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IrishNinja
(05-09-2013, 03:08 PM)
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for the last few months, a group of us have been putting together threads for retro systems - highlighting hidden games, showing off collections & general love for some classics. I wanted to make the rest of GAF aware of this (if ya'll weren't) and see if anyone wants to help out with the systems we currently don't have threads for - pretty much down to Amiga, Collecovision, Japanese PC's, CD-i & such at the moment!

anyway, whether you wanna do a tribute thread or just discuss the classics, come on down!

Originally Posted by Teknoman

Ok so here is the RetroGAF media list (basically GAF that upload things / have a website / podcast / etc.

Youtube:
Gunstarheroes
CJ Iwakura
Dusk Golem
Teknoman
Stewy
Huggers
Discoalucard
CoachKevin
Timu


Podcasts:

Mzo's Wonderdudes in Gamesoft World
CoachKevin's Back in my Play

Websites:

D.Lo's Nintendosegajapan

Last edited by IrishNinja; 05-02-2016 at 09:18 PM. Reason: updated new threads/needed ones
Yes Boss!
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(05-09-2013, 03:17 PM)
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There is a newly-minted PCE/TG-16 thread. But it is slow moving, kinda like the system's popularity back in the day ;-(

We also need a Mod to change the title to TG-16 or PCE/PC Engine as it comes off as a generic PC computer thread and probably gets passed.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthre...411&highlight=

And, of course, we need an upscaler thread.
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IrishNinja
(05-09-2013, 03:19 PM)
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crap, don't know how i missed that one...adding to the list! yeah we should have a mod hit it up though.

also i was thinking there's gonna have to be some kinda testing extravaganza when the Retron 5 drops, to see how it compares to OG hardware...it'd be cool if they somehow got the Genesis' sound right
Tain
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(05-09-2013, 03:20 PM)
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These system-specific threads are good. Just the right scope for what they are and the audience present here, I figure. I'm glad they are around.

I really can't stand the use of the word "retro" to refer to old/classic games, but the internet's momentum is clearly against me on that one. :[
Volotaire
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(05-09-2013, 03:22 PM)
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I have to give this game some love. The AMIGA version. Not the ports. It's Zool.



An amiga thread would be great.
Volotaire
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(05-09-2013, 03:24 PM)
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Woops double post.
Andrew.
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(05-09-2013, 03:27 PM)
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Nice thread Irish. Always this time of year I get a major hankering for 8 and 16 bit love.

Here's my NES Spring Challenge thread if any of you wanna partake. Im still working on StarTropics, Simons Quest & Metroid.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=540483
Fine Ham Abounds
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(05-09-2013, 03:46 PM)
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There's this old Neo-Geo pocket thread also, but it doesn't get much activity. Lotta info though.

I've got 2 in a box somewhere, I should really see if they still work.
andymcc
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(05-09-2013, 03:47 PM)
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Originally Posted by Tain

These system-specific threads are good. Just the right scope for what they are and the audience present here, I figure. I'm glad they are around.

I really can't stand the use of the word "retro" to refer to old/classic games, but the internet's momentum is clearly against me on that one. :[

can we just use the phrase "objectively better games" instead
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(05-09-2013, 03:49 PM)
Yes Boss!
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(05-09-2013, 03:51 PM)
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Originally Posted by andymcc

can we just use the phrase "objectively better games" instead

I dunno, there are so many amazing games that come out now. That is like saying "They don't make any good movies anymore, I'm sticking with the classics." But there are great movies (and games) that come out each and every year.
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(05-09-2013, 03:51 PM)
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We either need an arcade gaming thread or more gaffers who collect/play arcade pcbs.
Tadale
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(05-09-2013, 03:52 PM)
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Poor current gen releases has really got me back into my retro collection, emulation over the last couple of months.

I finished Super Mario 64 with 120 stars last week, and I'm currently working my way through Super Mario RPG again, both thanks to Club Nintendo coins.

