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Peroroncino · Aug 15, 2017

DJ Lushious said:
What is the context behind this? Did that player really gut-punch an unaware ref?!

From what I gather, he scored and wanted to do a fist pump, unfortunately he didn't know someone was behind him.

And no, this wasn't an attack, especially a disgraceful one lol, he clearly got pissed because it wasn't a dive and he was removed.

whatsinaname said:

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Ikuu · Aug 15, 2017

Relaxed Muscle said:
Meanwhile Luis Suarez:

Zero games banned

Looks like a natural running motion.

*Splinter · Aug 15, 2017

OP baiting people into defending nonsense and you alllll fell for it

Kill Your Masters · Aug 15, 2017

Geoff said:
There is a difference between a dive and a foul that is then hammed up to bring the attention of the referee. It's a problem in football. There are many occasions where a player is fouled and loses momentum and/or control of the ball, leading to an unfairly gained advantage to the other team, but retains his balance and does not 'need' to 'go down'. However, if he does not 'go down' the ref won't give the foul because it is less obvious.

You see this most often in the box. Sometimes a tackle will come in, which would be a foul, but the player chooses to ride it and continue with his attack on goal. However, his attack will often be reduced in effectiveness by the intrusion and will most likely fail. If the player instead 'takes the contact' and 'goes down' he will be usually be rewarded a penalty, from which it is much easier to score. This is why you sometimes hear commentators criticising a player for being "too honest" or saying of a player who 'went down' seemingly unnecessarily, that he was 'entitled' to do so.

TLDR - theatrics from a supposedly fouled player do not necessarily indicate that the foul did not take place.

This is also true, and there are plenty of examples where players - if they would have decided to go down - would have gotten a penalty, but just get nothing instead. It's understandable then that some contacts look more theatrical.

TheGameshark · Aug 15, 2017

Relaxed Muscle said:
Meanwhile Luis Suarez:

Zero games banned

Surprised he didn't use his teeth to stop him

ReplacementPelican · Aug 15, 2017

23qwerty said:
Embellishment is identical to diving

I mean, it genuinely isn't. Embellishment is drawing a referees attention to a foul, diving is faking a foul. They're very different.

Football doesn't work like an illegal tackle is only illegal if it sends you flying. Or a shirt tug is only a shirt tug if you get pulled to the ground.

The Chosen One · Aug 15, 2017

This is one instance where Euro-stars could learn something from an American.

See Clint Dempsey. Get a yellow card, just rip-up the refs notebook and destroy the evidence. The subsequent red card won't matter if the ref can't write it down.

Charles Brandon · Aug 15, 2017

The Chosen One said:
This is one instance where Euro-stars could learn something from an American.

See Clint Dempsey. Get a yellow card, just rip-up the refs notebook and destroy the evidence. The subsequent red card won't matter if the ref can't write it down.

That's excellent. Yellow card? I didn't see it. Prove it.

BunnyBear · Aug 15, 2017

Messi said:
Laying your hands on an official? No.

You are embarrassing yourself.

Mattlikewhoa · Aug 15, 2017

I'm not a huge fan

Unless he comes back to United ^_^

but that wasn't a dive. That being said, he can't and shouldn't be touching the ref, let alone giving him a shove.

He got off light...

RocknRola · Aug 15, 2017

The Chosen One said:
This is one instance where Euro-stars could learn something from an American.

See Clint Dempsey. Get a yellow card, just rip-up the refs notebook and destroy the evidence. The subsequent red card won't matter if the ref can't write it down.

If only there wasn't a 4th referee taking all the same notes as the main ref....

Haunted · Aug 15, 2017

The Chosen One said:
See Clint Dempsey. Get a yellow card, just rip-up the refs notebook and destroy the evidence. The subsequent red card won't matter if the ref can't write it down.

the perfect crime

ExInferus · Aug 15, 2017

Protome said:
Because it's harder to have matches when all the players are banned.

diving would stop if they got punished post match

Dinokill · Aug 15, 2017

Messi physically assaulted RM fans and didn't even get a yellow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnesOQTbWeQ

Sun Bather · Aug 16, 2017

Dinokill said:
Messi physically assaulted RM fans and didn't even get a yellow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnesOQTbWeQ

This belongs on bestgore. Crazy assault

Messi · Aug 16, 2017

BunnyBear said:
You are embarrassing yourself.

