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Cidd · Jul 28, 2013

Gskyace said:
Eurogamer is still wrong about it.
The flexible memory used to be 1 GiB virtual and 512MiB physical.
Now is 512 MiB virtual and 512MiB physical.

The physical flexible memory is unchanged.
And 1GiB virtual memory has been changed long ago.

A wild Gskyace appears.

Spill it...

odhiex · Jul 28, 2013

Thanks @Aquamarine for the summary, It is really hard sometimes for me following the thread with 3000+ posts overnight.

beast786 · Jul 28, 2013

James Sawyer Ford said:
You know things? So what does the final breakdown look like for the PS4's RAM?

I am assuming

5GB + 512MB(virtual)+ 512MB(physical)+2GB OS

Lifesontheline · Jul 28, 2013

Gskyace said:
Eurogamer is still wrong about it.
The flexible memory used to be 1 GiB virtual and 512MiB physical.
Now is 512 MiB virtual and 512MiB physical.

The physical flexible memory is unchanged.
And 1GiB virtual memory has been changed long ago.

What SCE and Eurogamer said has already been sadi yesterday by o_sharp

http://bbs.a9vg.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=3546905&page=9&authorid=483741

sounds like a headache hope it's not true.

bronzeP · Jul 28, 2013

now its getting interesting again here!

Melchiah · Jul 28, 2013

RadarScope1 said:
So is this whole RAM episode now the biggest-ever carnival of stupid in GAF history. I've only been around since 2007 or so, but this has to come close....

Fanboys are desperate in finding fault wherever they can find, whether it's true or not. I imagine there'll be a plenty of the same coming during the following years.

cchum · Jul 28, 2013

Gskyace said:
Eurogamer is still wrong about it.
The flexible memory used to be 1 GiB virtual and 512MiB physical.
Now is 512 MiB virtual and 512MiB physical.

The physical flexible memory is unchanged.
And 1GiB virtual memory has been changed long ago.

What SCE and Eurogamer said has already been sadi yesterday by o_sharp

http://bbs.a9vg.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=3546905&page=9&authorid=483741

+1 This design is roughly follows the xbox 360's design, however, underestimate the mark cerny so wrong. You give ps4 map direct memory, I can have control very much, that guy set up many ways to take advantage of bandwidth.

Even the chinese love Cerny. Don't underestimate the Cerny

Neuromancer · Jul 28, 2013

RAMageddon continues

I2amza · Jul 28, 2013

So is it time to patch the tubs back yet? I remember lots of broken tubs yesterday.

Callibretto · Jul 28, 2013

can someone knowledgeable give more insight about the flexible memory?

Sony said

""Flexible Memory" is memory managed by the PS4 OS on the game's behalf, and allows games to use some very nice FreeBSD virtual memory functionality. However this memory is 100 per cent the game's memory, and is never used by the OS, and as it is the game's memory it should be easy for every developer to use it."

what's FreeBSD virtual memory functionality? advantages, disadvantages, why have it be flexible at all etc. this is the first time I heard about 'flexible memory'

kaching · Jul 28, 2013

googleplex said:
It actually sounds like the current OS with all of its advertised functions takes up 1.5 gigs of ram and Sony is reserving an additional 512 megabytes for future use.

imokwiththis.gif

Gskyace · Jul 28, 2013

cchum said:
Even the chinese love Cerny. Don't underestimate the Cerny

I just said what I've discussed with o_sharp, and later told him to post onto A9VG directly.

Anyway, Mark Cerny is great. Why don't like him? : D
At least very friendly.

Pwn · Jul 28, 2013

If Virtual Memory is considered as available memory,

then we should admit Xbox One also has MORE THAN 5GiB memories available for Games.

i-Lo · Jul 28, 2013

I2amza said:
So is it time to patch the tubs back yet? I remember lots of broken tubs yesterday.

Time for repost:

Wynnebeck · Jul 28, 2013

i-Lo said:
Time for repost:

lol We need a gif showing someone fixing a tub and Cerny smiling again.

BleachAndPepsi · Jul 28, 2013

i-Lo said:
Time for repost:

Still just a fuckton of win.

phosphor112 · Jul 28, 2013

Dennis said:
Its funny seeing all the junior alt accounts that get activated by these threads.

You can just imagine the scene at astroturfing headquarters:

"All hands on deck, all hands on deck, Code Red, Code Red!"

I'm still trying to catch up, but I always thought accounts had to activated/approved.

Suikoguy · Jul 28, 2013

kaching said:
imokwiththis.gif

Seriously,

I was not ok with 3.5/3, it's seems too overcautious.

bishoptl · Jul 28, 2013

Gskyace said:
Eurogamer is still wrong about it.
The flexible memory used to be 1 GiB virtual and 512MiB physical.
Now is 512 MiB virtual and 512MiB physical.

The physical flexible memory is unchanged.
And 1GiB virtual memory has been changed long ago.

What SCE and Eurogamer said has already been said yesterday by o_sharp

http://bbs.a9vg.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=3546905&page=9&authorid=483741

Check your PMs, please.

Y2Kev · Jul 28, 2013

Mark Cerny needs a restraining order against you people.

I2amza · Jul 28, 2013

i-Lo said:
Time for repost:

Ok. This gif is freaking golden.

sleeping_dragon · Jul 28, 2013

This thread does not change the fact that the PS4 still has 8GB of GDDR5 and the XBox1 has 8GB of shitty ram.

