Fixed1979
Member
Depends what you mean by better product...actually I don't even think it does matter. The Vita is a better product IMO than the 3DS in nearly every facet.
People seem to be already forgetting how shitty the 3DS launch was...
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Miyamoto: The 'PS Vita Isn't A Very Strong Product'
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Depends what you mean by better product...actually I don't even think it does matter. The Vita is a better product IMO than the 3DS in nearly every facet.
People seem to be already forgetting how shitty the 3DS launch was...
highrider
Banned
this. couldn't have expressed it any better.
Better in every facet, except the one that actually matters, GAMES.
let's give the Vita equal market time and see what comes out for it. Unfair to levy 3D Land, FE, Kart, and Uprising against the Vita when those weren't out at launch.
MisterHero
Super Member
From a business view, Nintendo sure as heck isn't going to forget.
Fixed1979
Member
I'll disagree with that, I really enjoyed Ghost Recon and Mario (World and Kart) got a little bit into the Zelda game but most everything else I bought hasn't really done it for me. If you're a big fan of the Nintendo franchises then you're probably doing alright, for me personally there's already way more games that interest me on Vita in it's relatively short life than have been released for the 3DS. On the rare occasion I pick up my 3DS now it's usually to quickly play Excitebike or another game I got for free. Depends on the experience your looking for.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
What is it to you? Or is it bad enough that you think I'm of a certain allegiance and it consumes you enough to associate me with someone of whom you have an opinion about? I think I'm moving on from this.
Jaded Alyx
Member
The point, is that they were either known about before or shortly after launch. This is the problem with Vita.
Fair
DaveTheSnake
Member
So awesome that my office firewall picked this site up as banned.
The majority of the gaming public obviously agree with him considering the Vita's horrid performance even compared to 3DS initially.
Colonel Mustard
Banned
This thread. You guys.
Fixed1979
Member
Personally I believe that without knowing Sony's targets there's little point to debate how big of an issue it is. I have to believe that the 3DS launch at least had to give them pause and have them rethink their launch plans, I'd love to know exactly how concerned they are about it's current state. I'm sure it's not where they wanted it to be right now but how far off is it from their actually launch targets.
It's fine to disagree, but I would say the majority of the people who buys a Nintendo console/handheld is to play Nintendo franchises.
that1dude24
Member
i'm pretty sure i remember people saying that a couple months after the 3ds launched too
and then i read his quote
Foliorum Viridum
Banned
Eh, maybe, I don't really go in to those threads. All I know is talking shit about Sony or Ninty will get a fuckton of grief coming your way from hysterical nerds.
Colonel Mustard
Banned
So is Miyamoto.
ScreenSplitter
Member
Miyamato didn't, he acknowledged it himself, straight away.
It doesn't even matter; right NOW, the 3DS is outselling the Vita massively.
Considering how bad the sales have been, Sony needs to be in panic mode. Hell, The 3DS was doing much better sales wise and Nintendo still went into panic mode.
And the Vita's situation is much worse than the 3DS's was, what does that tell you?
Surely more than 8.000-10.000 a week in Japan. I hope Sony will dedicate a large chunk of their E3 press conference to Vita, can't wait to see what they have in store.
MisterHero
Super Member
I think his criticisms of both launch windows could also be a criticism of 3rd parties. I mean, if it refers to software variety/quality in general, they have to be part of that complaint too.
This entire line of posts is amazing.
It doesn't matter, noone, not even this interview is focused on what someones personal opinion of the launch lineups is. Its based on the consumers reception of the two handhelds. And they were both received poorly. How much you liked one launch lineup over the other is irrelevant. Never mind the fact that Miyamoto himself remebered exactly how shitty the 3DS launch was...
They better considering we still know almost nothing about games coming - if they are coming.
I think someone suggested once, that pramath threads should have "pramath presents:" before the title. XD
Wii Sports Illustrated would be an awesome name for the next Wii Sports title. Perhaps give it a magazine feel.
how could sony not dedicate like, 90% of their conference to Vita? it's its first E3 with the thing on the market, this has to be the absolute blowout of Vita gaming extravaganza and all that jazz, what are they gonna talk in their conference, PS3 multiplat games?? fuck that, we know GTA5 is coming there no need to use precious time on that.
if Sony doesn't blow me away with Vita this e3 then fuck them, if they won't take their product seriously I don't see why should I.
ScreenSplitter
Member
*cue 45 minute blowout on Sony All Stars*
3DS didn't have much competition during it release while the Vita does(its cheaper than the PSP!). but regardless they do need bring their A game at E3
To me, thats more of a reason to go into emergency mode, not less.
Fixed1979
Member
Don't disagree with the first part. This will definitively be an important event for the Vita, hopefully they don't blow it.
I hope so, the Vita really needs the games and attention. But knowing Sony, they will probably demonstrate, LBP Karting, GOW:A, Playstation All-Stars, Bioshock Move and whatever EA DLC partnership they have, 15 min. per game.
Herbspiceguy
Member
I really like the PSP for the creative & fun games with cool/unique aesthetic such as Patapon, Locoroco, Half Minute Hero, Pixeljunk Monsters Deluxe, Crush, Holy Batman/My Lord series.
Can't believe there isn't anything that's looks as charming graphically with interesting gameplay mechanics for PSVita, and it is the main reason I haven't bought it.
Can't believe there isn't anything that's looks as charming graphically with interesting gameplay mechanics for PSVita, and it is the main reason I haven't bought it.
You forgot charts. Don't they usually have some charts?
Though they often do them in a fairly neat way, like with the LBP integration that one time.
That was effing awesome. Will gladly sit through ~10 more minutes of charts if it's presented like that again.
Chuck Norris
Banned
Hopefully Sony have a way to address this. I'm talking price cuts in line with compelling , well marketed software
Oh who am I kidding
Oh who am I kidding
test_account
XP-39C²
So basically Miyamoto says that the Vita is in the same state that the 3DS was. Sounds like a fair comment.
Uno Venova
Banned
Charizard just makes threads to watch the world burn.
No that will be the week before E3.
This thread is something special, I love my Vita there is no doubt about it, but I really don't see why it and the 3DS can't co-exsist. Despite them both being handhelds I don't think that they would automatically appeal to the same kind of audience for a variety of reasons.
I think the three big conferences are going to shine light on Vitas future greatly, if Sony shows up to all three (E3, Gamescom, and TGS) and ignores, or treats the Vita lightly, then yeah it's probably going to have a rough time doing anything. If they decide to get agressive and have stuff to show from all three markets, then it can come back and remain a stable, and great platform for games.
They need to show games, and that third parties are interested in bringing major games to it in the long term, and they do need at least a slight price drop. If they can atleast price the wi-fi model at $199 and include a memory card then I think that will make a big difference in the Vita being competative on a price scale.
Yeah this is embarrassing. I know that not reading the first post is a bannable offense, but I think the mods really need to start clamping down on the people who just post immediate kneejerk reactions to the thread titles without even checking the discussion beforehand. Additionally, we need to have a discussion on inflammatory, poorly paraphrased titles, which only encourage this kind of behavior. I mean, come on, it's Miyamoto; he very rarely bags on the competition without good reason. Use some common sense people. Chances are, if it's a harsh comment, it's usually a blog twisting something small into something big for hits.
Vita has no Mario to bail it out. RIP Vita