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Liamc723
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(05-09-2016, 01:52 PM)
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Originally Posted by FelipeMGM

Embargo for spoilers drops in 15min, big sites and channels will start talking about this

I think you're seriously overestimating what will actually happen.

Just because the embargo ends, doesn't mean everyone will report on the Easter egg.
FelipeMGM
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Originally Posted by Liamc723

I think you're seriously overestimating what will actually happen.

Just because the embargo ends, doesn't mean everyone will report on the Easter egg.

I hope you are right

But its happening
https://twitter.com/pushsquare/statu...58240447975426
SilentRob
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Originally Posted by SNURB

Here's a little snippet of what the second version of the Boulder level looks like:
http://m.imgur.com/oc2ubaW?r

Nothing's changed. Just placement of crates.

I put a few direct comparison shots up yesterday. It's pretty different actually (and plays a lot worse...)

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthre...#post202965011
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wrestleman
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Originally Posted by SilentRob

I put a few direct comparison shots up yesterday. It's pretty different actually (and plays a lot worse...)

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthre...#post202965011

I'm sure he's well aware, I think he's referring to the fact that there are two versions of the layout within Uncharted 4. The one he linked is the second one, which appears the second time you play Crash later in the game.
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I have to say there's a way better easter egg in UC4 than this one, IMO. Way better.

I explained over in the spoiler-free impressions thread. There is an easter egg which ties to a legendary non-Naughty Dog franchise. And it's not like a comical "oh look at that reference" thing. It's a proper built-in part of the game's lore/backstory which Drake and team are uncovering.

Cross-post so that people can avoid the spoilers if they want by quoting me:

Originally Posted by SomTervo

Sorry for slow reply.

Fairly substantial backstory/context spoiler (up to about 2/3 through the game) and a spoiler for a really good, if subtle non-Uncharted-or-Naughty-Dog-related easter-egg which most people probably will have no clue about:

You know the Founders of Libertalia? The 10 pirates or whatever? Remember the one who Sam can't remember the name of, whose sigil is a monkey?

That's Guybrush Threepwood from the Monkey Island series.

You see his portrait and it's like a strawberry blond guy with a biggish chin and pirate regalia. His name is scraped out. Nate texts Sam and Sam texts back like "I don't recognise the monkey sigil". AKA Monkey Island, Guybrush's original destination and haunt.

Then when you get to the treasury on Libertalia, and there are all the portraits with 'Thief' written all over them? The one with Guybrush has the name mainly scraped out, but you can see it begins with "Gu-".


It's fucking awesome. Naughty Dog legit built the protagonist of one of the greatest adventure games of all time right into their key lore/plot.

RK128
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Originally Posted by SomTervo

I have to say there's a way better easter egg in UC4 than this one, IMO. Way better.

I explained over in the spoiler-free impressions thread. There is an easter egg which ties to a legendary non-Naughty Dog franchise. And it's not like a comical "oh look at that reference" thing. It's a proper built-in part of the game's lore/backstory which Drake and team are uncovering.

Cross-post so that people can avoid the spoilers if they want by quoting me:

Wow.......now THAT is a great reference :D! Considering the game is dealing with treasure hunting and stuff, that isn't shocking that a old pirate star has a cool cameo :). Thank you for sharing this man :D!
wrestleman
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Originally Posted by SomTervo

I have to say there's a way better easter egg in UC4 than this one, IMO. Way better.

I explained over in the spoiler-free impressions thread. There is an easter egg which ties to a legendary non-Naughty Dog franchise. And it's not like a comical "oh look at that reference" thing. It's a proper built-in part of the game's lore/backstory which Drake and team are uncovering.

Cross-post so that people can avoid the spoilers if they want by quoting me:

Well for one thing, that's actually an easter egg you have to look out for and know enough about to get. The Crash thing is a mandatory story segment that they make no bones about lol
NateDrake
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(05-09-2016, 02:59 PM)
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An Easter Egg: Monkey Island https://youtu.be/cCzKUg3jOfk
Osahi
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(05-09-2016, 03:01 PM)
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Originally Posted by wrestleman

So I guess this confirms the Crash shit was specifically embargoed? Or at the very least caught in a catch-all embargo.

https://twitter.com/GameOverGreggy/s...07336868356096

My NDA specificaly stated not to mention easter eggs referring to games outside the Uncharted Franchise.

Also, not to spoil character outcomes (deaths, relationships), not mention if the game has supernatural stuff or not and no plotpoints beyond 2/3's of the game.
SomTervo
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Originally Posted by NateDrake

An Easter Egg: Monkey Island https://youtu.be/cCzKUg3jOfk

Look, like, two posts up.

