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JustenP88
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(09-22-2017, 02:58 PM)

Originally Posted by Ocarina_117

Odd. Whenever I see PUBG I see a game I played over a year ago, H1Z1.

I thought those two and DayZ were all pretty much clones of each other
Callibretto
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(09-22-2017, 02:58 PM)
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Havent played pubg myself, but from reading the concept and impression from easy allies and various other video. It sound really cool.

If Konami/some other dev manage to make battle royal game with mgs v kind gameplay. I'd be all over it.
giancarlo123x
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(09-22-2017, 02:58 PM)
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Originally Posted by benicillin

Is this Bluehole's heel turn?

FelipeMGM
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(09-22-2017, 02:58 PM)
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EPIC rn

Rymuth
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(09-22-2017, 02:58 PM)
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Originally Posted by Maximo

Soooo they are annoyed an idea they copied is being copied after the idea they copied is becoming popular?

Zemm
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(09-22-2017, 02:58 PM)
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What did they expect? This happens all the time. Someone has a good idea, others try to imitate and maybe build on it.

I do feel that Epic using the PUGB name without permission probably isn't the best thing to do but everything else just seems like someone scared something better might come along.
Exploratory
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(09-22-2017, 02:58 PM)
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You guys realize the reason they're concerned is because Epic owns the Unreal Engine and is a partner with Bluehole right? It's not just some random team copying.
FyreWulff
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(09-22-2017, 02:58 PM)
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Ah yes because Bluehole invented the concept of Battle Royale
Turin Turambar
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(09-22-2017, 02:59 PM)
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He added, "We have also noticed that Epic Games references PUBG in the promotion of Fortnite to their community and in communications with the press. This was never discussed with us and we don't feel that it's right."

Oh noes, someone is mentioning our game!

Look, usually game companies don't mention the competitor's names because they want to avoid comparisons, or feel it's unneeded, or have another marketing strategy. Not because it's illegal or anything like that.

But it's perfectly ok to actually do it. If a game dev want to be honest and say "our game is kind of like Civilization, but with tactical battles and with more differentiated nations" is his marketing decision. Could be good, could be bad.
Brunire
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(09-22-2017, 02:59 PM)
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Originally Posted by benicillin

Is this Bluehole's heel turn?

It looks like they are right at that tipping point. Hopefully they decide to play it cool and concentrate on making their game bigger and better instead of worrying about the first of many copycats.
Mushroomer25
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(09-22-2017, 02:59 PM)
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For a game that rather shamelessly ripped a lot off from King of the Kill (which itself was not necessarily original) - it's seems insane that PUBG's team would think legal action is the right step here.
N.Grim
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(09-22-2017, 02:59 PM)
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PUBG is basically Arma 3 BR though
DrROBschiz
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(09-22-2017, 03:00 PM)
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Compete or die i guess?

There was no way they were gonna hold onto this forever
joecanada
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(09-22-2017, 03:00 PM)
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Originally Posted by Mesoian

Yurp.

Everyone's about to try and tackle the battle royale formula.

And worse pubg still runs pretty bad I have to play in short stints. A polished experience would likely eat into their userbase a bunch
Crazy Diamond
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(09-22-2017, 03:00 PM)
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These folks are greedy as hell man smh
Boke1879
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(09-22-2017, 03:00 PM)
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Originally Posted by Ahasverus

I smell a Wildlands expansion actually. It's gonna sell all the copies.

WIldlands is going to be perfect for this.
Yearsoflurking
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(09-22-2017, 03:00 PM)

Originally Posted by Boke1879

Just gonna give my thoughts like I did in the other thread.

They should have known this was coming. There are going to be MANY clones and straight up ripoffs. Especially on STEAM.

But them getting upset that they were referenced and contemplating action? I don't know. That's a bit overboard imo.

If roles were reversed. Everyone would rightfully be up in arms if Epic came out and said this shit.

