status instead of patching it through the months...
Vashetti
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(04-21-2017, 09:05 AM)
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Originally Posted by Perfo

Unless it takes out little resources from their team I don't understand why they're releasing updates so frequently for an offline game out from months when most people already bought it and the changes are in any case so little that new players would not even notice or care. Just bring the next DLC pack or FF sequel and move to the next project, perhaps this time releasing it in a better status instead of patching it through the months...

Because they have season passes to sell, and an upcoming multiplayer expansion.

They're trying their hardest to mitigate people trading their copies in.
fvng
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(04-21-2017, 09:07 AM)
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How much does it cost to put out a patch/update on PS4 and Xbox
ZeoVGM
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(04-21-2017, 09:15 AM)
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Originally Posted by PshycoNinja

I am not sure how to respond to these posts when you posted this not more than two hours ago...

Those posts do not cancel each other out. What are you talking about exactly?
Toth
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(04-21-2017, 09:15 AM)
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Originally Posted by Perfo

Unless it takes out little resources from their team I don't understand why they're releasing updates so frequently for an offline game out from months when most people already bought it and the changes are in any case so little that new players would not even notice or care. Just bring the next DLC pack or FF sequel and move to the next project, perhaps this time releasing it in a better status instead of patching it through the months...

I believe this has already been explained many many times: SE is trying a new model of expanding the life of their titles for at least a year. FFXV is the ' guinea pig'. All we have seen and know to be coming are additions to the game for that purpose. FFXV is a finished product (yes, yes, some content was cut, it happens...) and these patches are meant as additions, not fixes. The fact they can improve some areas as requested by their fans (i.e. in regards to ring magic) is just a wonderful bonus.

edit: Also remember that FFXV was not designed with the Pro optimization in mind. SE clearly hoped to get the game out before the cut-off and patch in Pro support later. That they had to force it in at the last minute was apparent.
RagingAvatar
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(04-21-2017, 09:30 AM)
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Personally, I'm hoping for a patch for Xbox One to support dynamic resolutions (I assume it doesn't do that already) - so that when it runs on Scorpio it hits 4K.
MilkBeard
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(04-21-2017, 09:36 AM)
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Originally Posted by AlexFlame116

Just gonna pop in and say hooray more updates! Glad to hear that we're getting more music and Pro stuff! Keep em coming!

Now I'm gonna leave and not look in again since this thread is gonna go sour like the usual.

Yup ha ha. Almost finished with Dark Souls 3 DLC, now I will move back toward finishing FFXV.
stonebeard
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(04-21-2017, 09:41 AM)
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Originally Posted by benzy

Yeah, seems it's lite mode locked to 30fps.

New “Stable Mode” added to the PlayStation 4 Pro resolution options. With this mode, you can comfortably enjoy playing the game with a stable frame rate.

http://gematsu.com/2017/04/final-fan...4qTQETGmjzk.99

Lol so no framepacing fix and basically just reverting to a mode they already had... My god really SE.
chandoog
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(04-21-2017, 12:04 PM)
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Originally Posted by benzy

Pro updates.

Pretty much.

Patching like this sort of makes me glad I still have my copy shrink wrapped.
ryushe
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(04-21-2017, 12:09 PM)
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Originally Posted by True Fire

No, they're just fixing their mistake from the previous upgrade.


What are the new songs? More NieR I hope

I'm sorry, more NieR?

As in there's already some NieR?
JoeNut
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(04-21-2017, 12:11 PM)
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Already sold it, i guess this is good for people who are late to buy the game, but IMO i don't see how this entices people back to play more if they've already completed the game.
Fatmanp
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(04-21-2017, 12:33 PM)
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I finally started playing this last week after holding out for numerous pro patches. The frame pacing is annoying but I have gotten used to it. The frame pacing should only be an issue for you if you have the ability to forgive the shockingly bad camera and awful battle system otherwise I would not worry to much about it.
jdstorm
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(04-21-2017, 12:41 PM)

Originally Posted by Fatmanp

I finally started playing this last week after holding out for numerous pro patches. The frame pacing is annoying but I have gotten used to it. The frame pacing should only be an issue for you if you have the ability to forgive the shockingly bad camera and awful battle system otherwise I would not worry to much about it.

Try control scheme C. I found putting attack and defense on the triggers was much easier and ultimately more enjoyable then holding a face button. It also gives you a free thumb to control the camera as you fight.
N7.Angel
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(04-21-2017, 01:18 PM)
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framepacing issue makes the game unplayable for me, I'm still at the beginning of the fucking game because of it and I can't tell if it's goodone or not, I wish the refund system was in place for shit like this, seriously, the FF is the worst team of Square
butman
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(04-21-2017, 01:35 PM)
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Originally Posted by benzy

Pro updates.

60 fps?
Arkeband
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(04-21-2017, 01:42 PM)
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Originally Posted by SoulUnison

Isn't that just one of Gladiolus' Link Strikes, or did they remove that Link for some reason?

At the very least it was in the Judgement Disc demo, because I specifically made a video for it.

It's saying something when Episode Duscae possibly had deeper combat than the final version.

"Things are looking good, fan reactions are mostly positive, let's build out the systems we have and..."



"FUCK IT JUST HAVE THEM HOLD THE O BUTTON WE DON'T HAVE TIME"
sackninja
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(04-21-2017, 01:46 PM)
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Originally Posted by SoulUnison

Isn't that just one of Gladiolus' Link Strikes, or did they remove that Link for some reason?

At the very least it was in the Judgement Disc demo, because I specifically made a video for it.

I swear I've done that in the game before...

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