He thinks the leakers are fake news actually. But yes, he's been constantly confirming the leaks are real.
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CNN: FBI refused White House request to knock down recent Trump-Russia stories
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He thinks the leakers are fake news actually. But yes, he's been constantly confirming the leaks are real.
No one understands leaks better than me. Believe me.
Trump is losing it. He can't keep this trickle of information from getting out to the public. Nothing but a stready stream of rants about the IC since all of this mess began. I sure do hope the flood gates open soon and the FBI empties itself all over Trump and flushes him, Bannon, and Stephen right into the septic tank.
More_Badass
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"Fake news, bad dudes" should be the speech title
superdeluxe
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Asks FBI (which he can't do) to discredit leaks, FBI refuses. Publicly rebukes the FBI..
Thaedolus
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I don't get the Republican angle here...are they just hoping to get as much of their agenda done before this whole administration comes crumbling down and they get slaughtered in the midterms? Or are they trying to delay so that this shit happens afterward so they get 4 years in before being slaughtered? Because their heads are all going to roll when the level of corruption and collusion they've participated in comes out.
I hope...
super-heated plasma
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I think a possibility is that Comey figured Trump would still lose, but the scandals would hurt Clinton during her presidency and pave the way for the Republicans in 2020. After what they thought would be severe damage to the Democrats and ensuring they would get and retain power in 2020 and beyond. They're timetable was just sped up with Trump and he us not the person they obviously had in mind when they regained control. Definitely a long game which partly backfired for them as they blew their load too early.
RustyNails
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Ah this makes more sense.
BronsonLee
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You know when you're at a buffet and you want to eat everything but you're worried about what happens if you do
They ate too much in like ten minutes
BrutishMrFish
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Even if Trump is impeached, people will still vote for Republicans as long as the party keeps offering lower taxes or opposing abortions. The Republican party bounced back from actively lying to get us into a war, and they'll bounce back from one guy being in cahoots with Russia.
It's not the FBI's job to do what Comey did, either. His current silence isn't indicative of restraint when he was so eager to blab about vague new evidence in the email investigation. If he didn't have the foresight to see that his actions would have an impact in the short term, he can't have the foresight to see what's going to happen to the Republicans in that long term. So if he is playing the long game against the Republicans, the most generous thing I can say about him is that he's dangerously unfit to do so.
It's more like being at wedding reception. You are really fucking hungry and only have so much time before you go home, so you hog the chocolate fountain and all of the other sweets while trying not to shit yourself.
NullPointer
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Maybe the cold medicine is clouding my mind but I'm not seeing the big deal with this story.
This is the summary as I understand it:
* Several outlets report that members and associates of the Trump campaign had sustained contacts with Russians associated with or part of Russian Intelligence.
* The names get released.
* Those named Trump campaign officials deny the allegations entirely.
* Priebus is questioned about the allegations, repeats that they are 100% false, and says that he was told by a very senior (but unnamed) source that the story is complete BS and that investigators know its BS. Priebus makes the point that anonymous sources are fine when providing background and context, but not for serious allegations.
* Story comes out that Priebus talked to the FBI to get them to go on background stating that the story is BS.
So, if those allegations of campaign contact with Russian intelligence were actually false or seriously misstated, and Priebus was told as much by a senior official at the FBI this all makes sense. As far as I know there has been no new reporting that helps confirm the story of these contacts. We have whats been reported on on one side, and complete public denials on the other, and nothing has changed.
If the allegations are true and the administration is lying, those public denials would come back to bite everyone involved. But again, there hasn't been any new reporting on the veracity of those contacts since. And this part sticks in my craw. Those allegations are huge, and the reporting was supposedly well sourced - which means something royally stinks here, but the second shoe hasn't dropped, and we're all left in limbo as regards that story.
Now if the story here is that Priebus shouldn't have spoken to the FBI about this, yeah, thats a story, but I don't think it would have been dramatically different if Pence or the White House counsel had had the discussion rather than Priebus, since those two are allowed to discuss current investigations with the DOJ.
Again, I'm medicated, but I do have doubts about the story of those contacts as reported since the very public and complete denials that have been left unanswered. What am I missing here?
This is the summary as I understand it:
* Several outlets report that members and associates of the Trump campaign had sustained contacts with Russians associated with or part of Russian Intelligence.
* The names get released.
* Those named Trump campaign officials deny the allegations entirely.
* Priebus is questioned about the allegations, repeats that they are 100% false, and says that he was told by a very senior (but unnamed) source that the story is complete BS and that investigators know its BS. Priebus makes the point that anonymous sources are fine when providing background and context, but not for serious allegations.
* Story comes out that Priebus talked to the FBI to get them to go on background stating that the story is BS.
So, if those allegations of campaign contact with Russian intelligence were actually false or seriously misstated, and Priebus was told as much by a senior official at the FBI this all makes sense. As far as I know there has been no new reporting that helps confirm the story of these contacts. We have whats been reported on on one side, and complete public denials on the other, and nothing has changed.
If the allegations are true and the administration is lying, those public denials would come back to bite everyone involved. But again, there hasn't been any new reporting on the veracity of those contacts since. And this part sticks in my craw. Those allegations are huge, and the reporting was supposedly well sourced - which means something royally stinks here, but the second shoe hasn't dropped, and we're all left in limbo as regards that story.
