ccbfan said:

Like I said its not that bad.

If you look at the numbers the only major companies that blow the PSP numbers out of the water is Sega and Bandai.

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ccbfan said:

Sega is mostly based off of the love and berry game...

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Oshare Majo Love & Berry		Ryuta Kawashima Brain Training
Puyo Puyo				Initial D: Street Stage
Shiren the Wanderer
Mushi King: Greatest Champion
Sangokushi Taisen
Mushi King 2
Feel the Magic
Puyo Pop Fever
Bleach 2nd

ccbfan said:

...while Bandai mostly from Taiamgcuhi (no clue how to spell it) and jump superstars.

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ccbfan said:

Like I said its not like a game on the DS have a much better chance to succeed than a game on the PSP. (DS is better but not much better)

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schild said:

Guys, DS games don't make that much money The margins are pretty shitty. Please don't compare the UMD to it. It's just silly. Very, very few companies are getting 1 money hat off the DS let alone MANY money hats.

Now Wii vs PS3 is a different story. But then, if you're putting it out for the Wii, you might as well put it out on the PS2 also.

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1,398,449 Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker (Square Enix) (12/28/06) - through July 1/07
1,110,046 Tamagotchi no PuchiPuchi Omisecchi (Tamagotchi Connection: Corner Shop) (Bandai) (9/15/05) - through Dec 31/06
1,013,000 Final Fantasy III (Square Enix) (8/24/06) - rounded off through Apr 15/07 (MC)
978,611 Oshare Majo Love and Berry (DS Collection) (Sega) (11/22/06) - through July 1/07
780,711 Tamagotchi no Puchi Puchi Omisecchi Gohi-Kini (Tamagotchi Connection: Corner Shop 2) (Bandai) (7/27/06) - through July 1/07
593,852 Layton Kyouju no Fushigi na Machi (Professor Layton and the Curious Village) (Level 5) (2/15/07) - through July 8/07
570,662 Zaidan Houjin Nippon Kanji Nouryoku Kentei Kyoukai Kounin: KanKen DS (Rocket) (9/28/06) - through July 1/07
539,420 Zaidan Houjin Nippon Kanji Nouryoku Kentei Kyoukai Koushiki Soft: 200 Mannin no KanKen: Tokoton Kanji Nou (IE) (11/9/06) - through Sept 9/07
531,867 Ryuusei no RockMan: Pegasus / Dragon / Leo (Mega Man Star Force: Pegasus / Dragon / Leo) (Capcom) (12/14/06) - through July 1/07
512,703 Final Fantasy XII: Revenant Wings (Square Enix) (4/26/07) - through Aug 5/07
471,947 Gyakuten Saiban 4 (Capcom) (4/12/07) - through Aug 5/07
363,030 Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: Ring of Fates (Square Enix) (8/23/07) - through Sept 30/07