I'm also playing through Dragon Quest V for the first time, and I've been messing around with The Wily Wars, which never having access to the Sega Channel, I've never played before. On NES, I've been messing around with a few games, like Rygar and Clash at Demonhead.

I've really enjoyed the collecting threads in recent months.
Secret Fawful
(05-09-2013, 03:54 PM)
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We need more love for the MSX on here. I found a topic about it that only had like six replies. I recently completed War of the Dead Part 2 on it and it's one of the best survival horror games I've ever played.

I also really want to get into some PC Engine classics.
andymcc
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(05-09-2013, 03:54 PM)
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Originally Posted by Yes Boss!

I dunno, there are so many amazing games that come out now. That is like saying "They don't make any good movies anymore, I'm sticking with the classics." But there are great movies (and games) that come out each and every year.

I'd also contest that pre-blockbuster film making is objectively better than current film, even if i love a lot of current films. can't say the same for games though.
Fine Ham Abounds
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(05-09-2013, 03:57 PM)
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Originally Posted by andymcc

can we just use the phrase "objectively better games" instead

I'd like to agree with you, but I remember fishing through aisles of garbage at the Children's Palace or Babbages looking for the good stuff back in the day too.
andymcc
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(05-09-2013, 04:07 PM)
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Originally Posted by Fine Ham Abounds

I'd like to agree with you, but I remember fishing through aisles of garbage at the Children's Palace or Babbages looking for the good stuff back in the day too.

me too. i was being a little facetious tbh. the highs of old games still are preferable to stuff nowadays though. i really chalk this up to a decline of output on home consoles for Japanese developers.

fuck you for mentioning children's palace though. such fond memories and now i'm on a nostalgia trip. my dad bought our TG-16 there when the one in my hometown went out of business.

Originally Posted by Secret Fawful

We need more love for the MSX on here. I found a topic about it that only had like six replies. I recently completed War of the Dead Part 2 on it and it's one of the best survival horror games I've ever played.

I've always wanted to try this game. is it cart or disk? (my MSX2 doesn't have the disk drive built into it unfortunately).
entremet
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(05-09-2013, 04:08 PM)
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I call these threads wallet killers lol.
andymcc
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(05-09-2013, 04:11 PM)
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Originally Posted by entrement

I call these threads wallet killers lol.

yep. i used to be HUGE into retro game collecting. i was thinking about rebuilding my Famicom and PC-E collection and good god the prices have skyrocketed from when i got the majority of my collection.
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(05-09-2013, 04:12 PM)
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Awesome thread Irish, and I LOVE the picture from DKC. So much wisdom was said by Cranky in that game :)

I would love to get more info on upscalers and mods as well, have a Toploader that I want to mod, but have no idea what kind of combination of mod and upscaler that would give me the best picture.
saveweyard
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(05-09-2013, 04:21 PM)
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Great thread! An upscaler/how to make your old games look awesome thread would be much appreciated. I've actually been doing a bunch of reading on the topic but I don't own an upscaler myself, so I'm probably not the most qualified to make a thread about it.
andymcc
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(05-09-2013, 04:30 PM)
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Originally Posted by saveweyard

Great thread! An upscaler/how to make your old games look awesome thread would be much appreciated. I've actually been doing a bunch of reading on the topic but I don't own an upscaler myself, so I'm probably not the most qualified to make a thread about it.

some of those Japanese XRGB scalers are expensive, but apparently worth it. I really want one. :(
Yes Boss!
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(05-09-2013, 04:33 PM)
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Originally Posted by andymcc

I'd also contest that pre-blockbuster film making is objectively better than current film, even if i love a lot of current films. can't say the same for games though.

Ah, I see the movie blockbuster era as the time period from the twenties to the late fifties (and a short upswing in the seventies). But I know what you mean about the big brassy global productions that started with Jurassic Park kinda being like what gaming of today has become. The difference being that movie admissions at present are still way below the heyday whereas the gaming audience has always increased.

