Yep, a good amount of the people that developed FF7 and those working on the remake know how important Aerith death is to the game.
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FF7 Remake looking at FFXIII saga as model for release, possible plot changes
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Yep, a good amount of the people that developed FF7 and those working on the remake know how important Aerith death is to the game.
semiconscious
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well, i should certainly hope so!
...I'd say it's getting closer to a remaining, at this point. Not quite Silent Hill: Shattered Memories territory, but less faithful to the original than remakes like Rise of the Triad or REmake.
Frozenprince
Banned
Over under on at least 4 Gackt appearances?
The firat Hobbit film is great though.
Zombegoast
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So they are remaking a 1997 game to be a trilogy?
Square somehow fucks up a remake.
Square somehow fucks up a remake.
NoctisVsStar
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UE4 > LE it's a no brainer. Of course it's releasing quicker.
Astral Dog
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FFVIIR is looking at FFXIII for inspiration, while FFXV is looking at FFVII , what does this mean!? :O
Act 1 as you describe it is less than 10% of the entire game. I know they said they were going to put effort into expanding the opening Midgar portion of the game for the Remake, but yeah... Having from Midgar to Kalm be 30% of the game would be a pretty wild change.
So PS 4/4.5/5, PS 5/5.5 and PS 6
The Last One
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Cloud will dress as lightning?
Frozenprince
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I think that by plot changes, making all the things in Midgar be way more important could do a lot.
Biggs and Wedge can be plot critical and actual characters instead of "well shit they died that sucks I guess".
Idk I have faith it'll be fine no matter how they parse it out.
bbkkristian
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for real though, I hope SE knows what they are doing. FFXIII is not a great example of game design.
APZonerunner
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Asset-wise, however, Midgar is definitely the most dense part of the game, depending on how they execute the whole world map thing. The third disc in particular is a whole lot of nothing (and was, by all accounts, fairly rushed - in interviews later Nomura, Kitase & others said part of why FF8s final dungeon was so massive was they were making amends for FF7).
Perfect Cha0s
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Isn't this almost exactly what they said back at PSX, but people just went "Oh no that's just what they want you to think. Let me tell you what they're really going to do!" ?
If they are expanding and making things bigger like they say. Then sure. It seems like Midgar itself is going to be huge
Astral Dog
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Dreamwriter
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...which is why they'll switch it up since everyone will be expecting it. This time it's going to be Sephiroth that dies in that scene!
Frozenprince
Banned
Other than the "we'll probably make some plot changes" stuff, pretty much.
those threads were fun.
LowParry
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I'd by that for a dollar!
As long as they nail the Midgar chapter, keep the overall flow of the story the same, keep the goofy elements like Yuffie's "arc" and stuff like Red XIII dressing up and wobbling on his hind legs on the ship from Junon (I'm not worried about the cross-dressing considering how much they're banging on about it), and most important of all, keep the horror elements, I'm game with whatever changes they make to the story. I'm pretty sure they're going to make Cloud a lot less goofy and a lot more mopey, so I'm not gonna fret about that.
Edit: IMO there's three likely scenarios for how they will split up the story/progression:
Scenario 1:
FF7R-I: Midgar
FF7R-II: Kalm-North Crater
FF7R-III: Back in Junon-Ending
Scenario 2:
FF7R-I: Midgar
FF7R-II: Kalm-Forbidden Capital
FF7R-III: Corel Valley Cave-Ending
Scenario 3:
FF7R-I: Midgar-Junon
FF7R-II: Costa del Sol-North Crater
FF7R-III: Back in Junon-Ending
Unless they add new areas or significant story elements I'm skeptical how they'll do it otherwise. Assuming they stick to three parts and not four.
Edit 2: I just realized the part when Cloud rejoins the party in disc 2 is also a significant moment story wise that could work as a natural cutting point.
Edit: IMO there's three likely scenarios for how they will split up the story/progression:
Scenario 1:
FF7R-I: Midgar
FF7R-II: Kalm-North Crater
FF7R-III: Back in Junon-Ending
Scenario 2:
FF7R-I: Midgar
FF7R-II: Kalm-Forbidden Capital
FF7R-III: Corel Valley Cave-Ending
Scenario 3:
FF7R-I: Midgar-Junon
FF7R-II: Costa del Sol-North Crater
FF7R-III: Back in Junon-Ending
Unless they add new areas or significant story elements I'm skeptical how they'll do it otherwise. Assuming they stick to three parts and not four.
Edit 2: I just realized the part when Cloud rejoins the party in disc 2 is also a significant moment story wise that could work as a natural cutting point.
KZXcellent
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Well now that they brought up XIII they're just gonna say it'll be ultra-linear hallways.
People were saying each episode would be 5-10 hours long.
Its how zack goes that bothers me. ACC even adds a scene that hurts clouds character even more. That dude just seems to be stealing clouds thunder now.
Giolon
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Aeris Returns: Final Fantasy VII?
The ~30 hour chunk strategy seems like a potentially good idea to me.
The one change I really want them to make is no random battles. Random battles are terrible. Random spawns are fine, just give the chance to dodge them when I don't want to fight them.
The ~30 hour chunk strategy seems like a potentially good idea to me.
The one change I really want them to make is no random battles. Random battles are terrible. Random spawns are fine, just give the chance to dodge them when I don't want to fight them.
OmegaDL50
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4 years of active development really isn't a long time for a game of FFXV's scope. Some people make it sound like FFXV was full steam ahead for all 10 years or so but this was never the case. It was mostly planning stages and pre-production. A significant majority of FFXV's work was done from 2012 to 2016.
The FFXIII trilogy was released over a 4 year period. FFXIII in 2010, FFXIII-2 in 2011, and Lightning Returns in 2013, and a majority of it's work was mainly from the initial game which started production in 2004.
FF7 having shorter dev cycles to release three 30+ hour length games doesn't mean it will be sat on for years with minimal progress made for the trilogy to complete.
actually they are just going to cut to black and you won't know who died until the next episode
I can easily see them expanding more on Zack a bit
KeyBladerXIII
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If they're going to be making adjustments and changes to the story, can they bring Cissnei back from Crisis Core? Just Cissnei....fuck Genesis...
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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Please, for the love of God, don't do what I think you're going to do.
APZonerunner
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The big problem with this is that the final disc has next to nothing in it. In terms of the original FF7, for instance, it probably only adds about 30 new CG backgrounds to the game in one major location. The final disc is basically a whole lot of grinding through a fairly bland dungeon and a final boss. Indeed, the only reason (supposedly) FF7's third disc couldn't fit on the second was the size of the 10-minute ending FMV, which was like a fifth of all the FMV in the game period. I'm sure they'll make a point to execute it better here, but disc 2 is very dense and disc 3 not very at all, so I can see the split falling in a different place, IE after handing over the Black Materia.
Hibiki Kurosawa
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Nothing terribly new here, but still reassuring to hear.
Cloud freaking out right before you fight Guard Scorpion? That was in the original game.
EDIT: Oh, you mean when he's running away from the Shinra soldiers before he jumps on the train, yeah, that wasn't in the original game. I got confused.
Frozenprince
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I excited for Yuffie to actually like, be a character in this one.
I think he meant when the troops where surrounding him before he jumped on the train.