361,558 Itadaki Street DS (Square Enix) (6/21/07) - through Sept 9/07
357,654 Gyakuten Saiban:Yomigaeru Gyakuten (Phoenix Wright:Ace Attorney)(Capcom) (9/15/05)/(6/15/06) - thru Mar 4/07 (MC) / thru Sept 16/07
317,078 Dragon Ball Z: Bukuu Ressen (Dragon Ball Z: Supersonic Warriors 2) (Bandai) (12/1/05) - through Mar 11/07
308,786 Kotoba no Puzzle: Mojipittan DS (Namco) (3/15/07) - through July 1/07
293,970 Slime MoriMori: Dragon Quest 2 - Daisensha to Shippo Dan (Dragon Quest Heroes: Rocket Slime) (Square Enix) (12/1/05) - through Dec 31/06
281,083 Seiken Densetsu DS: Children of Mana (Children of Mana) (Square Enix) (3/2/06) - through Dec 31/06
276,964 Momotarou Dentetsu DS: Tokyo & Japan (Hudson) (4/26/07) - through July 22/07
276,186 Super Robot Taisen W (Banpresto) (3/1/07) - through July 1/07
250,580 Bokujou Monogatari: Kimi to Sodatsu Shima (Harvest Moon DS 2) (Marvelous) (2/1/07) - through July 1/07
244,401 Kageyama Method Dennou Hanpuku: Masu x Masu Hyaku Masu Keisan (Shogakukan) (12/7/06) - through July 1/07
233,483 SD Gundam G Generation: Cross Drive (Bandai) (8/9/07) - through Oct 7/07
226,674 Nounai Aesthe: IQ Suppli DS (Spike) (12/21/06) - through July 1/07
220,928 Naruto: Saikyou Ninja Daikesshuu 3 (Tomy) (4/21/05) - through Nov 12/06
217,986 Digimon Story (Digimon World DS) (Bandai) (6/15/06) - through Dec 31/06
209,119 Puyo Puyo! 15th Anniversary (Sega) (12/14/06) - through July 1/07
200,117 Heisei Kyouiku Iinkai DS (Namco) (12/21/06) - through July 1/07
196,073 Tales of the Tempest (Namco) (10/26/06) - through Mar 11/07
195,052 Fushigi no Dungeon: Fuurai no Shiren DS (Mysterious Dungeon: Shiren the Wanderer 3) (Sega) (12/14/06) - through July 1/07
191,388 Kouchuu Ouja Mushi King: Greatest Champion e no Michi DS (Sega) (12/8/05) - through Dec 31/06
185,757 Subarashiki Kono Sekai: It's a Wonderful World (Square Enix) (7/27/07) - through Oct 7/07
168,705 World Soccer Winning Eleven DS (Winning Eleven: Pro Evolution Soccer 2007) (Konami) (11/2/06) - through Mar 11/07
165,622 Digimon Story Sunburst / Moonlight (Digimon World: Dawn / Dusk) (Bandai) (3/29/07) - through July 1/07
164,484 Gyakuten Saiban 2 (Best Price!) (Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney Justice for All) (Capcom) (10/26/06) - through July 1/07
163,037 Puzzle Series Vol. 3: Sudoku (Sudoku Gridmaster) (Hudson) (3/23/06) - through Dec 31/06
161,606 Taiko no Tatsujin DS: Touch de Dokodon! (Namco) (7/26/07) - through Oct 14/07
161,493 Sangokushi Taisen DS (Sega) (1/25/07) - through July 1/07
158,230 SimCity DS (EA) (2/22/07) - through July 1/07
144,631 Power Pro Kun Pocket 9 (Konami) (12/7/06) - through July 1/07