That said, year in and year out there are a dozen to two dozen exceptional games that stand right along with the games from prior generations.

That is why I agree with Tain, and tend not to use the Retro naming convention.

Originally Posted by andymcc

some of those Japanese XRGB scalers are expensive, but apparently worth it. I really want one. :(

They are getting back to normal with the exchange. About $300 now!
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andymcc
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(05-09-2013, 04:35 PM)
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Originally Posted by Yes Boss!


That said, year in and year out there are a dozen to two dozen exceptional games that stand right along with the games from prior generations.

there's a few each year, i agree, but the highly-touted titles never seem to strike me in the same way as other players. for the record, I have probably put more time into MH3U this year than any game in the past four or five years.

Originally Posted by Yes Boss!

That is why I agree with Tain, and tend not to use the Retro naming convention.

i think it's a sorta arbitrary designation too. "classic" or the even more dreaded "old-school" aren't exactly fitting either.
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(05-09-2013, 04:36 PM)
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I am a fan of retro gaming.
Yes Boss!
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(05-09-2013, 04:39 PM)
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Originally Posted by andymcc

there's a few each year, i agree, but the highly-touted titles never seem to strike me in the same way as other players. for the record, I have probably put more time into MH3U this year than any game in the past four or five years.

That is the rub. We don't necessarily know quite yet what those game are. Maybe in ten, or twenty years we will have a better idea. Yeah, most won't be the titles everybody is talking about right now.
Chacranajxy
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(05-09-2013, 04:40 PM)
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Fuck old games. Y'all need to get with the times.
andymcc
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(05-09-2013, 04:41 PM)
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Originally Posted by Yes Boss!

That is the rub. We don't necessarily know quite yet what those game are. Maybe in ten, or twenty years we will have a better idea.

I see where you're coming from here. But, for the record, there are certain genres that have dominant popularity that I have absolutely no interest in. I guess older games match my sensibilities better because I have sorta narrow tastes in gaming.
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(05-09-2013, 04:41 PM)
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Aww yeah.

A lot of those appreciation threads actually made me go back and pick up some games. A lot of them ended up being games I would always see on store shelves but never bought, or games I rented and had fun with but was never inclined to buy. I'm sure everyone is already aware of the site but http://www.racketboy.com/ deserves a spot in the OP. Anyone play Robotech Battlecry? I remember I only had a Gamecube and really wanted to play Zone of the Enders...based off of Boxart I picked it up. It definitely wasn't Zone of the Enders.
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Secret Fawful
(05-09-2013, 04:43 PM)
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Originally Posted by andymcc

I've always wanted to try this game. is it cart or disk? (my MSX2 doesn't have the disk drive built into it unfortunately).

It's two floppy disks.
Chacranajxy
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(05-09-2013, 04:43 PM)
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Anyway, depending on my alcohol intake, I might start a Neo Geo thread in the near future. I'd like to do the inevitable PS2 one as well, but that's barely old-school enough to care about right now, so whatever.

But yeah, these threads have made me drop way more cash than is reasonable. And that's a good thing.
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(05-09-2013, 04:45 PM)
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IrishNinja <3

Will follow this thread unlike the rest of them excluding SNES.
khaaan
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(05-09-2013, 04:49 PM)
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Looks like the Gamecube apperciation link goes to the SNES page =P
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(05-09-2013, 04:50 PM)
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Just an FYI, I'm going to be starting a streaming series after E3 that we're dubbing "Game School" on our Twitch page. Each stream will highlight a different retro system, and we'll talk about the systems history and show some actual gameplay.

I'm working with Elgato to work a kink out in their software as it works with X-Split, but even now it's working great (Elgato supplied us with a Game Capture HD with an S-Video dongle for this series.)

My Duo's audio just took a crap, so I'll probably start with the SNES or Saturn, and work my way through what I have until I get the Duo fixed/modded. I can still do PCE cards in the Supergrafx though.