Using another games name that you helped work on for your own success is overboard. Epic is too good of a company to be this creatively broke
The Technomancer
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(09-22-2017, 03:00 PM)
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Originally Posted by FyreWulff

Ah yes because Bluehole invented the concept of Battle Royale

I mean, they didn't, but as things stand right now Fortnite's Battle Royale mode is almost exactly PUBG in the Fortnite engine. UI and color choices, exact same structure etc. I don't think Bluehole has a legal case, but I hope for more from the Battlegrounds clones we're going to get
wapplew
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(09-22-2017, 03:00 PM)
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I'm more surprise by how quick Epic make a clone.
Shai-Tan
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(09-22-2017, 03:00 PM)

Originally Posted by Exile20

I think it stems from the similarities like

bus vs plane
lobby before the match

What others are there?

spawn drop off from a plane is not new, was in Battlefield and probably others I can't think off the top of my head ages ago
thumb
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(09-22-2017, 03:01 PM)
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Originally Posted by Zemm

What did they expect? This happens all the time. Someone has a good idea, others try to imitate and maybe build on it.

I do feel that Epic using the PUGB name without permission probably isn't the best thing to do but everything else just seems like someone scared something better might come along.

Why though? Should Nintendo and Konami be upset at the huge number of games that market themselves as "Metroidvanias"?
Exile20
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(09-22-2017, 03:01 PM)
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Originally Posted by Exploratory

You guys realize the reason they're concerned is because Epic owns the Unreal Engine and is a partner with Bluehole right? It's not just some random team copying.

What do you think Epic is going to do?
mullet2000
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(09-22-2017, 03:01 PM)
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I don't think that's an unreasonable statement from Bluehole, honestly. I thought it was a little weird how directly epic was referencing PUBG by name, too.
XandBosch
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(09-22-2017, 03:01 PM)
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As soon as a console game hits that mimics (and is as good as or better than) this before PUBG does, it'll be too late for them. They have to realize that it's only a matter of time lol.

Can't say I don't feel bad for them though, they brought something unique to a stale genre (IMO) and it's a huge hit, of course they'd want to keep it for their own.
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(09-22-2017, 03:01 PM)
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Originally Posted by giancarlo123x

Honestly, I don't get it. What the hell is their problem?

The cracks are beginning to show.
Unit 33
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(09-22-2017, 03:01 PM)
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Any day now Doom will sue everyone for stealing Deathmatch.
PeskyToaster
(09-22-2017, 03:01 PM)
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They should get used to see other Battle Royale modes by developers and publishers with a lot more resources and infrastructure behind them very quickly.
wwm0nkey
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(09-22-2017, 03:01 PM)
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Good thing Fortnites mode is very meh compared to PUBG, they don't have much to worry about IMO
alr1ght
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(09-22-2017, 03:01 PM)
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The new deathmatch mode
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(09-22-2017, 03:02 PM)
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Vyse The Legend
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(09-22-2017, 03:02 PM)
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Originally Posted by Joffy

Not exactly a surprise is it? The entire history of video games is built on borrowed / tweaked / refined ideas.

Epic has a track record of this, too. Gears basically took RE4's combat/style and just improved the cover system. That's it.
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(09-22-2017, 03:02 PM)
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Originally Posted by wwm0nkey

Good thing Fortnites mode is very meh compared to PUBG, they don't have much to worry about IMO

They actually will when it releases free to everyone soon and they update it with more content. This is just the beginning.
Danielsan
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(09-22-2017, 03:02 PM)
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This was always going to happen and I highly doubt this came as a surprise for them. There's no way of stopping other devs from running with your idea and trying to do it better. They should just be happy with their current success and try to stay ahead of the competition by investing their profits in improving the PUBG and rolling out to consoles (not just Xbox One) ASAP.
King_Moc
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(09-22-2017, 03:02 PM)
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Are they serious? I mean, they have to be joking right? Every fps game mode ever devised has been copied, why do these guys have a problem?
DealWithIt
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(09-22-2017, 03:02 PM)
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For everyone showing up to complain that PUBG is, itself, a ripoff, remember that the original battle royale mod was created by Brendan Greene the principal mind behind PUBG.
Amagon
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(09-22-2017, 03:02 PM)
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Now Bluehole, you are in a battle royale.
Dynomutt
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(09-22-2017, 03:02 PM)
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Sony Presents:

Uncharted: Moztezuma's Peak

"A race to the top battle royale game"
Boke1879
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(09-22-2017, 03:02 PM)
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Originally Posted by Turin Turambar

Oh noes, someone is mentioning our game!