139,944 Chocobo to Mahou no Ehon (Final Fantasy Fables: Chocobo Tales) (Square Enix) (12/14/06) - through July 1/07
137,669 Naruto: Shinobi Retsuden (Takara Tomy) (12/14/06) - through July 1/07
136,678 Gyakuten Saiban 3 (Best Price!) (Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney Trials and Tribulations) (Capcom) (8/23/07) - through Oct 7/07
136,441 Dragon Ball Z: Harukanaru Goku Densetsu (Dragon Ball Z: Harukanaru Densetsu) (Bandai) (3/21/07) - through July 1/07
135,000 Naruto RPG2: Chidori vs Rasengan (Tomy) (7/14/05) - rounded off through July 2/06 (MC)
129,988 Minna no DS Seminar: Kanpeki Kanji Ryoku (TDK) (7/20/06) - through Dec 31/06
128,569 Kouchuu Ouja Mushi King: Greatest Champion e no Michi 2 (Sega) (7/27/06) - through Mar 11/07
125,445 Rune Factory: Shin Bokujou Monogatari (Rune Factory: Fantasy Harvest Moon) (Marvelous) (8/24/06) - through Dec 31/06
123,000 Bokujou Monogatari Colobocle Station (Harvest Moon DS) (Marvellous) (3/17/05) - rounded off through July 2/06 (MC)
122,788 Power Pro Kun Pocket 8 (Konami) (12/1/05) - through Dec 31/06
122,084 Tamagotchi no Appare! Niji-Venture (Tamagotchi Connection: Corner Shop 3) (Bandai) (3/29/07) - through July 1/07
121,149 Naruto: Saikyou Ninja Daikesshuu 4 (Naruto: Ninja Council 3) (Tomy) (4/27/06) - through Dec 31/06
119,584 Sekaiju no Meikyuu (Etrian Odyssey) (Atlus) (1/18/07) - through July 1/07
118,143 Kimi no Tame Nara Shineru (Feel the Magic: XY/XX) (Sega) (12/2/04) - through July 2/06 (MC)
117,849 Unou no Tatsujin: Soukai! Machigai Museum (QuickSpot) (Namco) (2/9/06) - through Mar 11/07
117,351 Kabushiki Baibai Trainer Kabutore (Konami) (12/14/06) - through July 1/07
113,496 Gotouchi Kentei DS (Spike) (11/22/06) - through July 1/07
112,811 Bokujou Monogatari: Colobocle Station for Girls (Harvest Moon DS Cute) (Marvelous) (12/8/05) - through Dec 31/06
108,248 Toeic Test DS Training (IE) (3/29/07) - through July 8/07
107,127 Crayon Shin-Chan DS: Arashi wo Yobu Nutte Crayoon Daisakusen! (Banpresto) (3/21/07) - through July 1/07
106,526 Rockman EXE 5 DS: Twin Leaders (Mega Man Battle Network 5: Double Team) (Capcom) (7/21/05) - through Dec 31/06
105,258 Ochaken no Heya DS (Dogz: Happy House) (MTO) (4/27/06) - through Dec 31/06
103,262 Unou no Tatsuhin! Soukai! Machigai Museum 2 (Namco) (3/1/07) - through July 1/07
103,000 Puyo Puyo Fever (Puyo Pop Fever) (Sega) (12/24/04) - rounded off through July 2/06 (MC)
102,249 Yu-Gi-Oh Duel Monsters Nightmare Troubadour (Yu-Gi-Oh!: Nightmare Troubadour) (Konami) (7/21/05) - through Nov 12/06
102,055 Bleach DS 2nd: Kokui Hirameku Requiem (Sega) (2/15/07) - through July 1/07
101,750 Kirarin * Revolution: Kira Kira Idol Audition (Konami) (8/10/06) - through Dec 31/06