Now if the story here is that Priebus shouldn't have spoken to the FBI about this, yeah, thats a story, but I don't think it would have been dramatically different if Pence or the White House counsel had had the discussion rather than Priebus, since those two are allowed to discuss current investigations with the DOJ.
Again, I'm medicated, but I do have doubts about the story of those contacts as reported since the very public and complete denials that have been left unanswered. What am I missing here?
From everything Ive read they've yet to come to a conclusion about the leaks and the investigation is still ongoing. The Trump admin's denial mean nothing, the FBI as far as I know have not pubically spoke on material matters of this investigation one way or the other and every thing we get from MSM is "leaked". I wouldn't put so much thought into this until soemthing is actually released because for the most part the details we have we shouldnt have had in the first place.
Really Trump's Twitter tirades are the only thing thats helping us determine how real or true these stories are.
NullPointer
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And yet the man is a pile of buffoonery and contradictions.
This must be how the press feels when trying to make sense of Trump.
Other than the fact that the contact does not appear to be bogus according to CNN, NYC and WaPo. Also, contacting the FBI who is currently investigating the executive branch to try and get them to comment publicly in your favor about said investigation is illegal. It is extremely similar behavior to what got Nixon out of office (except Nixon actually tried to fire the person leading the investigation into Watergate)
Could you imagine if Lynch, Obama or anyone in that administration had contacted the FBI to try and get them to clear Hillary Clintons name publicly instead of allowing for an independent investigation.
This is an abuse of power, and is specifically illegal because of the very clear need for the ability for law enforcement to investigate the executive branch without having political pressure applied to them.
Fried Food
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Lmao he is so mad, could even finish his tweet, "they can't even..."
Nothing will come of this like everything else. People want him out so badly and quick, and I get it, but we have to ride it out. Voting Dems back in the majority of The House is the first step.
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The Horror the horror
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I thought the Director of the FBI answered to the Attorney General? How is Jeff Sessions unable to get the agency to comply with the White House's request?
TheLostBigBoss
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That's part of the story, the WH went directly to the FBI and broke protocol.
The AG is supposed to maintain independence from the Presidency. Of course, Sessions is so far up Trumps ass that will never happen.
Fried Food
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Not saying I disagree, but if that were true, why not just ask sessions to make the request.
Politically, it doesn't look good. NPR talked about this a few days ago.
http://www.npr.org/2017/02/22/51664...s-openly-dismissive-of-the-intelligence-world
Saint Gregory
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The thing that's so crazy about all of this to me is there is absolutely no question, not a single one, that Trump has extensive business and personal ties to Russia. He and Putin have both in the past described having a loose friendship in the media and he traveled there frequently for business interests in the 2000s.
What is the point in trying to act as if none of that is true now as opposed to trying to instead downplay all of the "Manchurian Candidate" conspiracy theories as being silly? I'd say this is some kind of long game to make his detractors look silly like Obama did with the birth certificate issue but no one in the White House seems smart enough or nuanced for that kind of game.
What is the point in trying to act as if none of that is true now as opposed to trying to instead downplay all of the "Manchurian Candidate" conspiracy theories as being silly? I'd say this is some kind of long game to make his detractors look silly like Obama did with the birth certificate issue but no one in the White House seems smart enough or nuanced for that kind of game.
gutter_trash
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Same reason they didn't have lawyers go over the EOs. Gross incompetence and hubris.
We've got a 70 year old reality TV show host as president and a web tabloid editor as his chief strategist. These guys can't even call Australia without tripping all over themselves.
This isn't 12th dimensional chess, it's literally just unqualified people being in over their heads.
Man-is-Obsolete
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Maddow calls them either incredibly stupid or nefarious.
https://youtu.be/2Qft97GKiF4
Is there anyone else that researches these things and presents it as well as Maddow?
https://youtu.be/2Qft97GKiF4
Is there anyone else that researches these things and presents it as well as Maddow?
FantasticMrFoxdie
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LEAK HIM UP
It will be the biggest win for 1000 years! Great Leader Trump wins bigly, always!
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Now I'm confused... so the FBI really is not a servant of the Trump administration? That's some 4D chess here...
innervision961
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Go on r/t_d, they are already saying that he and his administration are hinting at it by talking about human and child trafficking recently.
There is some video going around that supposedly you can hear Podesta abusing a child. It's crazy.
I visited t_d several times already, that's why I say it. He already believes in illegal votes so I can see him going more into conspiracy territory only because those nutjobs are the only ones that praise him without question.
Its just a matter of time (and pressure) in my opinion.
This is the real story from today, not the press gaggle. They are deflecting that they are actively working to cover up that they are Russian puppets.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39080673
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39080673
Gotta go with this.
if thats the case, they're doing a shit ass job of it. They haven't passed much of anything since the new session. Have they even sent a single bill to Trump to sign? For the six years they bitched about repealing obama care, you would think they would have had a solution ready, even if they didnt, after they found out Trump won they could have come up with something in between Nov 9th and Jan 20th.
And of course the talking points came out of the republican enclave last week, I saw Ann Coulter, Hannity and one other conservative jackass say things like "trumps moving at lighting speed, but where's republican congress?" When in reality Trumps done very little.
RumblingRosco
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I'm thankful that someone in the FBI isn't totally suckered into Trump's shit.
WaPo is reporting the White House's attempts to shoot down the story went beyond the FBI:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...487552-fa99-11e6-be05-1a3817ac21a5_story.html
God damn. Clearly there's nothing there, we should all look away and go back to not questioning Trump.
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