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LawBreakers |OT| Zero G, With Cliffy B
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Lawbreakers had a 24 peak of around 3,000 players. While it's not impossible for those numbers to grow it isn't the type of numbers I imagine the developers wanted to see at launch.
Even it's highest peak player count was around 7,500 during one of the betas which also isn't that great.
They can keep sustained growth with proper support.
Dead Prince
Banned
wom but the learning curve of the game may be off putting for some. but it's tons of fun still. hopefully people still find their way getting this game.
Doesn't stop CSGO and Quake Champions is probably going to do a lot better while requiring a lot more mechanical skill.
Also, fighting games like Tekken and SFV did better launch numbers on Steam.
Chronospherics
Member
Well, we'll just see how many people buy it, but with MT driven games, if the model works your game can survive with a surprisingly small number of uses.
I bet even now, there are people on Lawbreakers that have spent more than £100 on lootboxes. If you actually sure the figures from some of these MT driven games.
With that said, it's also why I said they should have promoted the game on console. Titanfall's console version outperformed the PC version more than five fold. There's huge overlap between the Titanfall and Lawbreakers communities, and yet Boss Key treat console players as second class consumers.
The PC version simply shouldn't be the only one that's working properly at launch. They had one piece of hardware to work with (the PS4, two if they wanted PRO support) and relative to tackling the technical issues that come with the myriad of hardware configurations across PCs, getting this game running on a PRO should have been a given.
How long till the console reviews come in and start talking about the broken framerate/stuttering? That bad press is going to be embedded into the games reviews for years to come, if they don't fix the console versions of the game soon (within the next week or so), this game is going to be dead to at least half of their potential userbase.
I think the PC numbers are fine. If there's any concern, it's whether this PS4 launch is ever going to take off. At the moment most of my friends just aren't playing the game, or buying it, because of the issues its facing. They had this month as their launch window, and if Destiny 2 gets much closer this game is going to be gone from their minds.
Why do you think those games will have more mechanical skill? Movement here is faster than quake, if movement makes accuracy more difficult (logically it does) then there's more room for mechanical skill to influence the level of play in this game. In the end I think it's a silly argument, there's endless room for mechanical skill to influence the level of play in all 3 of those games, all of them reward fine accuracy.
Also, quake champions and cs:go aren't on console.
Dead Prince
Banned
Under tutorial there's a sandbox mode. Unsure what that is exactly.
Fahzgoolin
Banned
Pretty helpful review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvGlFo0RoCk
Game looks fantastic. Gonna bite.
Game looks fantastic. Gonna bite.
It's incredibly good.
SublimeO12
Neo Member
https://twitter.com/BossKey/status/894921646997479424
Hey guys just wanted to pop in and say we're busting ass right now to fix the PS4 hitch. It looks like a bug snuck in after beta, we're trying to get a hotfix out ASAP.
Hey guys just wanted to pop in and say we're busting ass right now to fix the PS4 hitch. It looks like a bug snuck in after beta, we're trying to get a hotfix out ASAP.
Brian_FETO
Banned
Appreciate the hard work! Cheers to the team
Broadbandito
Member
baller
EL CUCO
Member
Thanks for the communication and hard work.
Very nice!
MastAndo
Member
Oh, that's good news. I was reading a review from Hardcore Gamer earlier that said this;
"This isnt the only sacrifice that the PS4 version makes. A game like this, where movement can change based on whether or not the player is inside a zero gravity space and based on the abilities the character class has, requires quite a bit of practice to pull off some of the more skillful maneuvers that will earn the edge. The PC version does pack in a sandbox mode for precisely this reason, allowing the player to practice, while Sonys console is left by the wayside."
CommandThrower
Member
I won't really be able to dig into this until the weekend....so jealous of you folks right now!
Same, bought but can't touch it
Not on PS4 for myself, but appreciate the communication! So thanks for the update and thanks for a really fun game.
I don't know. I'm used to much longer queues while playing games massively more succesful than this one. Like Wow, Dota 2 and For Honor. It always surprises me how fast matchmaking people are used to. Would be nice if we could open stashes while queueing though.
Dead Prince
Banned
i'll put in the many hours for all the hours you won't play yet.
at least my grade right now is higher than Beta. still haven't gotten S+ yet. just S.
orichalcos
Member
Nice!
InfiniteUnrest
Member
CS:GO is on XB360 and PS3.
Chronospherics
Member
And so is TF2 but that version isn't the same as the one that people are playing today. It hasn't been supported for years.
At the time I meant that Lawbreakers has a chance to sell on console, without competition from those games listed. Very few console players are going to hook up their PS3 to play a legacy version of CS:GO, instead of playing Lawbreakers on their PS4.
The framestutter every 5 seconds... that's people changing roles?
GitarooMan
Member
Outside of the stutter I'm having a ball with this on PS4, I really like the map design. I didn't play any of the betas so I'm totally new to it. Looks great on PS4 Pro. Been playing the gunslinger, lot of fun. Still sort of running around a bit clueless, but starting to get a sense of what's going on. The big thing for me is I don't yet have a sense for the health packs/station locations which causes me issues.