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1,332,378 Monster Hunter Portable 2nd (Monster Hunter Freedom 2) (Capcom) (2/22/07) – through Oct 14/07
977,741 Monster Hunter Portable (+ PSP the Best) (Monster Hunter Freedom) (Capcom) (12/1/05) / (8/3/06) – through Dec 31/06 (MC) / July 1/07
705,311 Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII (Square Enix) (9/13/07) – through Oct 14/07
374,549 Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops (Konami) (12/21/06) - through Sept 2/07
319,228 Ridge Racers (+ PSP the Best) (Ridge Racer) (Namco) (12/12/04) / (11/17/05) - through Apr 10/05 (MC) / Dec 31/06 (274,682 + 44,546)
302,936 World Soccer Winning Eleven 9: Ubiquitous Edition (Konami) (9/15/05) / (4/27/06) – both through Dec 31/06 (MC)
298,799 Final Fantasy Tactics: Shishi Sensou (Final Fantasy Tactics: The War of the Lions) (Square Enix) (5/10/07) – through Sept 2/07
297,816 Kahashima Ryuuta Kyouju Kanshuu Nouryoku Trainer Portable (Sega) (10/20/05) – through Dec 31/06
286,187 Shin Sangoku Musou (Dynasty Warriors) (Koei) (12/16/04) - through Dec 25/05
278,702 SD Gundam G Generation Portable (Bandai) (8/3/06) - through Sept 2/07
271,946 Tales of Eternia (+ PSP the Best) (Namco) (3/3/05) / (12/1/05) - through Dec 25/05 / Dec 31/06 (MC) (193,458 + 78,488)
239,000 Tales of The World: Radiant Mythology (Namco) (12/21/06) – rounded off through Feb 18/07 (MC)
192,903 Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops Plus (+ Deluxe Pack) (Konami) (9/20/07) – through Oct 14/07 / Sept 30/07 (168,873 + 24,030)
191,512 Mahjong Kakutou Club (+ PSP the Best) (Konami) (12/12/04) / (3/2/06) - through ? (between Jan 1/06 – Feb 26/06) / Sept 2/07
168,515 Valkyrie Profile: Lenneth (Square Enix) (3/2/06) – through Dec 31/06
164,432 Kotoba no Puzzle Mojipittan Daijiten (+ PSP The Best) (Namco) (12/16/04) / (11/17/05) - through Dec 25/05 / Dec 31/06 (115,349 + 49,083)
164,284 Jikkyou Powerful Pro Yakyuu Portable (Konami) (4/1/06) - through Dec 31/06 (MC)
140,863 Dragon Ball Z: Shin Budokai (Bandai) (4/20/06) - through Dec 31/06
133,401 Gundam Battle Chronicle (Bandai) (10/4/07) – through Oct 21/07 (MC)
131,742 Kidou Senshi Gundam Seed: Rengou vs. Z.A.F.T. Portable (Bandai) (4/5/07) – through Sept 2/07
124,025 Final Fantasy Anniversary Edition (Square Enix) (4/19/07) – through Sept 2/07
123,227 Derby Stallion P (Enterbrain) (7/27/06) - through Sept 2/07
118,553 Metal Gear Acid (Konami) (12/16/04) - through Dec 25/05
118,229 World Soccer Winning Eleven 10: Ubiquitous Edition (Konami) (12/14/06) – through Mar 18/07
117,770 Tekken: Dark Resurrection (Namco) (7/6/06) – through Dec 31/06 (MC)
116,176 Ace Combat X: Skies of Deception (Namco) (10/26/06) - through Sept 2/07
114,861 Gundam Battle Royale (Bandai) (10/5/06) – through Dec 31/06
114,664 Geki Sengoku Musou (Samurai Warriors: State of War) (Koei) (12/8/05) - through Dec 31/06 (MC)
113,984 Tales of Destiny 2 (Namco) (2/15/07) – through July 1/07
111,300 Tales of Phantasia: Full Voice Edition (Namco) (9/7/06) – through Dec 31/06 (MC)
110,823 Dragon Quest & Final Fantasy in Itadaki Street Portable (Square Enix) (5/25/06) - through Dec 31/06
108,687 Initial D: Street Stage (Sega) (2/23/06) - through Dec 31/06 (MC)
107,259 Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories (Capcom) (7/26/07) – through Oct 7/07
103,834 Eiyuu Densetsu Gagharv Trilogy: Shiroki Majo (The Legend of Heroes II: Prophecy of the Moonlight Witch) (Bandai) (12/16/04)

