If Capcom just came out and said they had a partnership with Nintendo, then it would stifle all talks of a Vita MH. It doesn't help them that whatever deal they had was back alley and now MH is Nintendo exclusive.
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Capcom: "We've got no plans for PS Vita Monster Hunter at the moment"
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If Capcom just came out and said they had a partnership with Nintendo, then it would stifle all talks of a Vita MH. It doesn't help them that whatever deal they had was back alley and now MH is Nintendo exclusive.
megabytecr
Member
Where is the pic of the Vita outside the window ala Wii U.
Ah, didn't notice how low res the graph was. Hiding a lot of trends, but it will be interesting to see the difference Pokemon, Zelda and Yoshi does.
It'd be easier still if Capcom just came out and said 'Fuck the Vita'. For one reason or another, they wouldn't shag the platform with a stolen cock.
Magicpaint
Member
Well technically the mainline series is what has moved to the 3DS, we don't know what has happened with the Portable series. Last gen there was a clear differentiation with the branding where the mainline titles were on consoles and the portable series were on the PSP. This gen everything is now muddled up with even a Portable game going to the PS3 and the mainline series being established on a Portable (which one could argue completely negates the Portable branding). So I guess the branding holds no value anymore, but you never know. Capcom can still find a way to bring a MH with the 'Portable' moniker to the Vita, especially if the "MH-clones" do reasonably well. You can never say never with Capcom.
How does that affect Capcom? It would make no difference to Capcom if they disclosed their partnership.
Well it's not like Capcom really makes anything good outside of their fighters, Ace Attorney, and Monster Hunter.
Glass Rebel
Member
But they did? Did you miss the Revelations HD announcement?
Eh, I guess. I'm still gonna say never though.
I would single-handedly fund Auto Modellista Vita and Powerstone Vita if I could.
The message is loud 'n' clear, no doubt.
That was definitely felt like a kick to the groins. Especially when they came out and tried to explain their reasoning that it would be out on everything but the vita. Capcom, I am so disappoint.
FreedomFighter
Member
Obviously not LTD, lol, but it did outsell the DS in 2011 I believe YTD in Japan.
EDIT: Beaten
Looking at Capcom and the PSP you can tell they were eyeing the DS and going, "Nope, MH can't run on this, sigh."
Besides a couple of early attempts (and the largest releases on the system by far with MH) Capcom was basically all in on the DS after the first year or so of competition. Never even bothered with RE
SP, pretty much only released MHP versions after MHX and Powered Up and a few other early ports bombed, though UGnG was a nice surprise (Even that was what, a 2006 game?)
Besides a couple of early attempts (and the largest releases on the system by far with MH) Capcom was basically all in on the DS after the first year or so of competition. Never even bothered with RE
SP, pretty much only released MHP versions after MHX and Powered Up and a few other early ports bombed, though UGnG was a nice surprise (Even that was what, a 2006 game?)Oh PS2-era Capcom, how I miss thee.
Waylon Drums
Member
I've just kind of assumed that the second version of MH 4 would be a Vita release. I just can't imagine them not releasing on any other platforms in the future.
ramoisdead
Member
Well no surprise there. 3DS is selling and Vita isn't. At least Vita has Soul Sacrifice.
Not seeing what this has anything to do with?
Magicpaint
Member
It's not entirely unreasonable to say never, but Capcom is still Capcom. They'll do what they can to squeeze out some extra bucks. I mean who expected MHP3rd HD edition?
3DS was a clear anointed generation champion in Japan ala the PS2 and since this platform is :
a: Portable
b: Powerful enough to run MH.
c: Going to have a huge install base by the time MH4 was going to come out.
it was clear that Capcom was going to go to the 3DS.
Why be a big fish in a small pond when you can be a bigger fish in an ocean.
FreedomFighter
Member
Well, of course we'll get an HD port of the G/Ultimate expansion on Wii U.
ambientmystic
Member
It was the peak for them (their home console output has never been more diversified since then) and many other Japanese 3rd parties.
It was also the era of countless A and B JRPGs series (FF, DQ, Shadow Hearts, Front Mission, KH, Rogue Galaxy, Suikoden, Wild Arms, Xenosaga, Dark Cloud, Dot Hack etc), 3rd person action games (DMC, Onimusha, Yakuza, Zone of the Enders), classic survival horror games (Fatal Frame, classic Silent Hill 2,3,4) and hack and slash games. Life was good in the 3rd person perspective.
Western pubs were only known for generic yearly sports franchises (FIFA, Madden etc), platformers (Insomniac) and shooters (Medal of Honor etc) back then. They were thankfully less influential back then in determining the general gaming trends.
Unfotunately, they hold all the cards in this gen leading up to the next gen (COD 4 led the charge for better or worse), and lead the homogenization of every fucking genre into the 1st person perspective or a shooter.
Magicpaint
Member
I still want to know what the hell happened to my beloved Onimusha series.
The only thing is that none of this was in stone when the 3DS was first released and had poor sales leading up into Xmas of 2011 when the Trinity hit. So none of those points really have any basis anyway seeing as how a MH was already planned for the 3DS beforehand and then MH4 was announced that same year at TGS.
MH4 3DS would sell at least 3 mil in Japan (being very conservative)... VITA has 1.5 mil user base in Japan right now and won't reach 3 mil by the end of this year. A MH on VITA wouldn't do "great numbers" and there will be an insane difference.
All the other FPSes are better than COD too.
we'll know when Sony reports earning next month. It's likely between 4-5 mil. For comparison, 3DS is over 30 mil.
I dont see why Capcom would ever come out and just plainly say "Yeah, we aren't fucking with the Vita". There is no upside to that for them.
