InvincibleAgent
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The others being The Pit and Avalanche?
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Halo 4 - Valhalla reborn as Ragnarok
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The others being The Pit and Avalanche?
Garrett 2U
Member
Mechs were in Halo Wars, you didn't miss anything, they weren't in any of the shooters.
I was hoping the Mantis would be more agile, less powerful.
Oh well, still going to be fun!
JimboJones
Member
Good, I loved spoiling a warthog gunners/banshee pilots cheap killing fun.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
Yes.
Yes, it is.
The animation is just perfect. I could watch that GIF all day. Haha.
Randolph Freelander
Member
Last Resort and Construct. I don't recall Avalanche, was that perhaps DLC or something big team? I pretty much stayed on Social Slayer with some very brief dabblings in ranked team matches.
Ah, always meant to circle around and play that one, never got around to it.
Hypertrooper
Member
Did you play Reach?
BassForever
Member
Wait Halo 4 has rideable mechs in multiplayer?
Remember the DMR is in again and it has A LOT better range than the BR, Coag would be death in this game.
Also this
Wasn't Valhalla the replacement for Coagulation? I always thought Valhalla was a better map due to terrain
JimboJones
Member
Indeed, honestly I'm kinda sick playing hemorrhage these days lol. Will be nice to go back to Valhalla, it's a great map.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
I really want a remake of Sandtrap.
The Pit should come as DLC, it would be perfect (resize it if needed, I want that map)
I also liked Sandtrap.. oh well, perhaps we will see a remake in Halo5
Too early to rant but hey:
The Mantis is too powerful in every aspect...
-LoS. The cockpit is pretty high so you have a better shooting angle than every other (non-flying) vehicle. You can still move uphill and shoot anyone easily, unlike the scorpion/wraith
-Turning speed seems really adequate. At least better than any tank
-Same thing for movement
-Rocket pod + machine gun with only 1 driver
-Can't be flipped over
-Hardest vehicle on the game to assault. It has enough acceleration to run on a pinch and shoot you back, it can stomp you, and it has a really small deadzone (3 metre radius?)
Compare those defence mechanisms to a those of a scorpion. Not enough acceleration and canon turning speed to kill someone behind you without them crawling on you first. No stomp. Big dead zone around the tank where you can't shoot anyone.
It does look fun to pilot though
I also liked Sandtrap.. oh well, perhaps we will see a remake in Halo5
Too early to rant but hey:
The Mantis is too powerful in every aspect...
-LoS. The cockpit is pretty high so you have a better shooting angle than every other (non-flying) vehicle. You can still move uphill and shoot anyone easily, unlike the scorpion/wraith
-Turning speed seems really adequate. At least better than any tank
-Same thing for movement
-Rocket pod + machine gun with only 1 driver
-Can't be flipped over
-Hardest vehicle on the game to assault. It has enough acceleration to run on a pinch and shoot you back, it can stomp you, and it has a really small deadzone (3 metre radius?)
Compare those defence mechanisms to a those of a scorpion. Not enough acceleration and canon turning speed to kill someone behind you without them crawling on you first. No stomp. Big dead zone around the tank where you can't shoot anyone.
It does look fun to pilot though
GarthVaderUK
Banned
From the HaloGAF thread:
Worth bearing in mind that you can put Plasma Pistols in your Loadouts, and the Mantis is going to be pretty hard to miss due to its size.
Frankie said:
Worth bearing in mind that you can put Plasma Pistols in your Loadouts, and the Mantis is going to be pretty hard to miss due to its size.
JimboJones
Member
Do the plasma pistols still have that mild lock on when charged?
show me your skeleton
Member
don't worry, they haven't shown the forerunner tank yet, which pretty much equals out the playing field again.
AdmiralSnackbar
Member
Bungie's vision for Halo 2 will finally be realized!
map looks a little oversturated and washed out for my liking, but those rocks look amazing. i loved Valhalla, super excited to see it return. i'm a bit uneasy about the mech - sure its cool and bad ass, but definitely looks too bad ass.
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Not completely sold on the mech, but will wait to play it before forming any opinions.
As long as it's as good as Reach, I'm good with that. I know a lot of people loved the water in Halo 3, as did I, but the physics were a bit....too exaggerated for realistic water properties. Sometimes it looked right, but other times it looked like jello. Wish I had access to my fileshare from Halo 3 so I could post some good examples of the physics not working in the game's favor.
great, thanks for the quote, it being OP was one of my worries.