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donny2112 said:

Looking at the last 8 weeks:
PSP: 718,998
DS: 632,168

PSP: +86,830


LTD up to that point:
PSP: 5,879,599
DS: 19,100,856

DS: +13,221,257

Spoiler

If you look at the last 10 weeks, DS is ahead of PSP by 108K. Also, DS has been ahead of PSP for the last 3 weeks.

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FoxHimself said:

Hey now! If the PSP continues to sell 86,830 more than the DS every 8 weeks, it'll overtake it in 1210 weeks!

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Xeke said:

This tie-in ratio stuff is bullshit. The DS does not have a userbase of nearly 20 million. Most of the people that owned a phat have upgraded by now I think it's probably closer to 15 million than 20.

It may be even lower depending on how many people replaced their phats.

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schild said:

Guys, DS games don't make that much money The margins are pretty shitty. Please don't compare the UMD to it. It's just silly. Very, very few companies are getting 1 money hat off the DS let alone MANY money hats.

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AdventureRacing said:

Really? I could of swore that it was cheaper to make games on DS than PSP. As such i would of thought the profit margins would be bigger on DS.

Can anyone clarify this who actually knows more about it?

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The PSP?s power also had a price for developers who would now have to spend upwards of ten times the amount of money to develop a PSP game as opposed to a GBA game. In 2005 a survey by The Japanese Computer Entertainment Suppliers Association reported that the average development costs for a PSP game was the same as a GCN game and just short of a PS2 game.

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:: Where does PSP development fit on a production cost level compared to console game development and also Nintendo DS development. Will PSP budgets and production challenges rise as development moves away from comparable platforms and onto next-gen systems?

I have never made a DS game, so I cannot really do a head-to-head comparison of DS cost versus PSP cost. I think in general a PSP game cost us about 1/2 to 2/3 what a PS2 game did and an order of magnitude less than a PS3 game. Just looking at the first 3 cycles we spent on the PSP, costs went up each time as the production value the consumer expected continued to rise and rise and I think that is the biggest area of inflation for PSP games. I hope everyone developing in the PSP market now has their tech and tool chains fairly mature so that should just be more of an incremental, specific to the game you are making right now cost and will not fluctuate up or down wildly.

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Dalthien said:

Charts updated.

By the way, I forgot to mention it before, but the publisher breakdown for the PSP has been up for a good month or so now. (Post #6)


- DS surpasses 80 million in software sales

- Capcom becomes the top publisher on the PSP even though they only have a third of the number of titles as Sony (although Sony will reclaim the top spot next week with Hot Shots Golf 2 - and if Namco's & Bandai's sales are combined, then they are the top publisher by a fair margin)

- it's just kind of odd to see Square Enix not even in the Top 5 publishers for a Sony platform (although they do have the highest average sales per game)

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Dalthien said:

Charts updated.

By the way, I forgot to mention it before, but the publisher breakdown for the PSP has been up for a good month or so now. (Post #6)


- DS surpasses 80 million in software sales

- Capcom becomes the top publisher on the PSP even though they only have a third of the number of titles as Sony (although Sony will reclaim the top spot next week with Hot Shots Golf 2 - and if Namco's & Bandai's sales are combined, then they are the top publisher by a fair margin)

- it's just kind of odd to see Square Enix not even in the Top 5 publishers for a Sony platform (although they do have the highest average sales per game)

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apujanata said:

80 Million down, 100 Million to go.

Dalthien, What is the S/W # for PS2, GBA ? Maybe we should compare them to DS'.

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994,703 Hoshi no Kirby: Sanjou! Dorocche Dan (Kirby Squeak Squad) (Nintendo) (11/2/06) - through July 1/07
978,611 Oshare Majo Love and Berry (DS Collection) (Sega) (11/22/06) - through July 1/07
862,353 Shaberu! DS Oryouri Navi (Nintendo) (7/20/06) - through Nov 25/07
810,398 Yoshi's Island DS (Nintendo) (3/8/07) - through July 22/07
789,091 Zelda no Densetsu: Mugen no Sunadokei (The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass) (Nintendo) (6/23/07) - through Sept 23/07
780,711 Tamagotchi no Puchi Puchi Omisecchi Gohi-Kini (Tamagotchi Connection: Corner Shop 2) (Bandai) (7/27/06) - through July 1/07
767,212 Pokemon Fushigi no Dungeon: Ao no Kyuujotai (Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Blue Rescue Team) (Nintendo) (11/17/05) - through Mar 11/07
743,864 Jump! Ultimate Stars (Nintendo) (11/23/06) - through July 1/07
731,857 Dragon Quest IV: Michibikareshi Monotachi (Square Enix) (11/22/07) - through Dec 2/07 (MC)

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sphinx said:

I think the bolded will have passed the million mark when the DS successor launches in Japan.

