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LordOfLore
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(04-21-2017, 01:30 PM)
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Eurogamer:

Prepare To Dice

Following a disgustingly successful Kickstarter campaign which closed out a full $3.7m over its $50k target, Dark Souls the Board Game is finally finished and ready to ship. Steamforged games kindly sent me a copy ahead of time, which I used to make the video review embedded below. As I dove into the very heavy box (the core set alone weighs in at a hefty 3.4kg), however, I found my mind repeatedly coming back to a comment during the initial kickstarter announcement from Steamforged Games - "Prepare to die. Because this will be the hardest board game you have ever played."

The thing is, while that statement certainly fits thematically with the Dark Souls franchise - or, at least, the way the Dark Souls franchise is marketed - it's not a great fit for a board game. Having an improbably hard board game isn't something to be proud of.

That's not to say I don't like a challenging board game, of course, especially when it comes to cooperative games that put everybody in the same boat, but unbeatable boardgames have a tendency to become unplayed board games. I can see my copy of Forbidden Desert - a game I have beaten all of once - from where I'm typing this, for instance, and the best it can expect from me for the foreseeable future is a suspicious scowl.

As I unpacked Dark Souls the Board Game and its sumptuous miniatures, in other words, I worried that Steamforged had shipped an imbalanced product for the sake of living up to Dark Souls' reputation for difficulty. Thankfully, I was swiftly proved wrong.

Just as the game assets have been recreated with great care, Dark Souls the Board Game also does a great job of capturing what it is that makes the souls games so compelling: not that they're hard per se, but that they're exacting. They exercises in failure, yes, but also in repetition and keeping your wits about you.

More at the link.
Kaibutsu
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(04-21-2017, 01:32 PM)
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I bought it for the look of the models but will probably never play it
Pan0u
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(04-21-2017, 01:33 PM)
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Originally Posted by Kaibutsu

I bought it for the look of the models but will probably never play it

I know that feel, bro.

Same here.
Ninja Kn1ght
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(04-21-2017, 01:34 PM)
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Originally Posted by Kaibutsu

I bought it for the look of the models but will probably never play it

Ha, same.
gschmidl
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(04-21-2017, 01:36 PM)
Some video reviews:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2C4dyfKBHAk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cs6HO50RofA
strafer
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(04-21-2017, 01:37 PM)
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Originally Posted by Kaibutsu

I bought it for the look of the models but will probably never play it

Yeah.
febLey
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(04-21-2017, 01:38 PM)
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Some words on the framerate and the resolution?
socksfelloff
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(04-21-2017, 01:39 PM)
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Originally Posted by febLey

Some words on the framerate and the resolution?

Apparently there's no Pro support or AA.
FlutterPuffs
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(04-21-2017, 01:41 PM)
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Originally Posted by febLey

Some words on the framerate and the resolution?

Pretty good, 1000 fps is possible.
dragonyeuw
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(04-21-2017, 01:41 PM)
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Is it coming to Switch?
hotcyder
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(04-21-2017, 01:43 PM)
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Originally Posted by dragonyeuw

Is it coming to Switch?

Board games do run pretty well on the Switch



(stealthplug)
Chronology
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(04-21-2017, 01:43 PM)
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Man y'all are no fun, it's really interesting to see how they took something as quintessentially videogamey as a boss encounter in DS and translated it to the language of table top games. I'd definitely love to pick this up if it weren't so expensive
dragonyeuw
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(04-21-2017, 01:45 PM)
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Ok serious post, I had no idea this was a thing but I'm interested, my problem would be rounding up enough friends to play it to make it worth my while.
Rookhelm
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(04-21-2017, 01:47 PM)
I've ordered this as well...looking forward to it.

I just wish the core game came with a little more, especially considering they destroyed their KS goal.

they offered so much as "extras", which would add up super quickly if you wanted to buy them all.
wipeout364
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(04-21-2017, 01:47 PM)
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Is it harder than xenoshyft? Because if it's like that it becomes a chore to play.
Baraka in the White House
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(04-21-2017, 01:48 PM)
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I will probably never play this but I will paint the SHIT out of those figures.

Really wish Bloodborne had gotten a proper tabletop game and not just a crappy card one.
hank_tree
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(04-21-2017, 01:50 PM)
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Originally Posted by Rookhelm

I've ordered this as well...looking forward to it.

I just wish the core game came with a little more, especially considering they destroyed their KS goal.

they offered so much as "extras", which would add up super quickly if you wanted to buy them all.

Yeah I'm pretty happy I got in at the KS and got like 6 of those expansions for "free".