TheCanisDirus
Member
I feel for those without a gaming PC and the desire to play LB. After trying it on PS4 and playing through all the closed Alpha's and Beta's on PC... the game is pretty damn different on PS4 and not in a good way. So pumped to get back in though. Love LB and i'm looking forward to how it involves in the next year or so.
Brian_FETO
Banned
The thread on twitter says it's people leaving/joining/changing roles/respawning (the worst culprit)
gunstarhero
Member
Where are the reviews?
DryvBy
Member
Same. I actually had fun this last beta. I've been in the alpha forever and everytime I played, I was bored after a match. This last beta was a much better representation.
VincentMatts
Member
Theyd have my money if it was on xbox.
Chronospherics
Member
Ah.
Mostly respawning then.
In the beta it had occasional frame stutters, and I would not be surprised if they were caused by people changing roles, as they do not change roles often. But now it occurs 50+ times per game. People certainly don't change role that many times, but they do tend to respawn a lot.
Until there's a fix, if people could refrain from dying so much, that would be awesome.
tru0ne
Neo Member
Haven't got a code yet also. I bought the ultimate edition and can't even play it on launch day, I think limited run said they will be sending out codes later this week and the physical copy will ship in September.
Fahzgoolin
Banned
Is this game as frustrating as Overwatch in solo queue?
Dead Prince
Banned
no. not really.
Snacks the sober sea lion
Member
Can't figure out whether to buy this game. Not sure about Nexon of any sort being involved in any way or how well the game is going to be able to sustain itself on PC.
Brian_FETO
Banned
Lawbreakers is much better than Overwatch in that regard
It is a hero game, and it's good to have a varied team, but success is not nearly as dependent on picking roles
Characters are balanced fairly well, you aren't going to really find yourself in situations where you're fucked solely because of your class. And if you're crushing you can absolutely carry your team to victory
You don't need a healer, you don't need anything. If you play well enough you can handle situations on your own. You'll run into things like people aren't playing objectives or guarding your base/goal but I don't think it's nearly as bad as the feeling of a "useless team" in Overwatch. I suppose the only downside in that case is matches are pretty long
grandwizard
Member
Smaller games like this make me really wish Steam didn't show player counts. It's completely capable to have a healthy and active playerbase with smaller 2k-3k numbers, lots of games on Steam do. But because of the visible numbers 90% of the conversation is going to be about it being 'dead on arrival' and 'dying'. I'm even contributing to it now, it's just annoying. I'd rather be talking about the game, which is awesome.
I ordered the CE too, and you might be incorrect on the shipment schedule. Product page says it will ship on 8/8 (today) or close to it. Also says we should get codes today, too. Hope so, I'm so excited to jump in.
grandwizard
Member
No, one of the best parts of LB is that you never feel like you are the wrong class to take a fight. There isn't hard counters like Overwatch where you'll get stunned and killed because you walked around a corner and ran into your hard counter. This makes solo way better because you don't really have to rely that much on your team composition. Getting kills is the most important thing, for everyone.
Brian_FETO
Banned
People also compare it to Overwatch as though it's anywhere near that scale
It's a small game made by a small new team, elevated by Cliff's name and pedigree
I have to imagine it's way closer to something like Killing Floor 2 than Overwatch lol
Hazardous Metal
Member
It's actually possible to solo carry games with little to no effort from the rest of your teammates in this game, so I'd say it isn't.
Demoskinos
Member
I think the game will be fine. FFS there are people still playing the DOOM multiplayer. Granted that probably got a bit of a surge due to the 6.66 update but even still it's surprising just how many people are playing it right now.
I'm sure Boss key will get this ironed our soon. The game is still at least *mostly* playable in the meantime.
I'm sure Boss key will get this ironed our soon. The game is still at least *mostly* playable in the meantime.
TimeEffect
Member
Does this game have SP? Because I imagine a lot of doom's success was on the hopes of a successful SP.
Brian_FETO
Banned
That's not what the poster was saying at all
The multiplayer was received largely negatively from the beta and launch. And people are still playing
Sales were absolutely due to the single player but that alone doesn't keep multiplayer active
Fahzgoolin
Banned
ebullientprism
Member
I was sort of interested but there is no demo to try and by the time they get to a free weekend this will almost certainly be dead with no community.
Limited time beta's make no sense when you are a new developer with a new franchise making a MP only game. If someone like me misses out on your limited time beta because of time issues, thats pretty much a lost sale. A demo really should be a priority in cases like these even if it takes significant development time.
Limited time beta's make no sense when you are a new developer with a new franchise making a MP only game. If someone like me misses out on your limited time beta because of time issues, thats pretty much a lost sale. A demo really should be a priority in cases like these even if it takes significant development time.
Dead Prince
Banned
how does one make a demo of a MP only game. other than trying to get into the alpha/beta.