Systems that will be included:
Turboduo/Supergrafx
SNES
N64
Sega Saturn
Sega Dreamcast
Genesis/Sega CD/32X
Sega Master System (I need more games first, but it's a Japanese unit for the better music)
Neo Geo (mine is modded with component out and UNIBios)
Atari Jaguar
PS1/PS2

Depending on how things go, I may even add older systems like NES, Atari 2600/5200, Intellivision, Colecovision etc, but I have to work on getting them connected to the streaming rig :-)
illadelph
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(05-09-2013, 04:50 PM)
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retro GAF is best GAF

we need a proper N64 thread like yesterday
Dash Kappei
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(05-09-2013, 04:55 PM)
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I really want to see the Neo-Geo thread come to life, amazing system
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(05-09-2013, 05:21 PM)
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Yeah, not a fan of using the term retro either. I much prefer old school.

In all seriousness, an N64 thread should be a high priority. =D
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(05-09-2013, 05:23 PM)
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These threads have been pretty enjoyable and informative.
RM8
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(05-09-2013, 05:26 PM)
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Please be more excited for the WonderSwan thread :(
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(05-09-2013, 05:47 PM)
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It's as if you've created a place where all games are good and nobody will ever argue.
Chacranajxy
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(05-09-2013, 06:29 PM)
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Originally Posted by gunstarhero

It's as if you've created a place where all games are good and nobody will ever argue.

...come to think of it, nobody ever argues in the retro threads. Holy shit, I think we've stumbled upon the solution to everything.
Linkhero1
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(05-09-2013, 06:30 PM)
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I've always wanted a TurboGrafx-16. I think it might be the next thing I gun for. It's a bit on the pricey side though.
andymcc
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(05-09-2013, 06:32 PM)
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Originally Posted by Chacranajxy

...come to think of it, nobody ever argues in the retro threads. Holy shit, I think we've stumbled upon the solution to everything.

wait until someone brings up preferences for SNES or Genesis sound processors.

;)
RM8
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(05-09-2013, 06:32 PM)
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BTW since it's mentioned in the OP - Is there any painless way to get into Amiga gaming? It's always been somewhat intriguing to me, but Amiga games haven't really exploded in modern digital stores. It seems like you need to own the real thing in order to experience it, that's kind of not an option for me :/
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Originally Posted by Chacranajxy

...come to think of it, nobody ever argues in the retro threads. Holy shit, I think we've stumbled upon the solution to everything.

Someone rename this thread "RetroUtopia: No jerks allowed" before it's too late.
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Munin
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(05-09-2013, 06:35 PM)

Originally Posted by Rm88~

BTW since it's mentioned in the OP - Is there any painless way to get into Amiga gaming? It's always been somewhat intriguing to me, but Amiga games haven't really exploded in modern digital stores. It seems like you need to own the real thing in order to experience it, that's kind of not an option for me :/

You can buy this: Amiga Forever

It's a legal emulator bundle that's been around a long time.
RM8
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Originally Posted by Munin

You can buy this: Amiga Forever

It's a legal emulator bundle that's been around a long time.

Thanks! I might try buying the "Value Edition" for this. It's really weird that it includes 40 games installed but you can't find a list of them anywhere, though :S
Fine Ham Abounds
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(05-09-2013, 06:58 PM)
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Well, the reason the retro threads are always calm and composed is because it's a niche topic full of nostalgia, it's based on products mostly only collectors are interested in, 99% of the games anyone will discuss in here are the only ones good enough that most of us old farts can even remember them, and since everything is vintage, any social commentary, trends, or agendas associated with them are just as vintage, and possibly even no longer relevant.

Originally Posted by Munin

You can buy this: Amiga Forever

It's a legal emulator bundle that's been around a long time.

Ooh. Similar fascination here, everything Amiga is uncharted territory for me.
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