Edit:

Originally Posted by Baraka in the White House

I will probably never play this but I will paint the SHIT out of those figures.

Really wish Bloodborne had gotten a proper tabletop game and not just a crappy card one.

The Bloodborne game is a tonne of fun. Also a lot more affordable than DS.Probably easier to get to the table to cos it's short.
Rookhelm
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(04-21-2017, 01:54 PM)

Originally Posted by hank_tree



The Bloodborne game is a tonne of fun. Also a lot more affordable than DS.Probably easier to get to the table to cos it's short.

Is the bloodborne game a card game or board game, or is it kind of a mix?
hank_tree
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(04-21-2017, 02:57 PM)
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Originally Posted by Rookhelm

Is the bloodborne game a card game or board game, or is it kind of a mix?

Every player has their own board for tracking some stats etc.
But it's basically a card game. You have a hand of cards which are weapons and the bosses are on cards etc.
febLey
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(04-21-2017, 03:10 PM)
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Didn't watch the full video, but where can I purchase this?
RagManX
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(04-21-2017, 03:13 PM)
My son wanted me to support this on his behalf so we'd get the game, but I just couldn't afford it. Need to watch the review videos and see if skipping this turned out to be a good thing for me.
admiraltaftbar
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(04-21-2017, 03:16 PM)

Originally Posted by febLey

Didn't watch the full video, but where can I purchase this?

Amazon has it up for preorder for $119. I'm kicking myself for forgetting to back this as you get a bunch of expansions and the base game for 80.
Plum
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(04-21-2017, 03:20 PM)
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Kind of regretting cancelling my pledge for this now. If not for the figures alone this seems like a good thing to have.
Bloodporne
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(04-21-2017, 03:22 PM)
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"Reviews for Dark Souls:..."



"...The Board Game"



Souls fanboy hype train needs some brakes applied apparently, shame on me!
Starviper
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(04-21-2017, 03:29 PM)
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Originally Posted by admiraltaftbar

Amazon has it up for preorder for $119. I'm kicking myself for forgetting to back this as you get a bunch of expansions and the base game for 80.

Yuuup. Super glad I got on board. Was a little wary and coming into this thread I was half expecting a bad review, but it actually sounds like they did a great job. Can't wait to get this in the mail and actually run through it with friends :D
Last edited by Starviper; 04-21-2017 at 09:23 PM.
crowphoenix
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(04-21-2017, 03:32 PM)
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That the quote in the OP implies that Forbidden Desert is some sort of unbeatable challenge is an interesting note to take from that review; especially in terms of judging how hard the game is.

If he found DS more manageable than Forbidden Desert (which is not that terribly difficult), Dark Souls should not be too insane. So that is good for my group.
Lord of Castamere
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(04-21-2017, 03:32 PM)
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Originally Posted by Bloodporne

"Reviews for Dark Souls:..."

"...The Board Game
Souls fanboy hype train needs some brakes applied apparently, shame on me!

You were expected a Dark souls game to be stealth released? I don't understand.

"Reviews for Dark Souls 4: Revealed, Reviewed, and Released the same week!"
Cartho
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(04-21-2017, 03:34 PM)
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Has it got proper framepacing though?
Ban Puncher
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(04-21-2017, 03:36 PM)
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DARK SOULS THE FLAMETHROWER!!
hamsjams
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(04-21-2017, 03:37 PM)
Very excited to play my copy when it arrives. It having a singleplayer mode means I'll get more mileage out of it than most board games.
Bloodporne
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(04-21-2017, 03:37 PM)
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Originally Posted by Lord of Castamere

You were expected a Dark souls game to be stealth released? I don't understand.

"Reviews for Dark Souls 4: Revealed, Reviewed, and Released the same week!"