Look, usually game companies don't mention the competitor's names because they want to avoid comparisons, or feel it's unneeded, or have another marketing strategy. Not because it's illegal or anything like that.

But it's perfectly ok to actually do it. If a game dev want to be honest and say "our game is kind of like Civilization, but with tactical battles and with more differentiated nations" is his marketing decision. Could be good, could be bad.

Shit I remember reading plenty of times games trying to associate themselves with the Souls craze.
Kinyou
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(09-22-2017, 03:03 PM)
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It sounds to me like bluehole is concerned because they have an active exchange with epic going on, using their engine.

Fortnite is also pretty shameless about being a copy. Copying game mechanics is nothing new, but here it feels like they took just every element straight from pubg. Like they could have done something different with the intro instead of just replacing the plane with a flying bus.
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Exile20
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(09-22-2017, 03:03 PM)
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Originally Posted by Shai-Tan

spawn drop off from a plane is not new, was in Battlefield and probably others I can't think off the top of my head ages ago

I mean within the BR world. BF doesn't have a BR mode.
mnannola
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(09-22-2017, 03:03 PM)

Originally Posted by Duffk1ng

PlayerUnknown helped develop that game IIRC. And the original ARMA mod.

But does Bluehole have any rights to these games? If not, then they are straight up ripping off other games.

Not really sure if Bluehole has a leg to stand on here.
Vital Tundra
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(09-22-2017, 03:03 PM)
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Get over it, people will copy your game, and hey will reference it directly just like devs have in the past with every other genre. Hell publishers use to literally do commercials smack talking each other's games of the same genre. EVERYONE was after Marios ass back in the day before they realized you can't beat the king.

But honestly be worried, because wants the AAA devs make their clone, you may very well have to be worried. Can't imagine how well an Ubisoft clone would do.

Your game is good, focus on fixing its issue and making it a better game. Everyone else is just around the corner with AAA polish to back them up.
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Jobbs
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(09-22-2017, 03:03 PM)
Bluehole should stfu. I mean, didn't they make an MMORPG that, despite having an actiony twist, is built on the foundation of those that came before it? Like WOW?

That's how gaming works. Maybe focus on making your game not be a laggy, janky, terribly optimized mess so you can compete with better developers as they bring more and more of their own battle royale games. And I hope Fortnite enjoys massive success on PS4 where players have no alternative
hawk2025
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(09-22-2017, 03:03 PM)
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The exact same sentiment would have happened otherwise: "They copied all of this and don't even mention PUBG".

These people are drunk with success. A bit of a shame.
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(09-22-2017, 03:03 PM)
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Originally Posted by Shai-Tan

spawn drop off from a plane is not new, was in Battlefield and probably others I can't think off the top of my head ages ago

Medal of Honor airborne.
Varvor
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(09-22-2017, 03:03 PM)
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Originally Posted by noomi

They should definitely be worried because Fortnite will be #1 on steam sales in no time.

PUBG DETHRONED

Fortnite is on steam now?
Shai-Tan
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(09-22-2017, 03:04 PM)

Originally Posted by Exploratory

You guys realize the reason they're concerned is because Epic owns the Unreal Engine and is a partner with Bluehole right? It's not just some random team copying.

How does the insinuation of copying from inside info work out considering the earlier games H1Z1 etc?
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(09-22-2017, 03:04 PM)
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Originally Posted by DXB-KNIGHT

[ig]https://frinkiac.com/img/S03E10/1263795.jpg[/img]

Simpsons really has done everything, haven't they?
arimanius
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(09-22-2017, 03:04 PM)
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Originally Posted by ashecitism

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/article...le-royale-mode

Mobius 1
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(09-22-2017, 03:04 PM)
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So they’re acting as if they invented the online FPS?

Their product may be popular, but it’s as derivative as the next and the one after that.

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