If by 60 you mean constantly oscillating between 40 and 60 (against some bosses it dips below that, and quite a few in game cutscenes are running at a locked 30fps) then yeah. Otherwise, I hope bayonetta 2 runs at a solid 60.
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60 fps gameplay vids for various Wii U games @ E3
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If by 60 you mean constantly oscillating between 40 and 60 (against some bosses it dips below that, and quite a few in game cutscenes are running at a locked 30fps) then yeah. Otherwise, I hope bayonetta 2 runs at a solid 60.
Try installing http://www.cccp-project.net/ and use the bundled media player classic. Make sure hardware acceleration is enabled for h264 in the libavfilter settings.
The team in LA thought it was 60 fps and encoded the video at 60. I reviewed all their videos before putting them online, and the game was without any doubt possible running at 30, so I asked them to encode the video again at 30. Our off-screen 60 fps videos show a lot more frame blending than our 30 fps method, so you don't want to encode at 60 fps unless absolutely required.
With both games coming out next year, I wonder if they've been able to migrate to a more recent and efficient SDK. Smash is also (supposedly) 1080p@60fps and is set to release next year as well. Should look better this time next year as Sakurai kept on stressing the graphics are still a WIP.
radio_apeshot
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These games look beautiful. Thanks OP.
Mario is impressively smooth!
Mario is impressively smooth!
plagiarize
Banned
It's so good to have reliable eyes on all of these things. You've never led me astray. Pikmin is 30 fps too correct? I presume so since that video is also encoded at 30 but you didn't specifically call it out as with Wind Walker.
Sir_Crocodile
Member
So I'm confused.
Wind Waker 1080p/30fps
Mario Kart 8 1080p/60fps
Super Smash Bros 1080p/60fps
Donkey Kong 720p/60fps
Mario World 720p/60fps
X 720p/60fps
Pikmin 3 720p/60fps
W101 720p/60fps
Bayonetta 2 720p/60fps
Is this right?
Wind Waker 1080p/30fps
Mario Kart 8 1080p/60fps
Super Smash Bros 1080p/60fps
Donkey Kong 720p/60fps
Mario World 720p/60fps
X 720p/60fps
Pikmin 3 720p/60fps
W101 720p/60fps
Bayonetta 2 720p/60fps
Is this right?
I did not encode that one, but the team in LA always used our 60 fps script first to check if the frames were doubled or not, so unless they were lazy for that one (and I really doubt it), you can assume it's 30 fps.
No. Pretty sure wind waker is 60 and mk8 is 720
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kittens
Unconfirmed Member
All four of those games look absurdly good.
No Wind Waker is 30 and Mario Kart is 1080.
JaseMath
Member
I honestly think this is Nintendo's compromise.
I'm so sick and tired of people saying WW is 60 fps. I'm uploading the video my team encoded mistakenly at 60 fps so people can check for themselves, hopefully it will be enough...
There you go, 60 fps video, 30 fps game. You notice a lot of frame blending, that's why we never encode 30 fps games recorded with our cameras at 60 fps.
http://www.gamersyde.com/leech_30299_1_en.html
Where's your source?
I don't know where they are getting the info from. Must be some poor site or some Nintendo PR misinformation.
On another note,In hope the Zelda Wii U is 60 FPS, will make a nice change from previous 3D Zelda games.
Sorry I don't' have one, its been said in the forums about a hundred times.
For Windwaker to be 60 FPS, they would have to change some of the animations as well.
EDIT : not sure about Mario Kart, but Wind Waker I am definitely sure about.
zero shift
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Seeing that nearly all of these WiiU games (with the one thats not likely by choice) are HD and at 60fps makes me believe that the system really does pack an extra punch that the PS3/360 often lacked. Those consoles usually had to go subHD to get 60fps at times. I mean just look at Bayonetta's video. They're flying through a fucking city and its still HD at a butter smooth framerate. Not saying that the PS3 couldn't do that but it would be quite a task for it to.
i can understand WW. But all the mk media is in 720
I'm not sure now about Mario kart now I think about it. I think I heard somewhere they were targeting 1080, but I could be utterly wrong.
Mario Kart is 720p
PairOfFilthySocks
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Mario Kart is NOT 1080p. If it was they would have been preaching to the rafters about it in their Nintendo Direct.
Thanks for that correction.
I Stalk Alone
Member
I thought that Wind Waker was programmed with the music tempo being directly controlled dynamically by the framerate being presented so making it above the 30FPS to 60FPS would mean the dynamic music would have to be scrapped as it would be double speed. Was this done so the music would by dynamically triggered and synched to a specific event?
Though I would favour a full orchestral soundtrack dynamically coded for a 60 fps target instead.
that being said 60 fps makes me really want to play some of these games.