Beat you to the punch, bub.

Unless you just made this off the back of my post...?

???



Originally Posted by wrestleman

Well for one thing, that's actually an easter egg you have to look out for and know enough about to get. The Crash thing is a mandatory story segment that they make no bones about lol

Both these things are "Easter eggs"!

I'd wager plenty of modern-day players, especially younger gamers, will not get the Crash thing at all.

Originally Posted by RK128

Wow.......now THAT is a great reference :D! Considering the game is dealing with treasure hunting and stuff, that isn't shocking that a old pirate star has a cool cameo :). Thank you for sharing this man :D!

Yeah, it was fucking awesome. I was like "Huh, these are all probably real people. Who's this guy? It would be cool if one of them was that old legend..."

*reads text*

"Wait a fucking minute!!!"
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FelipeMGM
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(05-09-2016, 09:11 PM)
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Got my copy a few hours ago and Im about to play this, Im so hyped to play this segment lol
Scotia
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(05-09-2016, 09:22 PM)
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God, that 'Sony confirms CB rights...' thread is draining.

Originally Posted by FelipeMGM

Got my copy a few hours ago and Im about to play this, Im so hyped to play this segment lol

I'm getting mine in a couple of hours. So hyped!
wrestleman
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(05-09-2016, 09:41 PM)
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Originally Posted by Scotia

God, that 'Sony confirms CB rights...' thread is draining.



I'm getting mine in a couple of hours. So hyped!

That Edson guy is totally incorrect on so many things but I've fallen so far behind in the thread and it's hard to correct. It's frustrating seeing so many falsities about Crash and its ownership online perpetuated and argued.
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(05-09-2016, 09:46 PM)
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Originally Posted by Scotia

God, that 'Sony confirms CB rights...' thread is draining.



I'm getting mine in a couple of hours. So hyped!

That poster is a decent fellow, so confused on why he so strongly believes Crash isn't coming back :l.

Oh well, at least this thread is positive :).
Scotia
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(05-09-2016, 09:48 PM)
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Originally Posted by wrestleman

That Edson guy is totally incorrect on so many things but I've fallen so far behind in the thread and it's hard to correct. It's frustrating seeing so many falsities about Crash and its ownership online perpetuated and argued.

Don't bother man, it's a losing battle. He's just ignoring the posts that genuinely tear through his shitty points. He refuses to believe what anyone has to say and has tried all day to convince random people that he's right. He's lied about a ton of stuff and has resorted to making stuff up to back up his bogus claims. Crash literally brings out the worst in people.

Originally Posted by RK128

That poster is a decent fellow, so confused on why he so strongly believes Crash isn't coming back :l.

Oh well, at least this thread is positive :).

He called me a liar after I told him that he was arguing when I went to work in the morning and was still arguing now, even though he's lied and just made stuff up a ton since then. He's done nothing but bicker with a bunch of people and tried to tell them several times that they're wrong and he's right and he's done it without an ounce of respect towards anyone. I am sorry if this offends you or anything, but that guy's an asshole.
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Scotia
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EDIT: Double post, sorry.
RK128
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Originally Posted by Scotia

He called me a liar after I told him that he was arguing when I went to work in the morning and was still arguing now, even though he's lied and just made stuff up a ton since then. He's done nothing but bicker with a bunch of people and tried to tell them several times that they're wrong and he's right and he's done it without an ounce of respect towards anyone. I am sorry if this offends you or anything, but that guy's an asshole.

Oh, I agree; that was uncalled for how he acted to many in the Crash thread. But working with him on some games in the Mega Man Retrospective was worthwhile and he was respectful to me :).

Still, it was not right he acted so harshly to people :(. Sorry if he bothered or upset you man.
Scotia
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Originally Posted by RK128

Oh, I agree; that was uncalled for how he acted to many in the Crash thread. But working with him on some games in the Mega Man Retrospective was worthwhile and he was respectful to me :).

Still, it was not right he acted so harshly to people :(. Sorry if he bothered or upset you man.

I'm fine now :), but I was just fine until he called me a liar. That really bothered me so that's why I left the thread. I didn't want to get banned over him.

It's cool he's worked with you on threads before though, and I'm glad he was at least respectful to you. I wonder why he was being so hostile in the other thread. The whole thing just seemed really unnecessary.
RK128
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(05-09-2016, 10:12 PM)
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Originally Posted by Scotia

I'm fine now :), but I was just fine until he called me a liar. That really bothered me so that's why I left the thread. I didn't want to get banned over him.