As long as it's as good as Reach, I'm good with that. I know a lot of people loved the water in Halo 3, as did I, but the physics were a bit....too exaggerated for realistic water properties. Sometimes it looked right, but other times it looked like jello. Wish I had access to my fileshare from Halo 3 so I could post some good examples of the physics not working in the game's favor.
great, thanks for the quote, it being OP was one of my worries.
BigTnaples
Todd Howard's Secret GAF Account
As others have said, it wont be the same without Halo 3's excellent water physics.
I can pretty much guarantee that Halo 4 wont have them, as compromises had to be made somewhere to achieve the visuals. Even Reach did away with the great water to make room for other improvements. It's a real shame.
Maybe we will see awesome water again in Halo 5 on 720?
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All that said, awesome trailer(aside from music), awesome map, awesome mech.
I can pretty much guarantee that Halo 4 wont have them, as compromises had to be made somewhere to achieve the visuals. Even Reach did away with the great water to make room for other improvements. It's a real shame.
Maybe we will see awesome water again in Halo 5 on 720?
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All that said, awesome trailer(aside from music), awesome map, awesome mech.
higherARC05
Banned
I wonder because in the single player you can see the water act like HALO 3s. Maybe for mp its to keep fps high?
show me your skeleton
Member
or the war sphinx
or the flimmity-flam! god this game is crazy.
No forge world in this game, it will be 3 separate maps.
popsicle_sundays
Member
This game looks fucking incredible, is it just me or is it a lot better looking than Reach? I haven't touched Reach in a long time so correct me if I'm wrong.
Really excited for this, the last Halo game I enjoyed a lot was 3.
Really excited for this, the last Halo game I enjoyed a lot was 3.
Diablohead
Member
I think that mech fits the halo universe rather well, long as we don't see tons of them or bigger gundamn styled ones, i'm cool with it.
I mean we have covenant tech like floating banshees and anti gravity sniper nests, nothing wrong with human mechanical tech being at mech level.
Reach looked good at release but since then something has happened, so many games are finding more polygons, it's like the leap we had visually back in 2009-ish where games suddenly took a turn and found that extra power.
There is some huge differences I can see from screenshot comparisons alone, the rocks are completely redone and look so much better, the bases are bigger too, if you change the layout you end up with a new map.
I mean we have covenant tech like floating banshees and anti gravity sniper nests, nothing wrong with human mechanical tech being at mech level.
Reach looked good at release but since then something has happened, so many games are finding more polygons, it's like the leap we had visually back in 2009-ish where games suddenly took a turn and found that extra power.
There is some huge differences I can see from screenshot comparisons alone, the rocks are completely redone and look so much better, the bases are bigger too, if you change the layout you end up with a new map.
Monocle
Member
I hope they're huge.
buddha0991
Member
Spawn with a plasma pistol, pop the sucker, bingo.
They don't need to be anywhere near Forge World huge though.
Monocle
Member
Yeah, but still.
Actually, a greatly increased item budget would probably be better than a whole bunch of extra space. I hope 343 has optimized enough thingamajigs to make that happen. I used to hit the limit rather quickly in Forge World.
Silly.Mikey
Banned
Excellent, now for the next week instead of getting COD Halo comments, we'll get Metal Gear Halo comments. Excellent.
Looks awesome.
Looks awesome.
BigTnaples
Todd Howard's Secret GAF Account
Good thing there seems to be no giant robots in Halo 4 then right?
You're nuts. When I walk through water, I want a 3 feet high wave that propagates 7 feet. When I shoot bullets, I want a giant splash. Armour needs to be buoyant instead of acting like a suit that's a metric ton with low surface area.
Then again, I also want to move as fast through water as I can in air.
ಠ_ಠ
Seems like a weird choice, but hard to say without actually playing it.
I loved Valhalla and like it's inclusion here; looks fantastic, only thing that is bumming me out is that I really liked the lush greeness of the map. Here it looks like it's a lot of grass and sand patches, aesthetically it's just a bit of a bummer for me personally. Everything else looks great though.
I loved Valhalla and like it's inclusion here; looks fantastic, only thing that is bumming me out is that I really liked the lush greeness of the map. Here it looks like it's a lot of grass and sand patches, aesthetically it's just a bit of a bummer for me personally. Everything else looks great though.
Also hate small to medium sized robots as well, there all just an awful concept.
Silly.Mikey
Banned
They still have to sell dlc.