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Magic: the Gathering |OT12| Hour of Devastation - Hour of Jace getting dunked on
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Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Idk this Jace sounds pretty good in UW monument type decks problem is those deck are losing thraben inspector and spell queller.
I hate when they approximate established abilities.
Imperfected
Member
That's better, at least, though I still don't think it's very good.
3 CMC Gideon isn't even setting the world on fire and he's a flat-out much better card.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I don't know what deck it would even go in. None of it's abilities are particularly busted.
Joe Molotov
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Gormless, Skinny Guy Tribal
Imperfected
Member
He does look like he'd get along well with Tibalt.
Have some standards
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
The problem Jace has is that Jace's +1 isn't good in the least, his -2 isn't even vaguely broken and his ultimate isn't either all that achievable or all that good.
The only scenario in which he does anything that great is if you have Doubling Season out. But every Planeswalker ever is good with Doubling Season.
The only scenario in which he does anything that great is if you have Doubling Season out. But every Planeswalker ever is good with Doubling Season.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
it's the first mono green fish too. But it's not really a reason to go green with merfolk.
Imperfected
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Green can't have Prowess because it's not good enough to be a Green mechanic, obviously.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Mono-Green Merfolk don't bother me for an obvious reason: because there's nothing inherently blue about the ocean other than the fact the blue mana symbol has a drop of water in it.
It's yet another thing green is stealing from blue
Oh no, every villain is gonna end up working for bolas for the next several blocks, aren't they?
Just noticed this. Confirmation that Vraska is working for Bolas.
Of course. They needed their Thanos equivalent for their Avengers.
Same difference
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Lorwyn didn't even have oceans and merfolk were UW, UB and a little UG. Wizards takes many creative freedoms with tribes.
Look at the mono white Vampires they are people of faith, a complete antithesis.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Yeah, but fuck blue. Nobody sits down and a table and says "oh good my opponent is playing blue."
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
All this treasure mean it's Marionette Master's time to shine, bay-bee.
I'm starting to feel that way about green
Just noticed this. Confirmation that Vraska is working for Bolas.
Quick question about playing this card: So if the player picks up his cards and has more than seven in his hand, he will have to discard the rest, right? (Unless he/she has a card that allows more than seven, obviously.) I see the main reason to play the card, clear the battlefield, but is the above another way to think about the effectiveness of the card?
I have to say I'm mildly annoyed at this card:
Blue and Red get Prowess, but Green gets permanent prowess? (I know it's a riff of old cards like Quirion Dryad, but still).
Forgotten Ancient and Managorger Hydra say hello. They do the same thing, but better (especially Forgotten Ancient). And Ancient is an old card, certainly pre-dating Prowess (as a keyword ability) by years.
Imperfected
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They don't have to discard until the very end of their own turn, which means they usually end up getting to play enough cards back out to not have to discard.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
yes but only at the end of his or her turn meaning he or she have a chance to replay some of their cards and go below 8 cards. If it were an instant you could do it on their end step like the much maligned Cyclonic Rift.
SigmasonicX
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Discarding down to hand size happens at end of turn, not immediately.
Those two care about spells your opponents cast, not you.
Thanks for the responses.
I am also becoming truly addicted to this fucking game. To the point where it's all I really think about.
They care about spells cast, all of them, right?
"Whenever a player" is what I'm seeing.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Did you not read the second of my two sentences? " (I know it's a riff of old cards like Quirion Dryad, but still)."
Imperfected
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Non-creature spells opponents cast as a source of +1/+1's for a Green creature makes a certain kind of sense, as a "big green meathead who just gets madder and madder about NERRRRRRDS".
Maybe we can get a pre-PW Garruk print with it the next time they do time travel (never?).
Maybe we can get a pre-PW Garruk print with it the next time they do time travel (never?).
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Caring about non-creature spells is weird for green to do, though.
I was just trying to drive home the point even further (that green has a potent/permanent version of prowess), especially because the two examples I brought up are less specific and more universal than prowess.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
kinda, green cares for destroying noncreatures
Not if it results in her getting upset over it an unexpectedly joining The Gatewatch.
Sets up a lot more interesting plot points IMO
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I would be highly surprised if Jace even knows anything about the Gatewatch. I'm guessing he's mind-wiped again.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
How else would a PW be a castaway but getting his mind wiped.
I really would have liked getting a chandra PW with her in the wheel chair.
I really would have liked getting a chandra PW with her in the wheel chair.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I feel fairly confident we're going to see all four of them doing goofball shit in some backwater plane. I imagine Liliana is going to be in Dominaria given that's where she is from.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
That reminds me why is Ajani on Ixalan again? He was supposed to go to Dominaria.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I would think the most valid assumption is that the Gatewatch never came back because they were brilliant and figured they'd fight Bolas head-on and failed so he went to look for then using his kitty-nose.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Paths taken through the blind eternities are only supposed to stay open for a short time IIRC but that's book knowledge which is always in flux.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I don't know what that means.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
PWs can chase PWs through the blind eternities, when a PW opens a path other PWs can reopen them basically and take the same.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I mean, they can just handwave it with "Ajani sensed that shit was going down on Ixalan." Thinking too hard about the Magic story is usually a bad time.
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