It's cool he's worked with you on threads before though, and I'm glad he was at least respectful to you. I wonder why he was being so hostile in the other thread. The whole thing just seemed really unnecessary.

I guess he is sour on Crash coming back? That is the only reason I could think of for the whole episode today :l.

Glad you are fine now and glad you left the thread when the time was best; getting banned over nothing is dumb XD!
Scotia
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(05-09-2016, 10:18 PM)
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Originally Posted by RK128

I guess he is sour on Crash coming back? That is the only reason I could think of for the whole episode today :l.

Glad you are fine now and glad you left the thread when the time was best; getting banned over nothing is dumb XD!

Possibly. I just never understand the need some users have to 'help quell other people's expectations'. It's such bs. If people want to get hyped, let them! You're just wasting everyone's time trying to change their mind.

Yeah, I really didn't want to get banned over that. I'm glad I left when I did.
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Originally Posted by Scotia

Possibly. I just never understand the need some users have to 'help quell other people's expectations'. It's such bs. If people want to get hyped, let them! You're just wasting everyone's time trying to change their mind.

Yeah, I really didn't want to get banned over that. I'm glad I left when I did.

The goal of investigation is to find the truth, if you catch my drift.
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Originally Posted by wrestleman

That Edson guy is totally incorrect on so many things but I've fallen so far behind in the thread and it's hard to correct. It's frustrating seeing so many falsities about Crash and its ownership online perpetuated and argued.

"That artbook had to credit Activision..."

"THIS ISN'T AN ARTBOOK IT'S A GAME"

Like... I can't... what?
Scotia
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Originally Posted by stan423321

The goal of investigation is to find the truth, if you catch my drift.

That's fine, but just try and not be an asshole to everyone who disagrees with you.
SomTervo
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(05-09-2016, 10:33 PM)
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Originally Posted by Rtbeoh

The reddit guy also said the next TLOU will feature Ellie in her mid 20s a few days ago which I totally can see happening.

Pretty sure this is pure bunk. ND are on record saying (with no agenda to lie) that the core concept behind TLOU2 isn't even pinned down, yet.
wrestleman
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Originally Posted by SomTervo

Pretty sure this is pure bunk. ND are on record saying (with no agenda to lie) that the core concept behind TLOU2 isn't even pinned down, yet.

I'm pretty willing to believe him after calling Dead Don't Ride over a year before anyone else. It could be that is one of the concepts ND is working with in pre-production, not that it's what they're GOING with.
FelipeMGM
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Yeah, that guy its so stubborn to a point that makes me mad lol

But anyway, not really the point of thread but dude, Uncharted 4 is Fan Service The Game, soooo great
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wrestleman
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So when is it going to be okay to have an accurately titled thread about this and the implications of the credits thing?
SNURB
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(05-10-2016, 05:09 AM)
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Yea, with the game out now the embargo has to be lifted.
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Originally Posted by wrestleman

So when is it going to be okay to have an accurately titled thread about this and the implications of the credits thing?

I'd give it a week. The game is about 15 hours long so it'll take time for people to beat it.
pixelation
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(05-10-2016, 05:19 AM)
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Sooo... why aren't gaming outlets making a fuss about Crash being in Uncharted 4 and what it could possibly mean?...
SNURB
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Originally Posted by pixelation

Sooo... why aren't gaming outlets making a fuss about Crash being in Uncharted 4 and what it could possibly mean?...

We'd probably hear more about tomorrow or Wednesday at best. At least Tim Gettys knows about it and went batshit insane.
FelipeMGM
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TBH I did think this would blow up pretty quickly on websites, but kudos for them for not spoiling their readers to this.

But I fthink it wont be long, that section is early in the game
sora87
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(05-10-2016, 02:16 PM)
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Well, that reminded me how terrible I am at crash games
Edson Farley
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(05-10-2016, 05:13 PM)

Originally Posted by RK128

I guess he is sour on Crash coming back? That is the only reason I could think of for the whole episode today :l.

Glad you are fine now and glad you left the thread when the time was best; getting banned over nothing is dumb XD!

Or maybe because no one in that thread had any logical reason for thinking he was coming back?
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Originally Posted by Edson Farley

Or maybe because no one in that thread had any logical reason for thinking he was coming back?

I doubt that.
Edson Farley
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Originally Posted by DriftingSpirit

I doubt that.

Follow me here.

You see an easter egg in Uncharted 4.

What is the more logical conclusion to come to?

