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BioWare doing anything and everything to keep players logging in to SW:TOR
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YuriLowell
Member
They will adopt the wow model soon.
F2P until level 20.
F2P until level 20.
Synth_floyd
Banned
Why don't they just make it a fun game?
RPGCrazied
Member
Please? I'd play if it became this. I can't pay for more than one MMO right now, but I do want to play it though.
have you read the article? I have read it and I can't see how you came to this conclusion.
The Elite
BOSS
I did for a month.
I've come to terms with the fact that the only MMO's I like are fantasy based ones. Even then, I probably won't play them for more than a couple of months.
please. it's called SPIN
I think it's a matter of time. They had 2 games in a row which dissapointed their core fanbase and they failed to to widen their audience enough to stop caring about their core fans.
It's not really selective. Going by that other thread, they basically gave a free month subscription to anyone who remotely played the game. So while it stemmed the tide of cancellations to another fiscal quarter, the fact those gamers aren't actually logging in and playing means when that freebie expires, there's a good chance they will cancel it.
SUPARSTARX
Member
This game wasn't fun in beta. They should spent more budgeting and planning for real content, not voice acting.
The Elite
BOSS
It looks and feels exactly like Star Wars from the perspective of some bloke carrying out a bunch of tasks and collecting rewards.
ScreenSplitter
Member
Should've made KOTOR 3 fool.
Fudgepuppy
Banned
Mass Effect 3 nor Dragon Age 2 were commercial failures.
I got an email saying if I log back in I get an entire month for free. lol, they fucked up. The game does have some awesome moments but they are spread over 200 hours and in the end, it ends up being better than WoW at some things, worse at others, and that's not enough.
They shouldn't have copied WoW. They should have gone for something else.
Dragon Age 2 sold like shit.
They shouldn't have copied WoW. They should have gone for something else.
Dragon Age 2 sold like shit.
Goro Majima
Kitty Genovese Member
I don't exactly remember a huge wealth of content in WoW this far into release other than dying a million times in Molten Core with 39 other people.
I suppose it wasn't as huge of a problem back when because WoW was a lot of people's first MMO of this style so people were still learning. WoW definitely has a significant competitive advantage having 7 years of tweaks, patches, and expansions for content.
I suppose it wasn't as huge of a problem back when because WoW was a lot of people's first MMO of this style so people were still learning. WoW definitely has a significant competitive advantage having 7 years of tweaks, patches, and expansions for content.
This
Game crashes and burns at 50 when the class story line ends. Could have just made a great single player or limited coop game
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
I had a lot of fun playing. Too much came out at the same time though.
VindictiveGnome
Member
I enjoyed the game on a free weekend a few weeks back. Every five minutes I asked myself, "Why is this a MMO?!" The game would make more sense as a singleplayer game. So, I will never buy it. Not worth it to me.
Hari Seldon
Member
It doesn't really make sense to play the game once you finish it at 50. This is truly an MMO that you finish. Everything after the story line is simply for loot grinders. Bleh on that shit. Loot grinding is so 2006.
Oh boy this thread again.
http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/04/19/analyst-says-swtor-subs-peaked-at-1-7-million-now-declining/
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/107477-Star-Wars-The-Old-Republic-Profitable-With-500-000-Subs
The only problem is that they launched too many severs (because people were demanding them). They just need to merge severs and everything will be fine.
http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/04/19/analyst-says-swtor-subs-peaked-at-1-7-million-now-declining/
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/107477-Star-Wars-The-Old-Republic-Profitable-With-500-000-Subs
The only problem is that they launched too many severs (because people were demanding them). They just need to merge severs and everything will be fine.
Hari Seldon
Member
This game doesn't even need to be F2P. You can max a character in a month and never pay a subscription. You have seen all that is worth seeing and spent a lot more hours than any normal single player game doing it.
kingkaiser
Member
anything and everything so, does this mean there will be ingame romances with wookiees and ewoks available soon?
I'm playing Star Trek Online off and on. I've spent around $40 in real money total, and I dont feel that obligation to play in order to justify the subscription. I can stop playing for a month and sign back in, no worries. Or just quit and not have to worry about canceling.
EDIT: Most importantly, I can download and try the game for free to see if I'll like it, then pay what I want to have the experience I want.
Offering less then Star Wars Galaxies was a mistake I think. It's fair that the two are compared I think. There were reasons why that game died and they are known. Trying to be like WoW was a big one and Bioware jumped into that side of the pool head first from day one. However without a good number of things that WoW did well. Not even the soloing progression is as good. It's actually worse and less entertaining. Challenging encounters (Strong and Elites) should be there for groups, not soloing. That's part the point of being able to solo.
My issue with the game, something I felt even before buying (only because I found it cheap), is that this really was a single player game that they tried to stretch into a MMO and it doesn't work, at least after a while.
I'm not surprised at all if subs are dropping quickly. Between design and them launching with to many servers and then refusing to merge them after many that bought the game didn't stay after the free month (always happens) thus giving those on those servers more reason not to play this was alway going to happen.
I like the era TOR takes place in. The problem is that I don't think it lends itself well to a MMO game. Single player RPGs...yes. That is why Knights of the Old Republic worked out well. It was more focused. SWG worked because there was so much to pull from. There were settings and characters (not just the aliens races) that were easily recognizable if you watched the movies or even read the books and comics or played the other games that came out around the time. The Sith Empire era is still being built and isn't as well known and I doubt it ever will be. There is less of a Star Wars feel to it because it isn't the Star Wars people are familiar with once you get past the visual layer.
My issue with the game, something I felt even before buying (only because I found it cheap), is that this really was a single player game that they tried to stretch into a MMO and it doesn't work, at least after a while.
I'm not surprised at all if subs are dropping quickly. Between design and them launching with to many servers and then refusing to merge them after many that bought the game didn't stay after the free month (always happens) thus giving those on those servers more reason not to play this was alway going to happen.
I like the era TOR takes place in. The problem is that I don't think it lends itself well to a MMO game. Single player RPGs...yes. That is why Knights of the Old Republic worked out well. It was more focused. SWG worked because there was so much to pull from. There were settings and characters (not just the aliens races) that were easily recognizable if you watched the movies or even read the books and comics or played the other games that came out around the time. The Sith Empire era is still being built and isn't as well known and I doubt it ever will be. There is less of a Star Wars feel to it because it isn't the Star Wars people are familiar with once you get past the visual layer.
Dragon Age II was a commercial failure and jeopardized the future of the franchise. It sold less than DA:O, they cancelled the expansion which was already announced and they cancelled the ultimate edition (which DA:O had btw) because "retailers had no interest".
Mass Effect 3 pissed a lot of people by its ending and this is at least half of its audience. 54% of players imported their saves from ME1 in the first three days after ME2 release and the game had slightly higher completion rates. That means that all these people have completed ME2, imported their saves in ME3 and most likely completed it. According to various surveys more than 80% are dissapointed in ME3 ending. The game also had face import bug for a month. More than 83% of people made custom Shepard. So there are a lot of pissed customers. And this might affect future sales.
WTF? Welcome to MMOs!
fizzelopeguss
Banned
I'm the same, but with world of tanks.