I thought it was common knowledge that the tamagotchi sequel bombed badly. It's suprising to realize that not only it didn't bomb but it is one of the Top 30 best selling games across all current-gen systems in Japan O_O....

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JeremyR said:

I noticed you listed "Eiyuu Densetsu: Sora no Kiseki SC" twice (one should probably be "Eiyuu Densetsu: Sora no Kiseki FC", FC and SC for First Chapter and Second Chapter.

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Fuzzy said:

The GBA SW Shipments through 9/30/07 was only 72.59 million in Japan so the DS has far surpassed that.

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Dalthien said:

Thanks. Those are some good eyes that you have! I'm not sure how that happened. We are usually really good about double-checking everything. I know that we had them both correctly listed a few weeks ago - it must have got messed up during the last update for these titles. We'll be sure to have it fixed in next week's update.


That is pretty amazing when you stop to think about it.

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apujanata said:

Since GBA H/W combined is 17.8 Million, while NDS H/W combined is 20.1 Million, the S/W # by it self is not surprising. What is suprising is the speed. It took NDS < 3years (Dec 04 - Nov 07) to achieve what GBA achieve in 4.5 years (March 01 to Dec 05)

PS2 H/W need 7.5 years to achieve what NDS did in < 3 years. No one have PS/2 S/W # ?

thank for the GBA S/W #, Fuzzy.

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apujanata said:

Just ignore him. He didn't know what he is talking about.
http://www.gwn.com/articles/article.php/id/747/p/title/title/R.I.P._PSP.html



http://psp.ign.com/articles/775/775686p2.html


http://money.cnn.com/2004/06/09/commentary/game_over/column_gaming/index.htm

I couldn't find the article that mentioned that DS game development cost is HALF of PSP game development cost.

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The average price of the 13 Xbox games included in the survey was 202 million yen ($1.8 million), with PlayStation 2 and GameCube development costs trailing behind at 96 million yen ($877,634) and 90 million yen ($822,857), respectively. Information on development costs for that study was voluntarily supplied by publishers.

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Fuzzy said:

The GBA SW Shipments through 9/30/07 was only 72.59 million in Japan so the DS has far surpassed that.

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Fuzzy said:

The PS2 SW Production Shipments through 3/31/07 for Japan* was 228 million but that doesn't help us.


*Asia

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draggoon01 said:

So if ds costs half of psp we could guess that the cost difference is $400,000-$500,000

Depending on how much cheaper umd discs are than ds game cards, then media savings could cancel out development savings.

Anyone know media costs?

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draggoon01 said:

http://www.*************/news/6133848.html



So if ds costs half of psp we could guess that the cost difference is $400,000-$500,000

Depending on how much cheaper umd discs are than ds game cards, then media savings could cancel out development savings.

Anyone know media costs?

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apujanata said:

Since DS price is usually $20 - $25, and assuming the following :
- 20% - 30% margin for retailer
- 10% - 20% distribution cost
- 10% - 25% licensing cost (paid to console manufacturer)
- 10% - 20%

That means, the cost of the game (development + media) is maximum 50% of retail price, or $ 12.5, max. If we assume that media cost is 30% (max) of that $12.5, then media cost for DS is $4 (rounded up from 3.75). If UMD is much cheaper, we can assume that it is $2 (only 50% of DS' media).
With $2 difference, the $400K - 500K difference can only be overcame with minimum sales of 200K - 250K. Lots of S/W does not even reach 100K WW sales, so most game does not enjoy better profit on PSP that was caused by media.

If you don't agree with my assumption, you can change the percentage yourself and post it here, so people can comment on it.

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apujanata said:

PS2 H/W need 7.5 years to achieve what NDS did in < 3 years. No one have PS/2 S/W # ?

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Fuzzy said:

The PS2 SW Production Shipments through 3/31/07 for Japan* was 228 million but that doesn't help us.


*Asia

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donny2112 said:

Note: We have much more complete DS software data than PS2/GBA, because we have Top 500s for 2005/6 and only Top 100s for 2000-2004.