A. Activision and ND made a deal

B. Sony Brought the IP! YEAYY!Y!Y!Y!!Y!Y!Y!Y!YY!!Y!Y

I am pretty sure critical thinking doesn't go to B. But hey some people think so so whatever.
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Originally Posted by SilentRob

I put a few direct comparison shots up yesterday. It's pretty different actually (and plays a lot worse...)

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthre...#post202965011

https://youtu.be/ezVUvopTgp4

I put this video together if you want to see a nice comparison.
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(05-11-2016, 12:56 AM)
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Game Informer upload Crash video on YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_ljrUukKt4

guess there is really an embargo about Crash minigame.
Falchion
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(05-11-2016, 05:34 AM)
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Glad I waited to play some before checking out this thread, it was a really cool surprise when they showed the PS1.
BetaM
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Another interesting thing about the minigame and case (potential major spoilers!):

There's also a "Brickstone" case laying around. Such a game doesn't exist, and I think that was their original intended minigame for the game, because if you unlock the concept art for that chapter, you see what could be "Brickstone" being played.
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I made this video (beware, french language : proceed at your own risk) gathering all the relevant information (easter eggs/references) we have on an hypothetical Crash Bandicoot's comeback. I tweeted it to PlayStation France, and here's what they answered :



Which roughly translates to :

"@PlayStationFR, when will we be able to play Crash on PS4 ? :D"
"Right now, with Uncharted 4 ;-)"

You know what really infuriates me ? The wink. If it wasn't for the wink, I'd just think "Eh, they don't want to tease it any more, just wait a couple months and see if there's anything new", but this wink... Tell me there's something going on. You're seeing too, right ? :( I see dead IP's waking up from their eternal rest.
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Lmao the conversation between Elena and Nathan when they discuss what kind of animal he is. That exact conversation I've had with my parents and my friends growing up :')
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Man seeing the PlayStation, the original start up screen and Crash all in the game was such a cool moment.
Mabufu
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Originally Posted by troy-X

I made this video (beware, french language : proceed at your own risk) gathering all the relevant information (easter eggs/references) we have on an hypothetical Crash Bandicoot's comeback. I tweeted it to PlayStation France, and here's what they answered :



Which roughly translates to :

"@PlayStationFR, when will we be able to play Crash on PS4 ? :D"
"Right now, with Uncharted 4 ;-)"

You know what really infuriates me ? The wink. If it wasn't for the wink, I'd just think "Eh, they don't want to tease it any more, just wait a couple months and see if there's anything new", but this wink... Tell me there's something going on. You're seeing too, right ? :( I see dead IP's waking up from their eternal rest.

Well. Sony only said 'Crash rights still belongs to Activision', but they didnt do much to shut down the new game rumours.

Crash is coming, no doubts about it.
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Originally Posted by Mabufu

Well. Sony only said 'Crash rights still belongs to Activision', but they didnt do much to shut down the new game rumours.

Crash is coming, no doubts about it.

Very possibly but I seriously hope it's not going to be made by Naughty Dog - unless they have a small team on the side doing it. The people that made the original game have mostly left the company so it's not like there is a ton of history there.
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Originally Posted by dark10x

Very possibly but I seriously hope it's not going to be made by Naughty Dog - unless they have a small team on the side doing it. The people that made the original game have mostly left the company so it's not like there is a ton of history there.

Let me speculate a bit here.

We know this generation has yet again increased development costs for your average AAA game, and the manpower required to make them has gone up. ND has split into a two teams studio after Uncharted 3, and it's quite possible that after Amy Hennig's departure, and due to Uncharted 4's demands, they had to merge back into one team. Now to make sure Sony continues to get around 2 Naughty Dog games per 3-4 year periods, and to make sure all talent can be retained and kept busy at all times, I find it likely that they would want to have a smaller team that can deliver smaller games in between their big AAA releases. That's how I could see Crash coming back under ND.
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The one thing that got me from that easter egg was afterward when Ellie literally said "Well you got what you wanted" I really hope Crash comes back but that kind of seemed like it was a nod to the fans.
SNURB
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(05-11-2016, 07:23 PM)
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Jesus so it's neigh impossible to beat Elena's score?
BetaM
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Originally Posted by SNURB

Jesus so it's neigh impossible to beat Elena's score?

Impossible to beat it in the first one, easy in the second one.
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Originally Posted by BetaM

Impossible to beat it in the first one, easy in the second one.

Your avatar looks like my artwork ... but I don't think it is...?


By the way...I was speaking to my fellow Crash Twinsanity developers yesterday, and we were discussing maybe creating a documentary with interviews, and the like, from the development of that game. Would any of you be interested in seeing such a thing?
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