Right now they get to do their exclusive handheld strategy with the 3DS, and their actions tell their intentions loud and clear. May as well not verbally sever the ties though. You never know what could happen. The gen we just came out of had the 360 catch the Wii in the U.S., (That seemed like it would be impossible earlier in the gen) it also had the Wii be incredibly successful despite by far having the least attractive software lineup.
We saw a 2 screened handheld that was thought to be a horrible idea sell 150m units and Halo dethroned as the most popular FPS. I mean, I didn't see any of that shit coming, so who knows whats in store for the Vita. I would say that it coming back is unlikely, but not impossible.
I have seen weirder, and recently.
Right now they get to do their exclusive handheld strategy with the 3DS, and their actions tell their intentions loud and clear. May as well not verbally sever the ties though. You never know what could happen. The gen we just came out of had the 360 catch the Wii in the U.S., (That seemed like it would be impossible earlier in the gen) it also had the Wii be incredibly successful despite by far having the least attractive software lineup.
We saw a 2 screened handheld that was thought to be a horrible idea sell 150m units and Halo dethroned as the most popular FPS. I mean, I didn't see any of that shit coming, so who knows whats in store for the Vita. I would say that it coming back is unlikely, but not impossible.
I have seen weirder, and recently.
FreedomFighter
Member
Last gen was pretty crazy. Don't know if we'll ever have a gen like that again.
Napalm_Frank
Member
Always online DRM, Wii U bombing and Mark Cerny yearning for spotlight.
We are off to a good, surprising start and things will only get crazier
Why does it have to sell that much? Would a potential MH4 Vita version need to sell 3 million for them to justify it? Would a number under 3 million not be considered "great numbers"?
They set themselves targets, "great numbers" to capcom would be going over that target. I wouldn't be surprised if capcom expect it to go 4.5-5M
ShockingAlberto
Member
I mean, that's not 100% fair.
The really strange deal they made with Sony on Street Fighter x Tekken probably did a lot to harm that game's console versions in the long run. That was to give the platform a push up from underneath from all appearances.
ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
After budget releases and whatnot, that sounds about right. Tri G is still trucking along and is close to clearing 2 million copies sold, and they'd expect MH4 to do a lot better than that.
But the main reason they don't release a Vita version is because it's detrimental to the franchise to split the userbase. MH, and its clones, grew out of local multiplayer and it's a huge part of their marketing campaigns. Anything that dilutes that wouldn't make any sense, hence why games that were put on Vita and PSP were quickly made to be cross-platform compatible in local wireless play.
metalslimer
Member
And some (deluded) people will somehow hold out hope that they are not being truthful. Can't wait for Dragon Quest 9 PSP
KojiKnight
Member
Signs your system are doing bad:
Not getting a port of a game that somehow landed on the Wii U.
Not getting a port of a game that somehow landed on the Wii U.
metalslimer
Member
That's more of a sign of Capcom having some kind of deal with Nintendo. MH3U didn't end up on PS3 either.
I guess every system is doing terribly since Lego City Undercover somehow landed on the Wii U.
metalslimer
Member
This makes 0 sense since Lego City is a first party game.
Oops, didn't realize that. Replace it with Dragon Quest X then. Or heck, every system other than Wii U and 3DS is doing terribly because MH3U/MH4 isn't on any other system.
Nintendo threw money at Capcom for that. You're crazy to believe otherwise.
nailbombxx
Member
Capcom are in the business of doing whatever will make them the most profit for the littlest effort.
There's no point for Capcom to make a Monster Hunter on the Vita considering they will have to develop it more than the 3DS games, and do lots of advertisements, regardless of how much better it would be than the 3DS games.
ie. fuck Capcom.
There's no point for Capcom to make a Monster Hunter on the Vita considering they will have to develop it more than the 3DS games, and do lots of advertisements, regardless of how much better it would be than the 3DS games.
ie. fuck Capcom.
metalslimer
Member
Hahaha
jeremy1456
Junior Member
I bet that Capcom wanted to port it to a home console but Nintendo wouldn't allow it to cross play with anything other than their console.
I highly doubt any money was involved at all.
Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
They wouldn't "have to develop it more" as there are plenty Vita games that look like they could be done on PSP, including MonHun clones like Toukiden and God Eater 2 (which in fact also are on PSP) and especially considering Capcom hasn't shied away from not fully utilizing systems before what with MonHun P3rd HD ver. on PS3, MonHun 3U HD ver. on Wii U, E.X. Troopers on PS3, Revelations Unveiled on every system except Vita, Sengoku Basara 3 on PS3, etc, all with minor improvements over the original versions. Plus, they obviously do lots of advertisements for 3DS MonHuns. So clearly there are more reasons than you want to believe.
And that ain't happening...MH4 is going to explode!!
nailbombxx
Member
I meant if they did a Vita version of Monster Hunter 4 or a Vita exclusive, they would have to make higher resolution textures and models than what they would for the 3DS. Would they not have to do extra advertising for a Vita Monster Hunter to sell more systems?
Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
I know what you meant, hence what I said. Ie, what you meant isn't true.
Nothing would force them to do that as nothing forced them and other companies to do that in my examples where they released low end graphics games on higher end platforms.
They could CHOOSE to do that, not HAVE to do that. They will choose to develop Monster Hunter in that way on another platform when it seems that it will be possible for it to pay off, not just to please you.
scytheavatar
Member
What makes you think they have a partnership with Nintendo? All they need to do is to look at the sales figures of current Vita games to know that it's a waste of time and money to make a MH for the Vita. Do you seriously think Capcom will be impressed by the 160K that Soul Sacrifice sold?
Sammy Samusu
Member
I doubt Nintendo paid for a 3DS port.
Resident Evil always hit Nintendo platforms in one way or another, and pretty much all of them sell well.