From my numbers, I have

PS2 - 153.5 million

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JoshuaJSlone said:

Since I don't have anything past Top 100 for 2000-2004 this is far from as complete as it could be, but the amassed PS2 software data I have from Famitsu through the week of 2007-11-19 is 156.3 million from 1513 SKUs.

Ah, our results are similar, but not identical. Interesting. Could be either due to me including some data you didn't, or the occasional doubled entry that's slipped through.

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JoshuaJSlone said:

Could be either due to me including some data you didn't,

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Dalthien said:

Charts updated!

The DS now has 18 million-sellers that we have data for.

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donny2112 said:

Is there a particular data set that you think you might have used that I would have skipped or not known about?

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Dalthien said:

Charts updated!

The DS now has 18 million-sellers that we have data for.

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speedpop said:

So the first Layton did 725K. Not bad at all.

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ForzaItalia said:

Sorry if it's already been asked but what are the worldwide sales totals for DS and PSP hardware?

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NDS : 56 Million
PSP : 27 Million

JoshuaJSlone said:

Not specifically, just thinking that with so much of it around it'd be easy for something to slip through. For reference, though, I keep a pretty decent list of the sources I've used here.

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speedpop said:

So the first Layton did 725K. Not bad at all.

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dark10x said:

Ah, Singapore has good taste I see.

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donny2112 said:

There was a BEST re-release of Sonic Adventure in 1999 that I last had at 43,579 (19990718). I figured that nifty had probably added the yearly total for the BEST release to the base release, which would be why his total was higher. After that, I stayed with YSO for the annual Top 100s.

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Stop It said:

SO, DS has not shifted 82,940,043 software units? holy shit on a stick that's impressive, as it has already supassed PS2 in Japan in terms of Hardware sold, how long until has it got to go software wise?

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JoshuaJSlone said:

Ahh, I 'll have to take a closer look at that.

Well, we don't know all of PS2's software sales, but neither do we know all of DS's. Last time I was comparing their totals, though, I noted that DS at 3 years seemed to be about where PS2 was at 4 years.

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Dalthien said:

Just finished the latest chart updates, including the full-year Top 100 data.

It's interesting to note that Konami and Namco both now have greater total sales on the DS instead of the PSP. Both publishers had greater total PSP sales all the way up until just recently.

These are the two main publishers who have really focused their strongest efforts on the PSP (Metal Gear Solid Acid & Portable Ops, Winning Eleven, Ridge Racer, numerous Tales titles, Ace Combat X, Tekken, etc.), so it's interesting to see that their DS sales have now surpassed their PSP sales.

That really only leaves Capcom and Koei as major publishers who have greater PSP sales than DS sales. And Capcom's DS total is surprisingly close to their PSP total (2.5M vs. 2.9M) considering that 2.5 million units of their PSP sales comes from the two Monster Hunter titles.

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jj984jj said:

Impossible, aside from Square-Enix 3rd parties aren't successful on the DS.

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Dalthien said:

Just finished the latest chart updates, including the full-year Top 100 data.

It's interesting to note that Konami and Namco both now have greater total sales on the DS instead of the PSP. Both publishers had greater total PSP sales all the way up until just recently.

These are the two main publishers who have really focused their strongest efforts on the PSP (Metal Gear Solid Acid & Portable Ops, Winning Eleven, Ridge Racer, numerous Tales titles, Ace Combat X, Tekken, etc.), so it's interesting to see that their DS sales have now surpassed their PSP sales.

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ethelred said:

Well, on Konami's side, it's mostly just a matter of volume. They still haven't had any DS games that have sold nearly as well as their top-selling PSP games. Namco has (Mojipittan and Taiko have sold great). And pretty much all of Konami's stuff aside from the Power Pro Pocket series has sold really poorly.

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jj984jj said:

Impossible, aside from Square-Enix 3rd parties aren't successful on the DS.

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