Filthy Blood Junkie · Jul 28, 2013

phosphor112 said:
I'm still trying to catch up, but I always thought accounts had to activated/approved.

Yes you are right. It took me over two months to be approved.

flying dutchman · Jul 28, 2013

I do have to laugh. For ever and a day developers cry for as much RAM as possible. The more the better. So Sony in a bid to give developers what they want expand the memory from 4 to 8 gig and take all the praise for giving so much RAM to developers. But then they reserve 3 gig of that for the os. So what the hell were they going to do when they had 4 gig? Give developers 1 gig of RAM. Either this is BS or Sony are stupid.

ReturnOfTheRAT · Jul 28, 2013

i-Lo said:
Time for repost:

WHAT

jayu26 · Jul 28, 2013

bishoptl said:
Check your PMs, please.

Well...

Gskyace · Jul 28, 2013

Cidd said:
A wild Gskyace appears.

Spill it...

... he has already said that PS4 has 5GB RAM for gaming months ago.
Well, I remember what he said was posted before in NeoGaf, when I wasn't a member at that time.

Takuya · Jul 28, 2013

bishoptl said:
Check your PMs, please.

Was waiting for Bish to come, hehe

CambriaRising · Jul 28, 2013

Y2Kev said:
Mark Cerny needs a restraining order against you people.

A piece of paper could never come between our love.

Wynnebeck · Jul 28, 2013

Filthy Blood Junkie said:
Yes you are right. It took me over two months to be approved.

lol You lucky juniors. It took me about 8 months before I got approved.

RoboPlato · Jul 28, 2013

Wynnebeck said:
lol You lucky juniors. It took me about 8 months before I got approved.

Same here. It was so long ago now...

KidBeta · Jul 28, 2013

Callibretto said:
can someone knowledgeable give more insight about the flexible memory?

Sony said

""Flexible Memory" is memory managed by the PS4 OS on the game's behalf, and allows games to use some very nice FreeBSD virtual memory functionality. However this memory is 100 per cent the game's memory, and is never used by the OS, and as it is the game's memory it should be easy for every developer to use it."

what's FreeBSD virtual memory functionality? advantages, disadvantages, why have it be flexible at all etc. this is the first time I heard about 'flexible memory'

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_memory

Pretty much a virtual memory address maps to a physical page either in memory or on the disk.

CouldBeWorse · Jul 28, 2013

These thread title changes are awful. I hate the heavy-handed nature of it. I would prefer to leave the thread titles alone.

Spongebob · Jul 28, 2013

Wynnebeck said:
lol You lucky juniors. It took me about 8 months before I got approved.

Took me only 2 days, lol.

bronzeP · Jul 28, 2013

Takuya said:
Was waiting for Bish to come, hehe

Why? Whats wrong?

Takuya · Jul 28, 2013

bronzeP said:
Why? Whats wrong?

You can't go claiming you have inside knowledge, or pretending to know facts like he stated without proof.

jayu26 · Jul 28, 2013

bronzeP said:
Why? Whats wrong?

You will find out soon enough.

Edit: it is like Takuya said.

Aquamarine · Jul 28, 2013

bishoptl said:
Check your PMs, please.

Bish, you wonderful administrator, you. :-D

Shearie · Jul 28, 2013

Who knew RAM without Daft Punk would be so exciting?!

Wynnebeck · Jul 28, 2013

jayu26 said:
You will find out soon enough.

Edit: it is like Takuya said.

LOL That sounds so foreboding.

Joe Shlabotnik · Jul 28, 2013

CouldBeWorse said:
These thread title changes are awful. I hate the heavy-handed nature of it. I would prefer to leave the thread titles alone.

They're the titles these threads deserve.

bronzeP · Jul 28, 2013

Takuya said:
You can't go claiming you have inside knowledge, or pretending to know facts like he stated without proof.

so it's going to be grey or not grey in a few...understood ^^

androvsky · Jul 28, 2013

I think he was just relaying the translated post from o_sharp...

Aquamarine · Jul 28, 2013

bronzeP said:
Why? Whats wrong?

As a general rule...if he gets banned, he's full of nonsense.

Fracas · Jul 28, 2013

So we're looking at 6gb RAM for games now? I saw some guys on Twitter talking about this thread and saying that.

BleachAndPepsi · Jul 28, 2013

Wynnebeck said:
lol You lucky juniors. It took me about 8 months before I got approved.

Oh yeah? Well I was approved maybe a week ago and I applied the same day the Wright brothers took flight in Kitty Hawk in nineteen aught three. Soared like a bird those boys did. Brought a tear to my nutsack.

Anyway, on topic, have we had any further confirmation besides thuway and the gentleman who developed RCR?

jayu26 · Jul 28, 2013

Wynnebeck said:
LOL That sounds so foreboding.

Hey he could be legit.

RoboPlato · Jul 28, 2013

BleachAndPepsi said:
Oh yeah? Well I was approved maybe a week ago and I applied the same day the Wright brothers took flight in Kitty Hawk in nineteen aught three. Soared like a bird those boys did. Brought a tear to my nutsack.

Anyway, on topic, have we had any further confirmation besides thuway and the gentleman who developed RCR?

BruceLeeRoy and Kagari backed up Thuway.

Latvian Hitman · Jul 28, 2013

bishoptl said:
Check your PMs, please.

Gskyace · Jul 28, 2013

Spongebob said:
Took me only 2 days, lol.

That's fast...
When I was in uni, the usyd mail was denied after 6 months I remember.
So it's a long journey for me to join in... After I got a job.

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