Robdraggoo
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I don't believe there will be an all out battle with the white walkers. It's too easy. I also don't think you can win a war with them. As soon as your men die. They get resurrected by the night king. Joining his army.
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AndrewDean84xX
Banned
The three eyed raven will change the past, killing the night king and setting the mad king right before going mad.
Too easy sounds like exactly what GoT would do tho.
shira
Member
Nah. I mean Jon was literally born to the world in a promise, "promise me, Ned".
In the end, I personally expect
no war, but peace between the humans and walkers. I also expect there was a peace between humans and ww during the long night, so they build the ice wall to mark their terriitory. I see this thing as azor ahai, some hero with a flaming sword who defeated the ww to be bullshit. Craster might have discovered part of the deal which is why they let him alone. He delivered them male babies and they let Craster alone. As fucked up that is, it means that the ww can be reasoned with. SO the reason the ww are back might be that some part of the pact/peace/agreement that was made during the long night was broken somehow or they're out after Dany or something.
andythinkpad
Member
Cersei is Kim Jung Un. She will out last every other players in the game. Kim Jung Un will still be ruling North Korea when you have grand children.
Long Live the Queen!
BreezyLimbo
Banned
If the Night King has an undead dragon
and if the mythology of him is true
I would say that everyone loses.
After all, didn't GRRM say that none of the spin offs for Game of Thrones NOT take place after Song of Fire and Ice? That spells 'DOOM' for me.
and if the mythology of him is true
I would say that everyone loses.
After all, didn't GRRM say that none of the spin offs for Game of Thrones NOT take place after Song of Fire and Ice? That spells 'DOOM' for me.
I'm still going with the wild theory that the White Walkers are the unsung heroes and the Lord of Light is the real threat to everyone.
Then they've not devoted enough screen time to someone who only does occasionally effective blood sacrifices and resurrections from another plane of existence.
The Artisan
Member
GRRM didn't say the ending would be disastrous. and if one of the spinoffs took place after asoiaf then it would technically be not just a spinoff but a sequel also.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
eh
but there could be a spinoff that takes place after it, and it wouldn't necessarily be a sequel
Just like how the spin offs take place before ASoFaI aren't prequels even though they take place before GoT.
The Artisan
Member
there will be an
cameo. i wish there could be a weeknd cameo too. maybe next season.
ed sheeran
yeah you have a point. I guess if they start divulging in different storylines from all of the OG main characters. but the thing is the ending is not going to be 100% disastrous. there's going to be at least a glimmer of hope. i think that's one way to describe bittersweet
baddvision
Member
july 16, can't wait, but not gonna get hyped because i know i'll be disappointed. all i want to see is the white walker slaughter EVERYONE!!!
The Artisan
Member
wasn't it implied that
he knows
PrimetimeKnight
Member
I hope you are right even though we are more than likely in the minority of not loving Dany. Her being popular still baffles me.
Pfft please, the cool thing on the internet is to hate on Dany, you guys are hardly alone. The funny thing is that most can't really explain why they hate her beyond "she annoys me".
a Master Ninja
Member
But her
To me it is just the immature attitude, motivation is strange to me and she kind of serendipitously fell into all this power. Really she just seems crazy, who would want the throne when you have no power and know nothing about the land and politics over seas? So is she just obsessed with power(crazy)? Believes she is owed it(crazy) or ..what? At least with Cersei you know what was motivating her, her family and with John, his loyalty.
White Walker Cersei. She becomes the new Night's Queen.
soundscream
Member
Its implied that he doesnt buy Roberts version of the story, not that Ned isnt Johns father.
He might know but we're not sure.
Edit: Also why are you spoiler tagging that?
lastplayed
Member
So she'll warm up a few degrees?
pretty done
Member
Her storyline has been awful and boring for six seasons. That's reason enough to hate her.
Not even Jorah and Barristan could fix that shit. They wrote her storyline so bad that the best knight in Westeros got killed by some little bitches wearing towels and masks. D&D at their finest.
Im not going to lie, that was probably one of the most disappointing things to happen in this story to me. I was so stoked that the greatest swordsman was some old dude. I was totally looking forward to him doing some awesome heroics like slaying a hundred men or anything, but nope. Get fucked by randos
Same. Dany is smug and is played by a way worse actress. Also her character has been boring for the past 6 seasons.
do not want
That is the thing, she is all of those things, but she isn't particularly more flawed than the rest of the characters, they are all pretty horrible, even their more sanitized show versions, except Jon I guess. Of course she wants the throne, she had absolutely nothing most of her life except for that claim, the motivation is pretty straightforward.
This so hyperbolic lol
miller.skippins
Banned
you should have known about 'hero worship' doesn't work in the world of westeros though. Seasons after seasons, the books and show have reminded you........this ain't lord of the rings or wheel of time. All men must die, especially heroes in the world of westeros.
Right but then she is just basically this kid who wants power and fumbles around till she got a huge army and some Dragons. It just feels like a brat getting everything they want in an impossibly rough world.
She legit got that army, the way she took over Astapor and gained the unsullied was brilliant.
The way she got all dorhraki was lame though, that I agree, I feel D&D have only rough sketches of how that is going to actually play in the books and they really don't have the talent to make it believable or at least coherent.
xxMaximusxx
Banned
Just finished watching Season 1 - Current for the second time. This time with my wife. So glad I watched it a second time because there were so many things I didn't catch the first go around. The show is so damn good
It's like the myth that Ned beat Ser Arthur Dayne, when he was stabbed in the back. The books and show have a lot to say about mythologizing.
ColdDeckEd
Member
If anyone is going to join up with Cersi it's littlefinger and the vale.
do you have a link to the leak by any chance? I don't mind taking a look at it, last season's leak was legit
SolidChamp
Banned
Look to your sins, Raven. For the night is dark and full of terrors.
The Artisan
Member
the reason i'm spoiler tagging it is coz it's super strict on here about Thrones. I didn't start watching until after season 6 premiered last year, I saw a coworker, hardcore fan lurking the thread lol but I just remember seeing the warnings in the OP. I got banned last year once even with spoiler tags on, in the Walking Dead thread. The penalty in Thrones must be much worse.
I still think that there's only one way to redeem Dany in both the show and the books and that is to make her a villain. I mean, after all she is an outside invader of a family that fucked up the entire continent the last time they were in power and she has dragons. It would be fun to see the entirety of Westeros band together against her. If you think about it, it's basically the same as when the Mongols came to Europe.
Not that that's going to happen in the show, but I can dream.
The Artisan
Member
can melisandre or any other red priestess use dark magic to give the Unsullied their balls back
Yes, exactly. That is why when someone referred to her character as more crazed in the novels it got me excited. Hopefully something like that plays out, though it is a stretch.
mercenar1e
Member
looks like melisandre is in the service of Daenerys Targaryen and at 0:59 you can see Tyrion Lannister leading both Jon Snow and Davos to meet her.
miller.skippins
Banned
no..but they can give grey-worm boobs..
Obliterator
Member
I've looked at zero leaks for this or next season but I feel pretty confident
. It's just seemed far too obvious from the get go that she is the "future ruler of Westeros" and not to mention GRRM referred to her as a conqueror and then himself said "I don't like conquerors".
I think she lives through Season 7 but dies in the end of Season 8.
Danny is going to die
I think she lives through Season 7 but dies in the end of Season 8.
shira
Member
That reminds me is the Cat Stark actress in the next 2 seasons?