Though I would favour a full orchestral soundtrack dynamically coded for a 60 fps target instead.
that being said 60 fps makes me really want to play some of these games.
PairOfFilthySocks
Member
So was Dark Souls, before Durante swooped in
No 60fps for Wind Waker is disappointing. How much more effort would it be? I'm guessing they just made 30fps animations. What else would need to be done?
Astrogavol
Member
This Is sooooooo beautiful, definitely not dolphin style. HD Nintendo Is welcome.
But what about the long silence during the interview ?? weird, Like if they have nothing to said about their games :/
plank
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So was Dark Souls, before Durante swooped in
No 60fps for Wind Waker is disappointing. How much more effort would it be? I'm guessing they just made 30fps animations. What else would need to be done?
like I Stalk Alone said it implemented because of the mechanics of the music and setting also the Wind Waker wand gameplay.
Bolded the parts of the list that are questionable or have conflicting information on GAF. Someone needs to hammer this shit down.
All but one image in the Smash Bros. media is 720p, as well. So....
They weren't preaching 1080p in any of their Smash Bros. content, either, so...
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Retro_
Unconfirmed Member
Wonderful 101 is 720p/60fps
With the "OMG 1080p" stuff getting thrown about, I saw at least a few people lump this into the rest of it.
linko9
Member
Yeah what exactly is the source for Smash being 1080p? If it's just some nintendo rep on the floor, that means absolutely nothing. They said that about other nintendo games last E3 that were 720p.
A 1080p screenshot in the press package, and Eurogamer reporting on it, which means it comes from a source higher up than some guy on the show floor.
megabytecr
Member
OP please include these videos, not 60fps but they have good gameplay.
That Mario gameplay has subtle but great gameplay stuff I had not seen in other videos.
A Baseball
Wow is the cat suit cute
Hitting boxes filled with small goombas
Mario got a piranha plant that ate all other pirahna plants
The pipe stage is the one that looks best
Luigi can jump longer
Very smooth and clean.
After all the disappointment I am guessing we will be surprised by this game at the end, its going to be great.
Nintendo did a bad job on how they showed this.
Made some GIF's of wonderful 101, not 60 FPS though due to size.
How come I can see some slight pixelation/artifact like effect in these? Just started with Adobe Premiere a few days ago, so I don't know all that much.
Is that possible to smooth out this type of pixelation thing in GIF's (Besides using a filter or effect.)? I exported with Animated GIF at 100 quality, Maximum Render Quality, Frame Blending, 29.97FPS (Same as source.), Progressive Field Order. 1.0 Aspect Ratio at 370x208 resolution (From 640x360.). It didn't seem like any changes in resolution, aspect ratio, field order or frame blending affected it.
Or could it be caused by a codec? Does anyone else see a pixelationish effect in these GIF's? (Dots.)
How come I can see some slight pixelation/artifact like effect in these? Just started with Adobe Premiere a few days ago, so I don't know all that much.
Is that possible to smooth out this type of pixelation thing in GIF's (Besides using a filter or effect.)? I exported with Animated GIF at 100 quality, Maximum Render Quality, Frame Blending, 29.97FPS (Same as source.), Progressive Field Order. 1.0 Aspect Ratio at 370x208 resolution (From 640x360.). It didn't seem like any changes in resolution, aspect ratio, field order or frame blending affected it.
Or could it be caused by a codec? Does anyone else see a pixelationish effect in these GIF's? (Dots.)
big black woman
Member
looks so much better at 60 FPS, should be an industry standard.
ElectricKaibutsu
Member
I don't get why so many people are so sure WW is 60fps. Nintendo never said that, and it wouldn't even make sense, all the animations from the original are 30fps. Would Nintendo have redone them all and not brag about how they did that?
People at best buy events have played it and said it was 30 fps.
We never released a 60 fps video of WW (well, I guess now we did, but it was to prove my point). And the Killzone trailer was released by Sony as a 60 fps video with 60 fps scenes in it, so as far as I'm concerned right now it's not a 30 fps game. Why they did that, I doubt we'll ever know.
BolognaSoup
Member
What's up with the floor person in the Bayonetta video asking him to pull back his camera shot. "We want to make it clear that it's a person actually playing the game." Like we can't tell that from simply watching it or the fact that thousands of people were there that could see it being played?
Anyway, these games all look sooooo gooooood.
Anyway, these games all look sooooo gooooood.
KojiKnight
Member
Err... why would that change anything? Wind Waker still runs at 30fps on dolphin...
As for the person above mentioning gifs, gifs are limited to 256 colors, so colorful/fast changing scenes are going to be dithered.
In Dolphin, some games have their fps internally locked (like Dark Souls) including Wind Waker and Resident Evil 4, both of which never go above the target 30 fps.