Oh no how will I ever live with that.

Ninja Scooter · Aug 16, 2017

Geoff said:
That's excellent. Yellow card? I didn't see it. Prove it.

Rogan · Aug 16, 2017

Frustrated_me said:
I

think this

thread is gonna be

good

The red card was

a terrible call, however, the

push should not have happened.

What was he thinking?

Now, 5 games without the GOAT

.

Good thing we have other players

, and aren't too reliant on Ronaldo.

Close the thread.

F34R · Aug 16, 2017

Ban was upheld despite the challenge. Hmph. We'll see how that plays out in todays match.

HawksWinStanley · Aug 16, 2017

Brannon said:
Rule #2...

Shoryuken!

lol'd at cleavage lady's face in the back

Risible · Aug 16, 2017

People are making fun of the seemingly innocuous nature of the push, but it's not about the amount of force. You touch an official in any way, you get a ban, it's not rocket science.

Tubie · Aug 16, 2017

Risible said:
People are making fun of the seemingly innocuous nature of the push, but it's not about the amount of force. You touch an official in any way, you get a ban, it's not rocket science.

The making fun part comes from the original thread title (before a mod changed it) and the overall tone from the OP.

And also the OP's username is Messi lol.

Messi · Aug 16, 2017

Tubie said:
The making fun part comes from the original thread title (before a mod changed it) and the overall tone from the OP.

And also the OP's username is Messi lol.

Please understand I was just delivering the news. I love the Madristas on this board.

VincentMatts · Aug 16, 2017

WhateverItTakes said:
'Disgraceful Attack'

Messi
Member
Today, 07:23 PM, Post #1

Not that Ronaldo isn't a twat here but loooooooool

Ronaldo shits on Messi. Messi is overrated with that superstar team hes on.

ZenTzen · Aug 16, 2017

That was the push that warranted a 4 game suspension, lol thats so stupid, even the foul didnt warrant a yellow card, at most the game should have just continued, such a shitty ref

Deleted member 325805 · Aug 16, 2017

"attack", lol. When I read about this I thought he threw him to the ground, that wouldn't have even knocked over a toddler.

Rogan · Aug 16, 2017

VincentMatts said:
Ronaldo shits on Messi. Messi is overrated with that superstar team hes on.

Shitting on Messi? Why is Ronaldo better overall? CR7 is an fucking beast and machine but Messi has the talent.

Iniesta is on number three?

Clegg · Aug 16, 2017

I'm surprised at how lenient the ban is. Di Canio was banned for 11 games for doing the same thing. Ronaldo was treated very softly by La Liga.

One of my pet peeves is the length of bans and how lenient some are. Suarez is someone who should've been banned for life. Probably not realistic, but if anyone deserved it it's him. The separate biting incidents were bad enough, but the racism should have seen him thrown out of the game. I did get the lovely sight of him bawling his eyes out after Liverpool threw away the title though. He deserved all the misery he got.

LegendofDragoonLives · Aug 16, 2017

Frustrated_me said:
I

think this

thread is gonna be

good

The red card was

a terrible call, however, the

push should not have happened.

What was he thinking?

Now, 5 games without the GOAT

.

Good thing we have other players

, and aren't too reliant on Ronaldo.

footy gaf always has the best icons lmao
oh my God

EmmaWatsonButt said:
You just can't touch referees, and CR7 (just like Neymar) doesn't get the benefit of the doubt these days when it comes to him losing his balance on his own vs a dive. He shouldn't have taken his shirt off anyways, it's the first fucking leg.

Wonder what the narrative will be if Barca make a comeback at the Bernabeu.

they gotta stop buying bums this summer for that to happen

jimmyd · Aug 16, 2017

nekkid said:
You wouldn't get this in rugby, even down to grass roots. Football players (a lot, not all) need to learn some fucking respect.

This behaviour in top flight is the reason why Sunday league refs fear for their safety.

Seen rugby refs knocked out cold. Seen rugby players attacking fans on the sideline. In professional rugby sure there is more respect shown to the referee, but some players are still dirty dogs, eye gouging, testicle squeezing, that sort of thing. Which refs don't see...

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