Oh man...I was already expecting Wish Upon to be crap, but WOW. That's in its own tier of awfulness.
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Wkd BO 0714-1617 - Audiences go Ape, Sick of Spider-man and Wonder Woman (finally)?
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PhoncipleBone
Banned
The shit was not about total gross. It was more an exclamation at the realization of ASM2 having a slightly better hold after the first weekend. Something I didn't even think about.
Kind of like saying in a thread last month, "Shit. A superhero film having sub 40% weekend drops?!"
Some people had completely unrealistic expectations of a billion dollar Spider-Man movie, which weren't based in any reality.
milanbaros
Member?
This is all about reestablishing spider-man almost like Batman Begins. Batman was the biggest superhero at the BO but its reputation was damaged.
The three primary goals for Sony must have been to wash out the bad taste of ASM2, tighten the budget and reverse the BO trajectory of the series.
They have done all 3.
Time for Sony to push the panic button and make that Spider-verse movie with Holland, Maguire, and Garfield.
Nice!
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
You guys are right. The fuck was I thinking? lol
Agree. I feel like Dr. Strange domestic numbers would be huge for Panther, it sure as hell isn't hitting Wonder Woman numbers.
Alex_Mexico
Member
Well I'm astonished! After SMH's great opening (and bigger that WW's) I could've sworn it was dead set on beating WW what with his known popularity, Tony Stark's in it, etc.
Holy shit. And to think it took WB this fucking long to make a movie out of this iconic character. But noooo, make way for shitty Batman movies, Green Lanterns, Catwomen, and three different Supermen (not to mention that fucking unknowns like Ant Man and Guardians of the Galaxy got a chance before WW even).
Sibersk Esto
Banned
With Spider-Man appearing in the next two Avengers films maybe they should hold off on another solo Spidey movie for awhile.
Right but even that comparison doesn't really matter.
ASM2 made $92m in its opening weekend, Homecoming made $117m. ASM2's second weekend competition was an R-rated comedy. Homecoming's was a PG-13 summer action film.
AHA-Lambda
Member
I wonder if part of the reaction to Spiderman is due to it being a younger interpretation of the character?
Alex_Mexico
Member
When did you know? Just because the Friday to Friday % was a steeper decline for SMH that's enough to know WW will outperform the entire run of Spider-Man even after SMH had a significantly higher OW?
broncobuster
Banned
Important thing about Wonder Woman isn't simply that it's the first (meaningful) superheroine film, but the themes and message resonate with what's going on in the country. Reading other threads, you see some implying that Wonder Woman is only successful because it's a female superhero movie, which to ignore the ugliness of those remarks, wouldn't have taken it this far. By coincidence Wonder Woman came at the right time.
So it'll be interesting to see if Black Panther can capture that aspect of playing to our times. I'm loving everything I hear about the story, and I can imagine it being relevant depending on how things go down in the next couple months. It's wait and see.
Homecoming 2 is the first movie after Avengers 4. Spidey is going to be used as the springboard for the (likely) post-RDJ MCU.
Obliterator
Member
Super early prediction is I think BP does around $250m domestic
Damn. Here I thought it would get left behind.
Razgriz-Specter
Member
It is actually somewhat comparable in the US at least.
Inflation + 3D upcharge put Avengers ahead.
TDK still above it though.
Kenzodielocke
Banned
I agree with this. I think it will also have a relativey weak international performance akin to Wonder Woman.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
Godspeed Spider-Man (Homecoming sequel).
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Super early overreaction is that shit is way too low man WTF
I knew on the first Friday after we got the Thursday previews, around the time that Deadline was giving us the Friday matinee report. You didn't have to wait until this weekend.
Wonder Woman's run hasn't happened in 30 years. Spider-man would have had to open to $150M to have a decent shot at topping Wonder Woman domestically.
DecoReturns
Member
Wonder Woman is gonna be front and center a lot now right? That would be cool.
Obliterator
Member
We'll see. If its good I think $300 million is doable.
250m would put it above Doctor Strange, which did pretty damn well for an Origin flick in its own right.
I could be underestimating the Civil War bump though since people are already familiar with the character
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
What if China really likes BP?
PanSexual_Peacock
Member
Black People?
If DC is smart.
Black Panther 2: T'Challa's Shanghai Adventure
Alex_Mexico
Member
I still can't understand how could you tell from the very first SMH Friday. That movie did way better than WW's first weekend. How could you tell from that that SMH would end up below WW? I understand being able to tell after the second weekend but not after the first.
Ant-Man did 100M in China. Anything is possible.
RastaMentality
Banned
Black Panther is the first big budget film tailored to a community that loves action films and a country that loves consuming black culture. It'll do some numbers.
Razgriz-Specter
Member
We're talking a movie set in Africa with a cast that's entirely black with two exceptions. You really think America's fucking with that in the era of MAGA?
Already happening
She is there to prevent Batman from beating up Supes.
There's no real logic to what you're saying at all.
The majority of the country is anti-MAGA.
Obliterator
Member
I think so. Most of America isn't MAGA, that's actually about 30%. Problem is people that are against those beliefs don't go out and vote.
That said its still SUPER early so I'm not gonna venture into mega breakout territory for it yet until I see some tracking. A $250m gross would only put it 9 mil behind Winter Soldier for example, so its still a very strong box office if it came into that territory
LordOfLore
Banned
Remind me how well 'Creed' did in the US?
RastaMentality
Banned
like i said, they hate us but they love our culture. so many MAGA white teens strolled into Straight Outta Compton screenings and yelled FUCK THE POLICE along with the film but still went and Trumped it up in the voting booth.
That being said, $250 mil is way too low. I'm expecting around $350 mil domestic for Black Panther.
Damn, that's a good point. Is Straight Outta Compton the closest thing we have to compare to this?
Bobby Roberts
Banned
This is a very, very specific set of superhero criteria but I see no fault in the claim.