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Whiteshirt · Oct 23, 2013

Amir0x said:
Of course it can do that. Forza 5 is 1080p @ 60fps. However, it may be the case that the added complexity of the system architecture and the memory set up on the XBO causes it to be much harder to get a game properly optimized, and so a game like CoD which is being made for a hundred systems and is rushing to meet a launch deadline would not have as much time to get things right as the developers at Turn 10 who had much more time with the system architecture.

But yeah, I don't believe anything until we get a second source or a more verified final "yes" or "no", but it is worrying. All these sources are harmonizing on this news...

Of course it can but how much are you willing to sacrifice for that resolution? Current images and videos of Forza 5 don't show huge improvements over Forza 4 in terms of graphical features and its got crazy huge aliasing issues when I last checked. That was the point I was making. You can crank up the eyecandy with most $200 cards, like the HD7850/7870, and still get pretty decent performance at native 1080P resolution.

I don't really believe this news but at the same time it doesn't really surprise me. Upclock or not, the HD7790 is really a pathetic and basically outdated GPU to be shoving into a 2013 console that is designed to last at least 5 years. Throw in the 32mb of embedded memory and you've got even more problems.

Painraze · Oct 23, 2013

REV 09 said:
why do people act like this has anything to do with MS?

They've seemingly created an underpowered machine as we are seeing across multiple games. So I'd say it has a lot to do with MS, if this is true.

Amir0x · Oct 23, 2013

REV 09 said:
why do people act like this has anything to do with MS?

IF this is true, it would by default have a little to do with Microsoft. Likely the cause of this discrepancy would be the added complexity of the system hardware and the different memory set up, which causes games which have to hit short deadlines make sacrifices where on other platforms they wouldn't have to worry about it.

Again, IF it's true. Which, I don't know. I just think there's enough smoke now to discuss this,.

Gaz_RB · Oct 23, 2013

REV 09 said:
why do people act like this has anything to do with MS?

Because the PS4 version is running at 1080p and the XB1 version is allegedly running at 720. It'd be one thing if it was both at 720. It's on Microsoft if they built an underpowered machine.

op_ivy · Oct 23, 2013

Whiteshirt said:
Jesus man, you should have better standards. This is 2013 where all displays are TFT and 1920x1080 in resolution and basically any $200 GPU can run most games at that resolution @ 30 FPS smooth.

If the Xbox One seriously can't even do that, well...

well, you are right. especially a game like ghosts. it should be better. even on x1.

however, i'm someone who has a hard time seeing resolution differences, unless utterly side by side, which never happens in real gaming. knowing my console is putting out less pixels then the competition make my dick shrink a bit, but really, its almost a non-issue (for me - i know others are more eagle eyed). i'll be gaming either on a 37" 1080p set or a 50" 720p set for the record.

Mononoke · Oct 23, 2013

REV 09 said:
why do people act like this has anything to do with MS?

Because they chose lesser specs to focus on broadening their system to people beyond gaming? ie. They put less focus on the gaming side of what used to be a game machine. I'm not saying MS is actually to blame for this specific thing (if it ends up being true). But I think some gamers will be upset with MS for making certain design decisions that have made it harder for IW to get 1080p on Xbone (of course, this is assuming the rumor is true that it's 720p and if PS4 ends up being 1080p).

mysteriousmage09 · Oct 23, 2013

Best thing about news like this, true or false, is the gifs.

UNCMark · Oct 23, 2013

From Eurogamer months ago:

By Wesley Yin-Poole Published Tuesday, 11 June 2013

Call of Duty: Ghosts runs at 1080p resolution on Xbox One and PlayStation 4, Infinity Ward has said.

Perhaps something went terribly wrong?

not_so_special · Oct 23, 2013

im ready

Louis Cyphre · Oct 23, 2013

AstroNut325 said:
Someone at Infinity Ward needs to speak up. I don't believe it, but the hints are definitely strong.

If it's true they won't. They will say they are still tweaking the game even if it's gone gold.

All this hoopla before either system even comes out shows what a bunch of wild dogs we are.

jett · Oct 23, 2013

AstroNut325 said:
I refuse to believe this is true. I mean... COME ON! X1 game running at the same resolution as a Xbox 360 game? Nope. Not believing it for one moment.

The previous COD game ran at 880x720, in all fairness.

