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Monster Hunter World - Gamescom Impressions
- Thread starter Chaos2Frozen
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Have you seen the new Sword mode attacks that they've added in MHWorld? As you said yourself the infinite axe swing is only truly viable when when the monster has fallen down: It's situational. Not to mention that at this point it's just a vestigial addition from MH4. I personally wanted some new moves for axe mode in MHW that were good enough to be a part of the Switch Axe's optimal play style in more than one situation. I guess it wasn't meant to be this time around.
You switch back to axe after the burst if you mean that.
Finally. So no fire and reload anymore?
No the quick reload is still there on the movelist after firing. In fact it seems to be possible after every single attack now, and when he did it at the beginning of the video it reloaded all 5 shells.
I see it now they changed it up. I'm so excited I'm keep missing shit!!!
Not even World is able to make me like this weapon. Probably the only weapon I'll never try ever again.
anothertech
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Looks amazing. Is this game exclusive?
He is refering to the fact that the switchaxe is able to switch from axe to sword while attacking and vice versa but Arekkz didn't show it. You can tell when the monster fell he let the sword mode revert back to axe mode by itself because the phial ran out but in actuality you can revert back to axe before the phial ran out to continue the dps attacks instead of waiting a few seconds to revert.
How does it feel to not have any real love in your heart?
dragonlife
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I really like the heat gauge for the Gunlance in Generations, but I won't miss it in World. The weapon is so fun for me regardless. Looks really great in this! I love all the new stuff. And, man, those meaty sound effects for it. Capcom nailed the sound design for the weapons.
It's PS4/XB1 at launch, with a PC version a bit later.
True, however pre-MHGen SA Axe mode feels integral to the weapon flow. You will run out of phial charge no matter what and you'll eventually switch to Axe that have better mobility at the cost of damage. The change is small and looks insignificant, but there's this weak-to-strong flow to the weapon that makes it unique even in the face of CB in MH4U. In MHGen however, with arts that lets you to use Sword mode for longer time, it breaks that flow. Even worse they remove Axe mode forward poke for combo entrance on non-Guild style which makes that mode essentially cumbersome.
I don't have problem "Switch Sword with Axe-themed bonus features" because the original name of the weapon is Switch Sword after all. What's important is to keep that "switch" in the name rings true, not making the user gravitate only towards one mode (which is why I don't like MHXX change to axe mode by making it stronger).
Oh Lordy, looking at Arekkz Gunlance video I can see a few combos to it.
Stab stab shoot backstep repeat.
Stab stab shoot backstep repeat slam ,side wipe and stake.
Stab stab stab slam, shell blast.
Stab stab stab slam, Wyvern blast.
Stab stab stab slam, side wipe.
Stab stab stab slam, side wipe and stake.
Gunlance shouldn't be label as heavy weapon, its a goddamn technical weapon and I fucking love it.
Stab stab shoot backstep repeat.
Stab stab shoot backstep repeat slam ,side wipe and stake.
Stab stab stab slam, shell blast.
Stab stab stab slam, Wyvern blast.
Stab stab stab slam, side wipe.
Stab stab stab slam, side wipe and stake.
Gunlance shouldn't be label as heavy weapon, its a goddamn technical weapon and I fucking love it.
Max got to play Monster Hunter World at Capcom HQ, & he streamed footage of his gameplay.
MagicWithEarvin
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Like Kenny Omega would say, Greatsword fo-fo-fo lyfe!
Chaos2Frozen
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Using the wyvern-stake attack (impale a stake into the monster) overheats the weapon.
MagicWithEarvin
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Wow... I think I found my co-main along with my GS.
You can't use Wyvern fire which is the bigass cannon blast until it goes away. It's just a visual representation of the Wyvern Fire cooldown.
Its just a cooldown mechanic, before you can use it again.
MagicWithEarvin
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I'll just get Beats to be my co-main for gunning stuff down!
Not if Beats joins my lobby first! Hah!
MagicWithEarvin
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Me love you with those infinite stamina buffs, plus high grade earplugs and windproof (L).
pretty done
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A party without a HH is not a good party. Reminds me of Bard in FFXI which is probably why I love playing it.
Plus them KOs
That double ballad, double madrigal hype.
I always tell myself I will learn how to play Hunting Horn but I never
Good time to learn the weapon now that they added the button icons to notes.
Arrekz says that there still there and it plays a lot like 4U's CB.
Quite painful to watch 4 GI people who never played MH. So far every gaming site like IGN, GS, Polygon I saw have someone who is familiar in playing MH.
SpiceMelange
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For a game with a focus on streamlining and helping newcomers I'm surprised they didn't keep the guard point visuals of the CB from MHX and it's back to being an invisible mechanic like MH4.
SpiceMelange
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Not sure what you mean, Arekkz 10min CB in depth video shows the CB is back to MH4 style. No visuals on guard point, UED after shield thrust, etc
https://youtu.be/AoGn9vSVv6I?t=226
Lets take MHGen out of the picture considering that axe mode was non-existent in that game.
When players are solely using axe mode to reload their sword gauge and, only use sword mode attacks because it's the best way to play the weapon: that's a design failure. What's funny is that the original japanese name for the weapon is Slash Axe. What's the point in having a concept for a transforming weapon, two in one, if one mode is objectively superior in almost every way and the other can mostly be ignored entirely? Having slightly better movement speed in Axe mode doesn't make the mode worth using either because in sword mode you can just roll to cover distance or if the monster moves far away you just put your weapon away and run to it.
Capcom just doesn't know how what to do with axe mode, I mean, they tried to balance both weapon modes in MH4 by nerfing the hell out of the sword mode motion values, slightly buffing axe mode values and giving it the infinite chop combo. What did this achieve? Switch Axe went from being one of the best weapons in MH3U to one of the worst in MH4. Check out this weapon tier list for MH4U based on speed run data if you don't believe me: https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/762804-monster-hunter-4-ultimate/72936200
MHWorld's Switch Axe seems just like how it was in MH3U where the sword mode is OP and the axe mode is painfully inferior to it.
Earthpainting
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While you're not wrong on the whole, it does come with the caveat of expectations. As you get deeper into the game, people will start to make demands on what you should use and how you should play. If you wanted to start a mission with a horn without Negate Stamina, Dual Blade users especially would throw some colourful language your way, or just leave the room. I've not encountered toxicity maining any other weapon, so it's probably worth noting.
That is kind of ugly looking, but it's a necessary evil. I often used to use the horn with my phone out, so I could have a glance at the songs on there. I can't help but notice the infinite sign next to the capture net too. If that's used for trapping, that seems like a huge deal?
If you choose the right horn for the mission, you'll be swapping a lot. It's unreasonable to keep 'em all memorised. Especially early on when you're still learning.
SpiceMelange
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IMO Capcom know they failed with the design of the SA and Charge Blade is their fixed attempt at a morphing weapon. My first idea to fix the SA would be to remove the manual phial recharge and you'd have to recharge sword move by hitting with axe mode but that's already the flow of the CB.
That's my jam!
MatrixMan.EXE
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A lot of the people who rushed to badmouth this game when it was announced are looking foolish. Comes to no surprise that a lot of them haven't shown up in this impressions thread.
I meant showing them in actual gameplay compact, my post was a response to the general CB GP conversation not your post specifically.
For special effects though, they may not be done with that yet.
That hummer sliding move looks very spammable, lol:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWu5L8iLdwg