Logic does not apply, my internal reaction was completely based on irrational fanboy response haha.
Vazra
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(04-21-2017, 03:41 PM)
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Dark Souls Xtreme Prepare To Die Volleyball when?
Cato the Censor
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(04-21-2017, 03:46 PM)
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"Gifted" this to my sister-in-law. Soo exited to play it finally. I saw it at Spiel and it looked really good!
theonerayman
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(04-21-2017, 03:48 PM)
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Me and a buddy went in and split the cost of the kickstarter plus a bunch of the extras when the survey launched. I really hope this shows up soon!
Jinaar
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(04-21-2017, 03:51 PM)
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Backed and awaiting my game. Bought initially for the minis but I never did read it originally that it can be played by one person. Ohhh I'm down for that.
super-famicom
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(04-21-2017, 03:57 PM)
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I initially backed the Kickstarter but then changed my mind. I love Dark Souls, but I was a bit wary of all the Kickstarter extras hype. I love tabletop games, but some of the gameplay I saw didn't really grab me. I can wait, since I have a ton of other games to play. I did back the Superhot card game though. That looks fun.
Rookhelm
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(04-21-2017, 05:30 PM)
What extras do you get for contributing to the kickstarter?
Chris R
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(04-21-2017, 06:42 PM)
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This looks so cool, but not $120 cool unfortunately :(
Lumination
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(04-21-2017, 06:46 PM)
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This was the closest I ever got to kickstarting something. The mechanics looked pretty well thought out. I'll buy the full set + expansions when it's all released.
super-famicom
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(04-21-2017, 06:50 PM)
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Originally Posted by Rookhelm

What extras do you get for contributing to the kickstarter?

Stretch goals included a ton more figures and there were also add ons for boss expansions. These kind of things seem to be super popular on Kickstarter at the moment, but I'm not into having dozens of figures if I don't really need them.

You can check them out here: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects...the-board-game
Novocaine
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(04-21-2017, 06:54 PM)
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The most import question still needs to be answered though.


Was it made by the A team or the B team?
Chris R
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(04-21-2017, 06:55 PM)
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Originally Posted by super-famicom

Stretch goals included a ton more figures and there were also add ons for boss expansions. These kind of things seem to be super popular on Kickstarter at the moment, but I'm not into having dozens of figures if I don't really need them.

You can check them out here: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects...the-board-game

Seeing all the extra stuff included for backers makes the $120 Amazon is charging for the core game seem even more expensive :( Oh well, maybe I'll find a copy in a Goodwill or something 10 years down the road.
SmiteOfHand
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(04-21-2017, 07:08 PM)
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Originally Posted by super-famicom

Stretch goals included a ton more figures and there were also add ons for boss expansions. These kind of things seem to be super popular on Kickstarter at the moment, but I'm not into having dozens of figures if I don't really need them.

You can check them out here: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects...the-board-game

I'm not much into figs. Dark Souls theme makes them slightly more alluring, though, but I'd be just as happy with tokens or whatever. The size growth between regular enemies to bosses does add a nice bit of visual drama.

Although costly, if the game is popular enough it will likely get an insert like one of these, which can make organizing/setup very nice.
Wagram
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(04-21-2017, 07:17 PM)
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Pretty sure most people bought it for the models.
Eusis
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(04-21-2017, 07:24 PM)
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Originally Posted by Lord of Castamere

You were expected a Dark souls game to be stealth released? I don't understand.

"Reviews for Dark Souls 4: Revealed, Reviewed, and Released the same week!"

Maybe he's really excited to see more people review the original Dark Souls? Some people have very specific interests.
Paltheos
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(04-21-2017, 07:31 PM)
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Man, this was a much trippier (and more interesting) experience when I read the topic title simply as 'Reviews for Dark Souls: The Board Game' as opposed to the intended 'Reviews for Dark Souls: The Board Game'.

"How will he fellate Dark Souls?" was a sentence that ran through my head, but I guess most people think better of Dark Souls than I do. ... Yeah, that's it. I got nothin' else.
Experien
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(04-21-2017, 07:34 PM)
Ignore Dice Tower's "review," he hates on it for the same reason he loves other games. Also biased against Kickstarter games.
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(04-21-2017, 07:36 PM)
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Originally Posted by Novocaine

The most import question still needs to be answered though.


Was it made by the A team or the B team?

It was made by the only team :P
Waxwing
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(04-21-2017, 07:39 PM)
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Originally Posted by crowphoenix

That the quote in the OP implies that Forbidden Desert is some sort of unbeatable challenge is an interesting note to take from that review; especially in terms of judging how hard the game is.

If he found DS more manageable than Forbidden Desert (which is not that terribly difficult), Dark Souls should not be too insane. So that is good for my group.

Yeah, that was weird to me, too. Forbidden Desert comes with (I think) four difficulty levels, and the first two just aren't very hard since it's meant to appeal to a very wide variety of ages and abilities. But then, this is a board game review from a videogame outlet. You're better off going to boardgamegeek if you're looking for reviews that more thoughtfully weigh the merits of the game itself versus its use of the license.
Noaloha
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(04-21-2017, 09:12 PM)
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Originally Posted by Starviper

Was a little weary and coming into this thread I was half expecting a bad review, but it actually sounds like they did a great job.

Don't spell wary like that. You aren't communicating what you want to communicate.

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