Glorified G · Oct 23, 2013

Betty said:
Would really love Microsofts reaction to be this.

720p? Bitch you talkin about the Wii U?

Requiem · Oct 23, 2013

Are people really considering canceling their pre-order because of the resolution of one game? And Call of Duty no less...

E92 M3 · Oct 23, 2013

earvcunanan said:

Get ready for:

Moobabe · Oct 23, 2013

REV 09 said:
why do people act like this has anything to do with MS?

How many games are 1080p at launch on their hardware?

Blue Ninja · Oct 23, 2013

Goddamn if true. This is a bad time to go to sleep. :lol

KrAzEd · Oct 23, 2013

They confirmed 1080p on Xbox one awhile ago....

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...s-runs-at-1080p-and-60fps-on-xbox-one-and-ps4

I would wait for confirmation before busting a nut GAF...but I guess that wouldn't be as fun.

Salvor.Hardin · Oct 23, 2013

Amir0x said:
No, I can't see if this is really Xbox One footage. Could simply be using the controller prompts and running off a PC. I don't have time to watch the entire video, but does something in this indicate otherwise?

If the 720p rumor were false then someone would have chimed in and corrected gaf or at least tweeted about it.

The unwritten law is that if a rumor reaches 10 pages within the hour without having been addressed, the rumor is true.

Chuck Norris · Oct 23, 2013

DSN2K said:
Im surprised difference is this big, besides the ram the performance of both should be around the same ball park.

PS4's GPU is significantly more powerful

Always-honest · Oct 23, 2013

radyboysmith said:
now thinking of cancelling my pre - order .

thats just not acceptable from a new console in the year 2013

I'd wait. But i think more people are hoovering their index-finger above the enterbutton to confirm cancellation,,,

Replicant · Oct 23, 2013

NullPointer said:

Great GIF. Where is it from?

And fuck whoever posted this rumor on reddit. We don't need to crash on this note.

Black_Stride · Oct 23, 2013

Whats going on in this threa..........

illmatic22 · Oct 23, 2013

Ohhhh Myyyy

frizby · Oct 23, 2013

chubigans said:
I get the feeling we'll see a new graphic from the Xbox twitter account tomorrow.

"GET THE FACTS: All games on XB1 are scaled up to 1080p!"

Somebody with more time than me should make this.

Orayn · Oct 23, 2013

SniperHunter said:
What split?

The supposed RAM allocation of 4.5-5GB for games, which turned out not to be entirely correct.

cdkee · Oct 23, 2013

if (ps4.resolution > xb1.resolution) {
xb1.preordercanceled = true;
}

TrojanBlade · Oct 23, 2013

Always-honest said:
This could lead to a tsunami of cancelled preorders..... Holy shit

If true ofcourse. Hard to believe

I highly doubt that...most gamers don't count pixels except the ones on GAF or other techie ones, unless this news becomes a mainstream news on front page...maybe then

XtremeXpider · Oct 23, 2013

Y2Kev said:
Guys really. Wait for proof. You will feel so much better later.

Who? Console-war warriors? Xbox One users?

EGOMON · Oct 23, 2013

Some Companies Just Want to Watch Next-gen Burn

Guy.brush · Oct 23, 2013

Should have called it Xbox 720 after all.

krypt0nian · Oct 23, 2013

shinra-bansho said:
I've never actually read that XB1 reddit properly before...

It's like a salt mine.

They are shitballs mad as hatters. It's like reading the videogame FreeRepublic.com.

Row · Oct 23, 2013

would certainly be interesting if this were the case, but I can't see the devs doing anything but trying to keep the versions as similar as possible

Schrade · Oct 23, 2013

not_so_special said:
im ready

They still sell Tab? Wow.

Osiris · Oct 23, 2013

shinra-bansho said:
I've never actually read that XB1 reddit properly before...

It's like a salt mine.

Salt mine?

It's a salt raft floating on a saline sea spanning a chloride planet under a sodium sun is what it is!

ProfessorMoran · Oct 23, 2013

ThisWreckage said:
Weaker hardware and hardware that seems to be more difficult to develop for than the PS4? It's all their fault. Every single bit of it. They made the hardware choices and even admitted that they didn't target powerful hardware.

They should just call the xbone the xbox720 if this 720p thing is true.

