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MeisaMcCaffrey
It's a mainline Halo game, you can pretty much expect a lot of engine upgrades. But yeah, it can't be a new engine.
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First Halo 4 in game images [Up: Third New Screenshot In OP]
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No I was talking about the resolution, not the other stuff, but I also missed his other post:
Look at the Vita screenshot thread thenScreens are always taken larger for print purposes.
So the shots are rendered at a higher resolution
phosphor112
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Bethesda's "new engine" for Skyrim :lol
les papillons sexuels
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I better get those kinda visor reflections in game, and if not in game then at least in photomode.
It's totally a new engine. It's modified from the old engine therefore new! See? See!? >_>;
Ajemsuhgao
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Cubemaps and a nice shader/material? Okay, done.
SwimmingwithChickenz
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The shots look great and all, but is it really that much better than this:
Im_So_Pringles
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Your opinion. Why do people care?
We're just excited because this is the first real footage of Halo 4, and the first real news in six months, bullshots or not.
Yep.
Granted they improved a good bit with Reach.
Eh, we all know Halo 3 was an ugly, pea-soupy mess with Jagged Edge(s) and human character models from about 10 years back. It's not a bad-looking game per se, but it wasn't very close to the pre-release shots. The in-game replay screenshots also apply AA and other cheats.Im_So_Pringles said:
I'm glad it's improved so much, but it was not an amazing flagship title graphically.
phosphor112
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Don't get me wrong man, that game will look great. Even at the laughable resolution of Halo 3, that game looked really good. Reach was a huge step up as well, and since it was near 720p it worked well. But I don't expect many games to go beyond 720p this generation. Especially an FPS.
AllIsOneIsNone
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The shots look great and all, but is it really that much better than this:
much better? no. better? definitely.
The shots look great and all, but is it really that much better than this:
Yes they are. Which is why I am sceptical.
Phonomezer
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I think we should wait to see it in motion before the Reach comparisons, less this thread devolve into a cluster fuck of 800x zoomed in pixel counting..
So it can be interated on the newer platform?
That's what always bugged me. The game looked good but it was low res. Ok, so what?
The shots look great and all, but is it really that much better than this:
He's holding a BR, so yes.
Halo 4 is still running on an Xbox 360, nobody should be expecting a massive difference.
I guess if you're used to playing games in high res it might detract a lot from the otherwise decent visuals.
Well that sure shut me up.
Ajemsuhgao
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The shots look great and all, but is it really that much better than this:
Poly count is a little higher maybe, texture res looks the same...material obviously different. Overall, nope. About equal IMO.
Sikamikanico
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Oh my, the BR has returned. And the Chief is looking badass.
Get hype, today is going to be awesome.
Get hype, today is going to be awesome.
Pretty sure shader aliasing happens from bad specular highlights, so im not really sure why you're bringing that up.
Also if you would read the thread, game shots are typically blown up for the press, which is true. So while they aren't 100% true, if what he's saying is legit, these should at least give us a good idea what to expect. Plus I know 1600x900 is 16:9, so is 1280x720 and 1152x720, but when scaled down it fits the former better than the latter (assuming I did my math right).
Last, I was asking about the halo reveal tomorrow, not GDC. IMO its clear you have no interest in the game and just want to downplay it.
IMO "new engine" is too broad and vague. Its likely at its core the blam! engine, but modified to their needs. There is still halo tech since you aren't going to throw away everything and start from scratch.
You're mistaken, there should be no different from pulling the camera back in debug view and a direct screen grab other than the position of the camera. He specifically said this isn't some theatre mode screen.
Vinterbird
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But creating a engine that works on two platforms will undoubtly come with some compromises at some juncture, so it would be preferable to do two several engines, and at that point it's just weird to have built a entirely new engine for a single game. (in reality, there is probably a bunch of stuff they can take from the engine as it is now and bring to the next platform, or it's like Frostbite and just scales up when more power is available)
Monocle
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XANDER CAGE
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These look great, though.
AllIsOneIsNone
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Tell that to Crytek.
I don't think Microsoft would sign off on this and I don't think it's terribly practical, either. That would have to be an incredibly versatile engine to be able to coax these graphics out of the 360 and still be applicable to completely different hardware that's nearly a decade newer.
The developers literally say that they created a new internal engine during the Gameinformer interview. I dunno how you can say it isn't.
That's what I mean with iterate, they can add and improve for the engine without having to create a whole new one.
The engine now is optimised for the 360, it can be optimised for newer hardware. Built it now, iterate and you pretty much have a rock solid engine for a couple of years.
CrazedArabMan
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That detail on the BR model!!! I'm a sucker for that stuff, now give us a video!!
There comes a point where you have to stop banking on every word from the developer and start using common sense.
IrishNinja
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looks good, but you just know the next Warhammer game is gonna rip off the look again.
I combined both answers in one post because I too lazy to address you both individually.
The developer didn't say that, I am using common sense.
Crytek have a vested interest in supporting multiple APIs and probably has a larger engineering team than 343i. Not really comparable.
Believe what you want, it just can be spun so easily I'm automatically skeptical. Take Halo 3 engine, make different modifications than bungie's reach engine and blamo our new engine. In reality it can be true and untrue at the same time depending on how you look at it. Besides IIRC that's not the only time Frankie mentioned the game was built off of halo tech.
XANDER CAGE
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More Halo? Absolutely, but I always felt like 3 was a nice end for Chief, what with (at the time, at least) a lot of people thought
implied that Marathon happened after the credits
Looking forward to the reveal.
Yes, he said that they are using code from how things react within the world i.e. how the warthog reacts. That isn't about graphics though.
les papillons sexuels
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yeah... tell that to the team that sold out the pc tech so that they could bring you a game that, in most aspects, looks less impressive then their previous one.
No, developing for multiple platforms didn't impact them at all.
Sure, you force developers into learning a bunch of new tricks, they learn to optimize, but then they also have more restraints and more issues with maximizing hardware.
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