MagicWithEarvin · Oct 23, 2013

Moobabe said:
How many games are 1080p at launch on their hardware?

I prefer 720p

1080p has too many pixels on screen

NullPointer · Oct 23, 2013

Replicant said:
Great GIF. Where is it from?

Here: Greatness Awaits

Paz · Oct 23, 2013

The CoD rumor is not unbelievable but you really shouldn't take these things as fact. The OS rumor is a lot scarier (& Less believable).

Literally nothing has changed from this morning other than two people getting unconfirmed information though, try and keep things in perspective because you never know how these things will pan out.

everyday math · Oct 23, 2013

NullPointer said:
Who are you to be afraid?

You who can serve as judge and jury while hording infinite lives.

I really like this gif.

Amir0x · Oct 23, 2013

Salvor.Hardin said:
If the 720p rumor were false then someone would have chimed in and corrected gaf or at least tweeted about it.

The unwritten law is that if a rumor reaches 10 pages within the hour without having been addressed, the rumor is true.

While I suspect your 'unwritten law' has hints of truth, I am still going to choose not to believe this one way or the other until I get a better confirmation

DC1 · Oct 23, 2013

cdkee said:
if (ps4.resolution > xb1.resolution) {
xb1.preordercanceled = true;
}

But can you write that in PIC?

SSReborn · Oct 23, 2013

Betty said:
Would really love Microsofts reaction to be this.

haha perfect.

Ricerocket · Oct 23, 2013

Betty said:
Would really love Microsofts reaction to be this.

Lmao. Loved all his skits.

Vizzeh · Oct 23, 2013

For anyone catching up.

famousmortimer said:
Looking for another source before I break neogaf.

famousmortimer said:
I just can't say anything and finding another source in NDA-city is nigh impossible. I will fall on the sword of this one and say I'm awful for the tease and if a ban is needed to teach me/other potential teasers a lesson I totally get that.

mangochutney said:
720p? For real? Maybe that guy who said they were running at 15fps when they initially got the engine up and running was for real...

Ravidrath said:
This is anecdotal from E3, but...

I've heard the architecture with the ESRAM is actually a major hurdle in development because you need to manually fill and flush it.

So unless MS's APIs have improved to the point that this is essentially automatic, the bandwidth and hardware speed are probably irrelevant.

For reference, the story going around E3 went something like this:

"ATVI was doing the CoD: Ghosts port to nextgen. It took three weeks for PS4 and came out at 90 FPS unoptimized, and four months on Xbone and came out at 15 FPS."

Proelite said:
Given the choice between

720p COD

and

Xbox One OS that crashes / hangs once per user session. Flaky ass multi-player.

I think 720p COD is the lesser of the two evils.

thuway said:
720p 720p 720p 720p 720p 720p 720p 720p 720p

720p

MS dun goofed :/

Raist · Oct 23, 2013

keit4 said:
I think he is talking about this thread...

By posting hours before this thread was created?

edit: nvm, timestamps are different.

Doctor_Thomas · Oct 23, 2013

Requiem said:
Are people really considering canceling their pre-order because of the resolution of one game? And Call of Duty no less...

Call of Duty is a pretty low tier game, when it comes to graphics. It's always been about smooth framerate and if the resolution had to drop to get that, on the console where the DLC deals are, no less, then it's worrying but not just for CoD, for other games going forward.

UNCMark · Oct 23, 2013

Replicant said:
Great GIF. Where is it from?

And fuck whoever posted this rumor on reddit. We don't need to crash on this note.

Looks like the Greatness Awaits commercial.

big_z · Oct 23, 2013

A vast majority of people won't give a shit if it turns out to be 720p.

The bigger concern is the future. When we start seeing ps4 games run at sub-720p what's the xbone version going to run at?

Like the hat? · Oct 23, 2013

Schrade said:
They still sell Tab? Wow.

Most shocking thing of the thread imo

Gaz_RB · Oct 23, 2013

Salvor.Hardin said:
If the 720p rumor were false then someone would have chimed in and corrected gaf or at least tweeted about it.

The unwritten law is that if a rumor reaches 10 pages within the hour without having been addressed, the rumor is true.

since I've been on GAF, this law has never failed me. Developers and publishers don't let fake rumors like this run rampant. Look to how Sony acted around the Driveclub rumors.

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